On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 5:52 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com
wrote:
It has become a little quiet here in the last weeks so that I
really fear about the spirit and status of this community.
So what are your dreams with respect to open mobile handhelds?
What would you like as
incoming interest just by
the other products driving in more customers into the marketplace.
Oh, and did I mention that OM's the only one of the four that's
C/Posix programmable? iPhone: Obj-C, Android: Java, Palm:
HTML/AJAX/Javascript.
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Isn't this about the N-th time Palm has said that?
Rui
They've been promising forever, but this time they're out with an
actual product. A new linux-based
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every single freerunner is sold becaise 'i dont have enough time to hack on
it'
Not particularly. Hacking the freerunner takes quite a bit of setup
and tracking. More than most expected, I suspect.
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of special certificate or other means or proving I got it
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Seemingly no luck here.
T-Mobile SIM, I suppose 3G.
Still says sim missing.
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snip
I'm taking a protective role for the community in all this. IMHO the
community's what makes the OM phone interesting. I'd rather not see
well-intentioned hackers spend long
of the time.
A 480x640 screen can show a lot of information, even if it's navigated
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of one or more vector
units..
Of course, we could just look for an embedded Sony Cell :-P
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making the best performing, most
functional implementation possible. If that goal's met, *then* go
back and shove it into Xorg.
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Just fair warning here. As I don't think OM will use the Glamo in
future devices, doing the right thing isn't as critical as normal
software projects...
Doing the right this IS critical to support
, which we don't need. X ran fine on my 8mb 486.
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On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 1:20 AM, Charles-Henri Gros
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Lally Singh wrote:
Hey folks,
I'm working on getting the entire OM stack to build under
OpenSolaris (under an LX zone), and am having a problem. I'm using
Mokomakefile.
Specifically:
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I
/openssl-native_0.9.8g.bb
NOTE: Handling BitBake files: | (5436/5436) [100 %]
NOTE: Parsing finished. 0 cached, 5196 parsed, 237 skipped, 0 masked.
ERROR: Parsing errors found, exiting...
gmake: *** [openmoko-asu-image] Error 1
real2m15.427s
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172.16.1.255
ether 00:50:56:c0:00:08
vmnet1: flags=8863UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
inet 172.16.74.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 172.16.74.255
ether 00:50:56:c0:00:01
Thanks in advance!
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On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Pablo Ruiz Múzquiz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi!
I've seen some mails on this topic but I can't find any conclusive one.
There's a quick video demoing frogpad
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, wouldn't it so slow? It's a 400Mhz, btw! :P
A few of us here started with much slower desktop PCs. Like pentium-90s.
Now all we need is a symbol keyword completing keyboard for C/C++ :-)
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does OpenMoko aspire to cater to?
Hmm, didn't we just pay nearly $400 for this thing?
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) add in the screw bolts around a USB port.
And the rest of us can have all the fun hacking away with the possibilities :-)
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Any sort of warranty?
A purchasable extended warranty?
Spare parts prices?
Anything?
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Warranty depends only from the distributor.
Phone buyed from the openmoko store only have the DOA warranty (14 days).
Please if you want to know more things search the mailing list (EG:
what DOA means).
2008/8/27 Lally Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Any sort of warranty?
A purchasable extended
] wrote:
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OM said that they were deciding on something beyond DOA.
Also, Koolu doesn't offer a warranty (just the same 14/28 DOA
warranty), and they're the only place you can get a FR in north
america, so there's no help
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Hey folks,
Any ideas when the 850 10 packs will be available again?
Btw, I'm completely calling dibs on the first one for the NY group :-)
Thanks,
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Hi Lally Singh:
The warranty is also bugging me.
Is there anywhere else I could get one? Or would OM be willing to
sell an extended warranty for a bit more $$?
Our sales and marketing both are in US working
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user of the phone can use sudo to get to what they need.
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new or under-reviewed applications.
I'm glad Raster joined up w/Moko for this. What's that slider view
for (the one with three panels)? The equations, zoomed text, giant
icon, etc?
I'm guessing something goes in there, but I have no idea what.
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of forum?
Personally I see no advantages of web forums ;)
Well, it's a more reliable method to isolate threads from each other.
For example, the whole PANIC! iPhone is $200! thread is listed as a
dozen or more threads in gmail right now.
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are best done as customizations on
an expert platform. One that we hope that OM will become.
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In the mean time, ignoring the current primary demographic -- geeks --
will kill off the phone before it has a chance to become usable for
the demographic you want: consumers.
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write a lot, LOT more here,
Stroller.
If OM's going QVGA onwards, please let me know now, so I won't waste
$400 on a dead-end phone platform.
Seriously, it's 2008. If you can't do it at 640x480, get a better CPU.
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for the next 2 yrs, and in the US a contract is
pretty standard), so it really does just come down to $200 vs whatever
another phone costs.
Sheesh. We get it, we just don't care.
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worth so much by itself.
This is all in the most sincere support of OM, but what kind of friend
would I be if I didn't tell you the whole truth?
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in
VA.
Philippe
Indeed. I'm in southwest va for school, but my family's right outside
DC. A NY trip sounds fun. Maybe we can ship to NY, then a few of us
can go up to NY for a weekend of good drinking OM fun?
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a
stylus, will get patched pretty quick.
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be the
only one itching to use a GPU as a parallel coprocessor on this list.
*sigh* so far it's only CUDA (AFAIK) that's even touching mobile
devices. Man I wish we had a handspring-type connector and some
little modules for this kind of stuff.
