Freedom Redfined.

2009-06-22 Thread Steve Mosher
Community, As many of you know may 25th was my last official day at Openmoko. Since that time I have been focused on two things: First, putting my Openmoko business in order. There were several tasks that got cut off midstream by the layoff and I felt I owed it to the community to see those

Re: Freerunner's Future

2009-06-16 Thread Steve Mosher
Tully have some very good ideas on how to change the 02 case and get rid of some annoyances-- bring the screen flush with the surface, reduce the parts count. And I had a camera solution that looked promising. Write me if you decide to go down this path and I'll explain our ideas Fabian

Re: FreeRunner A6 Sale

2009-06-16 Thread Steve Mosher
The deal for 10 FR makes this even more attractive Jason Self wrote: I've been holding off on buying a FreeRunner until until it seemed sufficiently problem-free to me. $250 is a very appealing price. I just wanted to confirm my understanding that the only difference between A6 and A7 is

Re: Freerunner's Future

2009-06-10 Thread Steve Mosher
Many thanks to you Christoph, I always make a habit of returning to decisions I have played a role in to review my thinking and uncover the mistakes I may have made so that I can make new ones the next time around. ( hat tip to Werner) I like very much your idea of a multi purpose platform.

Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)

2009-06-10 Thread Steve Mosher
Hi, I have to quibble a bit here. Any PR firm, including Pat's, is at the mercy of the mouthpiece. That's me. Before they release the information they look me in the eye and ask me to vouch for the veracity. Think of them as a messenger. You hand the postman a letter professing your

Re: Freerunner's Future

2009-06-10 Thread Steve Mosher
I would offer this. The vision that Werner has, shared by a good number of us ( hat tip to Dr Schaller) is to create a process whereby the design effort can be shared collaboratively. As I look at the EE design process it is currently controlled at several points by closed proprietary systems.

Re: Help requested: SHR Screenshots

2009-06-07 Thread Steve Mosher
Good resources for a user guide... Michael Zanetti wrote: On Sunday 07 June 2009 12:00:44 Petr Vanek wrote: i am uploading it on http://scap.linuxtogo.org/ as we speak, please select what you like :) Very nice screenshots! How did you get the category bar on the bottom for

Re: Stress test of my Freerunner

2009-06-07 Thread Steve Mosher
Thanks Sven, Sorry I was not there on Monday when you visited the office. I left TPE the previous friday. Glad to hear you love you FR, keep up the good work and best of luck on your project. Sven Klomp wrote: As you already noticed from my last mail (Visit at Openmoko), I was traveling

Re: Freerunner's Future

2009-06-07 Thread Steve Mosher
Swap. Thanks. There are many options available to OM. I'm sure they all be considered Steve swap38 wrote: Steve Mosher a écrit : see inlined. Jeremy McNaughton wrote: (...) Organizing an Openmoko Foundation is something I'd really like to help with. Up till now I've

Re: Linux International and Openmoko

2009-06-07 Thread Steve Mosher
Thank you Dr. Schaller, Your suggestions, both about the business of Openmoko, and the paths forward for the company have been an inspiration to me. Not to mention your dogged determination in helping us get the buzz fix out to the community. Had we not taken your suggestions and adopted your

Re: MP3 patents (was: Freerunner's Future)

2009-06-06 Thread Steve Mosher
David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: 2009/6/5 Tim Schmidt timschm...@gmail.com: On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Steve Mosherst...@openmoko.com wrote: I am somewhat constrained in what I am able to say. On one view there is the position, held by some, that any hardware that is merely

Re: MP3 patents (was: Freerunner's Future)

2009-06-06 Thread Steve Mosher
Al Johnson wrote: On Saturday 06 June 2009, Harald Welte wrote: On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 12:26:42PM -0700, Steve Mosher wrote: I am somewhat constrained in what I am able to say. On one view there is the position, held by some, that any hardware that is merely CAPABLE of mp3 decode

Re: Openmoko Neo FreeRunner GTA02 versions A5 A6 Audio Buzz - Quality Enhancement Service

2009-06-05 Thread Steve Mosher
Max wrote: Great to hear that... Btw, where do you actually situated?... at least information about continent you're in would greatly help in estimating shipment costs :) cheers, Max. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Pat Meier

2009-06-05 Thread Steve Mosher
Christoph, I will politely ask you to retract your comments about Pat. Each and every press release issued by Openmoko was written by me and issued with my approval and Sean's approval. Pat is in charge of the mechanics of getting those releases distributed and covered by the press. As PR

Re: Freerunner's Future

2009-06-05 Thread Steve Mosher
Thanks Christoph for your clarification. I have a minor quibble with your characterization. When Openmoko started as a project in FIC, it started with a Vision. That vision was to create a open mobile phone. Its the job of marketing to message that vision to the customer. Thats what we did.

Re: MP3 patents (was: Freerunner's Future)

2009-06-05 Thread Steve Mosher
I am somewhat constrained in what I am able to say. On one view there is the position, held by some, that any hardware that is merely CAPABLE of mp3 decode is required to apply for a license. MP3 was removed from our images long ago and from the repositories. The requirements of the license

Re: Freerunner's Future

2009-06-04 Thread Steve Mosher
Thanks Jeremy for your kind words. I've copied pat meier Johnson our PR person on the thread. Like you we believe there is a great positive story here. In addition, I've copied some of the key people in the Openmoko community to get their reaction to your ideas Jeremy McNaughton wrote:

Re: Openmoko Neo FreeRunner GTA02 versions A5 A6 Audio Buzz - Quality Enhancement Service

2009-06-04 Thread Steve Mosher
Thanks Brian. Brian Fuller wrote: Hello Openmoko Community! As users of the Openmoko Neo FreeRunner GTA02 versions A5 A6, you may have experienced an audio buzz while making a phone call. Openmoko has identified the issue and upgraded the hardware to fix this issue. The GTA02

Re: a new keyboard - discuss and critique

2009-06-03 Thread Steve Mosher
I Wonder if you actually need to implement a visual triangle or if a triangular touch area would work just as well? And I wonder how tighly the patent is written around the concept of a triangle.. Perhaps shave off a tiny prtion of the tip of the triangle and you have a parallelogram... hmm

Re: a new keyboard - discuss and critique

2009-06-03 Thread Steve Mosher
Perhaps he thinks by presenting the keyboard in that way you will be more careful in where you tap your finger.. Worth a test.. but in theory I agree with you.. more dead space = more failed keypresses..im touching put nothing is happening... Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Wed, 3

Re: Tuxbrain offers Neo FreeRunner in three flavors

2009-06-03 Thread Steve Mosher
A7 is sitting at the factory waiting for orders Timo Jyrinki wrote: 2009/6/3 David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com: Devel Upgraded Version(A6+) at 259 EUR Retail Version(A7) at 299 EUR Great news! Are both A6+ and A7 available for shipment right way? Not that it would matter

Re: a new keyboard - discuss and critique

2009-06-03 Thread Steve Mosher
yes, you substitute one error for the other. the issue is the probablity of those errors and the time to correct.. no harm in testing the approach, if somebody has time on their hands Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 14:07:07 +0200 Marcel tan...@googlemail.com said:

Re: a new keyboard - discuss and critique

2009-06-03 Thread Steve Mosher
before you test you need a good theory. that way you know what data to collect. raster has a theory why it wont be better. That's a testable theory, I think. Michal Brzozowski wrote: 2009/6/3 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com but u'll hit dead space (nothing) about 50% more often than

Re: a new keyboard - discuss and critique

2009-06-03 Thread Steve Mosher
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 17:10:49 +0200 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm said: I'm amazed how much you guys can theorize about the idea before actually trying it. i theorize because hat's what i've done for decades doing code, ui etc. i sit and

Re: a new keyboard - discuss and critique

2009-06-03 Thread Steve Mosher
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:13:12 -0700 Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com said: yep. triple damages. When doing 3D graphics we NEVER looked at patents, otherwise we couldnt build shit. oh indeed. the only way to go is plead ignorance

Re: a new keyboard - discuss and critique

2009-06-03 Thread Steve Mosher
did test design for UIs in fighter aircraft. nasty business. fun if you get paid for it, but not how i'd spend my free time. So I aint volunteering. Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:08:51 -0700 Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com said: indeed. i believe its not worth

Re: Freerunner's Future

2009-06-02 Thread Steve Mosher
office, Sureda, Tuxbrain, Bearstech, and countless others. I personally want to give an extra special thanks to Steve Mosher who has taught me so much about marketing, writing, and well...life. Without his guidance, this all would have only been an idea in my notebook. I have asked Steve to lead