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Am Do 5. Juni 2008 schrieb Lally Singh:
AFAIK, the AGPS allows you to upload additional information into the
onboard correlator (the CPU that does the actual location calculations
for GPS) to enhance the accuracy over
at rates of more than 40 FPS, and will support 1080p
HDMI, WSXGA+ LCD or CRT, and NTSC/PAL TV outs.
It's still ARM based, so it should work with OM. It'll run Android if
you want, and may end up with a slightly smaller phone, as it
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Excellent!! Now all we need are discussion forums.
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Kim Alvefur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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A site like that would be great if it followed something like
sourceforge.net, plus some discussion forums
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What's wrong with Eclipse? It's much more common for embedded IDE's
isn't it?
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and is looking super-nifty by
now) :)
Wednesday 07 May 2008 skrev Lally Singh:
Nah, I'd been planning on getting haskell up for OM. They already
have a basic ARM target for ghc, and there's already a haskell-GTK
mapping.
But, now that we're talking about development
ago,
it was buggier. I'd say it's pretty solid these days. And it's way
faster.
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I can tweak out the
simulator (a full running copy of the game, with rendering turned off
and an AI controlling the player).
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attention, what uses does the debug
board have? I figure it'll test pin connections, etc., but is there
any use for it for those who don't plan to directly modify the board?
I might add something onto the I2C bus later, but that's a separate
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a lot happier on maven.
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Hugo Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Just out of curiosity, would maven be completely out of the question?
Please, for the love of all that's holy, no.
I work with maven
(which is
admittedly scarce in some areas).
WiFi's useful for a lot of things.
But, 3G may get cheaper in the states. When the 3G iPhone comes out,
Apple may coerce ATT to provide cheap data for it. Perhaps within
the existing $20 data plan.
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make sense to make any such security system a user-installable
package. That way they know what they're getting into.
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that it's trivial.
also this research paper:
Footstep identification from pressure signals using hidden markov models
http://www.ee.oulu.fi/mvg/files/pdf/pdf_459.pdf
You folks are freaking me out. Outside of tracking people, any other
ideas for why you'd want this?
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On Sunday 30 March 2008 04:56:53 Lally Singh wrote:
Thinking of something like:
http://www.eurotech.com/EN/products.aspx?pg=Zypad%20WL%201000pp=Wearable%2
0Computerspc=411pid=260
I'd love a little wrist mount
Thinking of something like:
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I'd love a little wrist mount for an openmoko phone. It'd be a
wonderful place to mount it in GPS mode when on a motorcycle.
Even otherwise, a great way to quickly look
thanks
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Any thoughts?
watch less star trek
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. But the vendor isn't
quite ready to add value to their products like that.
*sigh* It's a shame. It's too bad we can't get the openness we're
seeing out of Sun for their opensparc project :-)
... unless OM wants to go sparc anytime soon :-P
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Definite cultural problem within the open source/free software
community. People use it for both definitions of 'free', and complain
heavily over everything that isn't free (in $$). Small companies
need to account for the risks they're taking for the community in
their margins, otherwise they
more developers who were just
waiting for the project to hit their buy-in point. Open source
projects charge a price in hours worked, not dollars. Never pretend
that the former isn't easily worth as much as the latter.
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The openness is much appreciated!! The hack value of this phone is
really mind-boggling. IMHO It could become to this generation's young
hackers what the old Apple IIs and Commodores were to my generation.
As for the 6400 vs the 2443, is there any reason to prefer the 2443?
The 6400 seems
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Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 05:06:25
OM's unusual in the sense that they're asking us to do three things:
1. Invest $400-600 in them.
2. Use their device in such a personal way -- a cell phone is as much
a part of my daily setup as my shoes or wrist watch.
3. Develop on it, in our usually too-rare spare time, unpaid.
In exchange,
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Oh sheesh. Why are you trying so hard to poison this project?
Read the rest of the response. I said the proper response is please
file a bug report. Or shove it on a wishlist. Someone spent time
trying to contribute
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Don't you agree?
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Ugh.
Outside of chip firmware, what don't we have?
Also, what's the standard for consumer-level devices? I've seen some
terrible, terrible mobile Windows devices. These devices have a day
and a half of battery life, crash about that often, and have little
more than an address book, weak
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Cool, can we use it directly or need a port?
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For middleware, it looks like all that's really needed is an OM
version of Cocoa's NSNotificationCenter. IMHO I think it's a great
place to start
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On Feb 7, 2008 8:32 PM, Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
He suggested we treat any chipset with proprietary firmware as a black-
box, a circuit. He suggested we ignore the firmware inside. If the
firmware is buggy
gps receivers for a company that worked on
ionospheric/atmospheric modeling. You can usually get the raw data
you want (e.g. ephemeris frames) through a published binary protocol.
I'd look it up right now, but the manufacturer's website only has it
in windows help file format. Ew.
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better off being AJAX based. X widget
sets haven't been designed for good use over slower network links in
ages. May as well take advantage of web standards, and we can likely
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GSM providers in the states, in my area I only have T-mobile and ATT
Lally Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/30/08 10:12 PM
Any recommendations on sim vendors in the states for use with these
phones? I'd like something that'd auto-bill me like a regular phone
plan, without getting ripped off
Oh, the 128 is onboard storage. What *is* the onboard CPU RAM on this
thing? Is it just what's built onboard the CPU?
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Whoops, I meant RAM (128 mb on the current unit).
Yeah, I was afraid it was just the two. At least t-mob's
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