Re: Freerunner's Future

2009-06-02 Thread Steve Mosher
of people tried things they have never done before to keep customers happy. Steve Lon Lentz wrote: Steve, Is this going to affect OM trying to find us Americans someone to implement all of the pending hardware fixes? On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com

Re: Freerunner's Future

2009-06-02 Thread Steve Mosher
continue ? - What's the future of Open phone hardware without Openmoko Inc. ? Steve Mosher wrote: No, it will not impact the program. I just sealed the deal on that this morning! of course there are details to be worked out so watch this space. 1. we sent out instructions to all the disty

Re: Freerunner's Future

2009-06-02 Thread Steve Mosher
Hi Nelson, Thanks good to hear from you. I really enjoyed the pictures you gave me from our last time together in Taipei. Anything you can do to help will be appreciated. Steve Nelson Castillo wrote: On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com wrote: Community

Re: Debuzzing

2009-06-01 Thread Steve Mosher
Joerg, Dr. N and I have been discussing this. There is no need for the HWD fix of 1024 as there is a software fix. The hwdware fix of 1024 would require much more work than the debuzzing. Joerg recommends against it. I would agree. I can have him come on here and explain. Even if the fix were

Re: Debuzzing

2009-06-01 Thread Steve Mosher
Agreed. I've not heard about the jump in standby time, but joerg mentioned something about that ( as i recall). arne anka wrote: as there is a software fix. imo it is still a workaround, not a fix. and standby time jumping up 25% looks a lot to me.

Re: Debuzzing

2009-06-01 Thread Steve Mosher
, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com wrote: Joerg, Dr. N and I have been discussing this. There is no need for the HWD fix of 1024 as there is a software fix. The hwdware fix of 1024 would require much more work than the debuzzing. Joerg recommends against it. I would agree. I

Re: Debuzzing

2009-06-01 Thread Steve Mosher
See inline below Ori Pessach wrote: On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com wrote: Getting a focused effort in the US has been problematic. The reason is simple. The vast majority of sales in the US have been through the OM store. The disty, therefore, don't have

Re: Debuzzing

2009-06-01 Thread Steve Mosher
YA, When I first started putting the program together I asked Tony Tu to get me a test protocal for incoming. Engineering ( and others) then pointed out that the Buzz problem was conditioned by enviromental factors that we CND ( could not duplicate) such that a phone with Buzz in the feild

Re: Buzz is Fixed

2009-05-27 Thread Steve Mosher
I want to take some time to thank a bunch of people for this. Joerg. People have no idea how persistent he was in insisting that he had a fix for this and then writing an SOP. Tony Tu. While he worked at OM Tony helped me get the fix verified. All the volunteers who put their own FR under

Re: Visit at Openmoko

2009-05-26 Thread Steve Mosher
Thanks, As you can well imagine Sean and I are working on an official statement. This time around a lot more is involved than just us writing post so please be patient. This week is pretty hectic for me and Sean, I'm travelling out of town today ( SF) and then I'll be back for an

Re: Debuzzing

2009-05-23 Thread Steve Mosher
When OM throws a party nobody leaves with a buzz. Yorick Moko wrote: thanks for the update! i'm gonna miss the buzz ;-) On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org wrote: Am 23.05.2009 um 14:04 schrieb Yorick Moko: any news on the repair?

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-12 Thread Steve Mosher
roguem...@roguewrt.org wrote: On 8/05/2009 6:58 PM, David Garabana Barro wrote: Some time ago, I have recommended several friends*NOT* to buy a Freerunner, because software was not ready. It was a great toy for me, but my friends would get desperated. I think it's being open minded (and

Re: It Ain't funny [Was: Ain't it funny..]

2009-05-12 Thread Steve Mosher
ya I got the mail. I'm in TPE. It's on my todo list. Watch for a mail. Dale Maggee wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Now you're just trying to confuse me... ;) ...I haven't received any reply to my off-list email yet... I presume you're looking into it? Steve Mosher

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-12 Thread Steve Mosher
roguem...@roguewrt.org wrote: On 12/05/2009 10:39 PM, Steve Mosher wrote: Well, you are assuming facts not in evidence. Dale's case is somewhat special. You're right and I don't purport to be in possession of all the facts. The 9 months for which he had the device in his

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

2009-05-11 Thread Steve Mosher
Thanks Risto, I just finished my review on Sunday and made many of the same points. The good news is that (after the long boot) it was very usable as a phone. There were of course some annoyances and somethings in the IU paradigm that took some getting use to Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Hi!

Re: It Ain't funny [Was: Ain't it funny..]

2009-05-11 Thread Steve Mosher
Best of all is to avoid hyperbolic claims of totalitarian behavior all together, since the claim, if true, will never see the light of pixels, and if false, is self refuting. That's my rhetorical observation for the day. Dale Maggee wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-08 Thread Steve Mosher
- ---END EMAIL THREAD--- Steve Mosher wrote: Hi Dale. I got a note from the people who handle these issues. In looking through our store records we were unable to find any order from you at openmoko.com. That doesn't mean you haven't purchased a phone. If you could, provide

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-07 Thread Steve Mosher
Hi Dale. I got a note from the people who handle these issues. In looking through our store records we were unable to find any order from you at openmoko.com. That doesn't mean you haven't purchased a phone. If you could, provide me with the details of your purchase. Who you

Re: Will my phone buzz?

2009-05-05 Thread Steve Mosher
If you remove the two tork screws and remove the front cover you will se the board rev. In anycase if you have A5 or A6 you are susceptible to the buzz issue. If you bought 900 and dont experience it it is likely that you are communicating on 1900 which doesnt, according to anecdotal reports,

Re: bluetooth spam

2009-04-25 Thread Steve Mosher
http://www.opkg.org/package_61.html Alexey Feldgendler wrote: On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:44:32 +0200, Tilman Baumann til...@baumann.name wrote: Hehe, I once did this on a ICE train. I was bored so I scanned for bluetooth devices. And then send them text files. O group of girls answered.

Re: SF/CA BuzzFix Party (Was Re:US Buzz/GPS Fix)

2009-04-25 Thread Steve Mosher
just need to find a guy with the skills Jason Abele wrote: I am also in the SF Bay area (Menlo Park) and would gladly catch a buzz fix party anywhere in the Bay Area. Its awfully short notice and I don't have the parts or equipment on hand to do the fix, but I will be at the

Re: bluetooth spam

2009-04-22 Thread Steve Mosher
Hmm.. The possibilities are endless. I imagine, however, that thre might be some media assets, like personal photos, that one would not want to spam around the club... or maybe not..Self promotion at its best. Carlo Minucci wrote: Evgeny ha scritto: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 4:20 PM, The

Re: [om2009] - send SMS GUI logic

2009-04-15 Thread Steve Mosher
My samsung allows both methods. So when I want to send a broadcast, like merry christmas I do the following. 1. Create new message. 2. enter msg. 3. Hit options 4. add people I want to braodcast to.. Then I get to browse through my contects checking off people... 5. hit send. Or I just

Re: Slashdotted

2009-04-12 Thread Steve Mosher
arne anka wrote: development has stopped. period. There other phones in the pipeline Three variants of GTA02, 2 entirely new concepts aimed at different target markets. Not smart phones, but phones nontheless. the first time i hear that. even the statements quotes so

Re: Slashdotted

2009-04-12 Thread Steve Mosher
arne anka wrote: development has stopped. period. The misrepresentation - which you seem to think is not a misrepresentation - in the news coverage is that they're saying development of open phones at OM has been cancelled, while all that's been decided is to cancel the GTA03, not

Re: Time for press release published on w.om.c ?

2009-04-11 Thread Steve Mosher
we are on it. If you have specific criticism please vent away or constructive suggestions as well. PR was pretty busy getting corrections done all over the place so now they focus on getting the press stuff up to date. Olivier Berger wrote: Hi. I think www.openmoko.com deserves some updates

Re: Slashdotted

2009-04-11 Thread Steve Mosher
arne anka wrote: phone development means gta03 -- and that indeed stopped. it wrong, surely a lot of other people will get it wrong too. No, phone development doesn't mean GTA03. Openmoko can release a device which is not a successor to the GTA02. i never said, it has to be a successor

Re: Slashdotted

2009-04-07 Thread Steve Mosher
If it bleeds, it leeds. I'll alert PR to these publications and we will get the story right. Until then the community should just pound on them. An Army of Davids. Comment, link to seans video, link to my Video. Steve Michael Tansella wrote: On Tuesday 07 April 2009 00:24:34 Steve Mosher

Re: GTA03 or 3d7k?

2009-04-07 Thread Steve Mosher
Ah good question. I'll explain below. One of the final twists in the GTA03 history Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com writes: Come on in the waters fine. Can't resist to ask, what's the deal with the name? ;-) In Mar 2 all references to GTA03 were changed[1

Re: Slashdotted

2009-04-07 Thread Steve Mosher
Fernando Martins wrote: Steve Mosher wrote: And you are right the community can help: 1. get code upstream. That decreases our cost to maintain. 2. Stay involved or get involved, either by coding, testing, or spreading the word. you get the idea. My biggest itch was the frustration

Re: Slashdotted

2009-04-07 Thread Steve Mosher
Like I said, if it bleeds, it leeds. When you have a major announcement such as seans you have two options: 1. Try to control the press response beforehand. Brief the press beforehand, do a press release, release an official statement on the same day as the event. A controlled blast. 2. Drop

Re: Slashdotted

2009-04-07 Thread Steve Mosher
ri...@happyleptic.org wrote: When Nokia annouces that the n810 is discontinued and will have no more support in the future, nobody gives a damn. Why ? because nokia make dozens of phones and are not stopping ALL of them. when a company stops its entire development of new products in a

Re: Slashdotted

2009-04-07 Thread Steve Mosher
Shawn Rutledge wrote: On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 5:34 AM, ri...@happyleptic.org wrote: Make a useable phone with inovative apps is what is needed to get new customers, not a fancy 3d chip nor a better screen or camera or whatever. For the hardware is already way much better than the software,

Re: Leather case for Neo freeruner now 29 Euros

2009-04-07 Thread Steve Mosher
Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Tuesday, April 07, 2009 a las 01:15:52PM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez escribió: HI well topic says all Now the Openmoko leather case is at 29 Euros Vat included + Shipping costs at www.truxbrain.com/shop Yes, the topic says at all: NOW for 29 Euros

Re: how long freerunner will be produce ?

2009-04-07 Thread Steve Mosher
Hi. Mickael LABROUSSE wrote: Hi everyone, I work in a french compagny making up a produce based on the freerunner. Sorry to open a new thread about this but I read everywhere on the Internet that Openmoko cancels gta03 and sometimes news talk about gta02 too !! GTA03 was postponed.

Re: how long freerunner will be produce ?

2009-04-07 Thread Steve Mosher
. Thanks, Mickael. Steve Mosher a écrit : Hi. Mickael LABROUSSE wrote: Hi everyone, I work in a french compagny making up a produce based on the freerunner. Sorry to open a new thread about this but I read everywhere on the Internet that Openmoko cancels gta03 and sometimes news talk

Re: Just Got Buzz Fixed

2009-04-06 Thread Steve Mosher
not so weird. The buzz is believed to be somewhat dependent on the frequency you are on. 900 is worst, 1800, less so, 1900 reported as ok. Do you have an 850 phone or 900? The Digital Pioneer wrote: Buzz was interesting for me... I have never had trouble with it before, but then I took a trip

Re: Slashdotted

2009-04-06 Thread Steve Mosher
) upload that video, but I think it could be a good idea to rename it so it includes openmoko on the title. It wuld be easier to find for those who are not on the list, but have heard about OM. Kosa - Un mundo mejor es posible - Steve Mosher escribió: Thanks Anthony. For the sake

Re: Slashdotted

2009-04-06 Thread Steve Mosher
Hey tony! 好朋友 Glad to see your comments. Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu) wrote: Steve Mosher wrote: Good comments All. Let me inline some answers/explanations. Lothar Behrens wrote: Hi, I use this analogy. You write your code in a series of units. you unit test them. Then you do your first

Re: Slashdotted

2009-04-06 Thread Steve Mosher
Thanks Risto. It really is a function of the sharpened focus of the company. In my particular case, if we back up to the september october time frame I was working on doing the requirements and specs for the GTA04 with joerg, looking at the glamoetctomy with werner, Doing FR stuff and project

Re: Slashdotted

2009-04-06 Thread Steve Mosher
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d8Tsvj2TdQ Hair straightener required. Risto H. Kurppa wrote: I'm just amazed to see this discussion, that actually someone from Openmoko (=Steve) is responding to the ideas, sharing their/his thoughts. As someone pointed already out earlier in this thread -

Re: Camera module as back case (was Re: Slashdotted)

2009-04-06 Thread Steve Mosher
:) 2009/4/6 Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d8Tsvj2TdQ Hair straightener required. Risto H. Kurppa wrote: I'm just amazed to see this discussion, that actually someone from Openmoko (=Steve) is responding to the ideas, sharing their/his thoughts. As someone pointed

Re: CAD files and gCAD3D

2009-04-06 Thread Steve Mosher
Maybe Tully knows Lothar Behrens wrote: Hi, I have just seen on the page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/CAD_models that gCAD3D could be used for previewing the CAD models. Does it support boolean operations to derive other housings? Is this tool propably usable to export in other

Re: Slashdotted

2009-04-06 Thread Steve Mosher
I have an official statement out. I'll get on the corrections asap steve. community! chime in. on these sites Lalo Martins wrote: This is getting ridiculous. Now the misreportage is spreading through the blogosphere: http://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=4214 which was

Re: Slashdotted

2009-04-06 Thread Steve Mosher
production is not stopping. Sean said explicitly in his Bern address that there is ample inventory and I'll add that the production continues. In fact, one of the consequences of suspending GTA03 is that we can focus on two things ( FreeRunner and Project B) as opposed to three things. Let's

Re: Slashdotted

2009-04-06 Thread Steve Mosher
Hi bob. A couple points below. thanks for your continued interest. robert lazarski wrote: On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Lalo Martins lalo.mart...@gmail.com wrote: quoth arne anka as of Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:01:11 +0200: This is getting ridiculous. Now the misreportage is spreading through

Re: Slashdotted

2009-04-06 Thread Steve Mosher
Fernando Martins wrote: Steve Mosher wrote: Thanks Anthony. For the sake of everyone who hasnt read my posts on this or seen the video of seans speech. Let me say that your position is the one we settled on. spend our resources on the FR and then fund a modest project: project B. Put

Re: Slashdotted

2009-04-06 Thread Steve Mosher
Gerald A wrote: Hi all, I originally wrote Lothar in private, and asked for his permission to repost to the list. There have been a few replies in the meantime, but there were some good points here. Now, I'm not a hardware guy, so take my input with a grain of salt, but I have been

GTA03 List now open at openmoko.org

2009-04-06 Thread Steve Mosher
Come on in the waters fine. Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Slashdotted

2009-04-06 Thread Steve Mosher
pick the possible everytime. so would you. Thanks for your emails on the subject so far, Joseph 2009/4/7 Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com: Gerald A wrote: Hi all, I originally wrote Lothar in private, and asked for his permission to repost to the list. There have been a few replies

Re: Slashdotted

2009-04-05 Thread Steve Mosher
Good comments All. Let me inline some answers/explanations. Lothar Behrens wrote: Hi, I am mostly reading and sometime writing here. If it was useful or useless - I don't know. But anyway. Let me arse around with some stupid ideas :-) What is a open phone? Is it only open source

Re: Slashdotted

2009-04-05 Thread Steve Mosher
Dr. N We are thinking down similar paths. See my other other posts. I will check out the satilite site. My sense is, without even looking, that a fair number of people working on the project probably had some aerospace background and were well schooled in the process of requirements

Re: Slashdotted

2009-04-05 Thread Steve Mosher
as always, ditto, what joerg said. I could release the GTA03 design files, but there value is limited. If the design were verified (DVT) and made ready for production (PVT) then the design files would only have value for somebody who wanted to quickly produce PCBs. As a resource for a design mod

Re: Buying a Freerunner

2009-04-05 Thread Steve Mosher
not shipping with buzz fix yet. but im slowly pushing forward Joerg Reisenweber wrote: Am So 5. April 2009 schrieb Gunnar AAstrand Grimnes: 1. The phone selling for 299 on the main site, do es it have the bug fix? or might I still have that problem? From Steve recent email about

Re: Slashdotted

2009-04-05 Thread Steve Mosher
Thanks Lothar. I think Dr N and I will have some fruitful discussions on how to start this. I'll contribute my time and experience as I am able to to get this going. Lothar Behrens wrote: Am 05.04.2009 um 21:00 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: Hi Lothar, Jörg, Sean, Steve, and all

Re: Slashdotted

2009-04-05 Thread Steve Mosher
! - Gunnar Steve Mosher wrote: Good comments All. Let me inline some answers/explanations. Lothar Behrens wrote: Hi, I am mostly reading and sometime writing here. If it was useful or useless - I don't know. But anyway. Let me arse around with some stupid ideas :-) What is a open phone

Re: Buying a Freerunner

2009-04-05 Thread Steve Mosher
if that's relevant. -- Marcel Am Monday 06 April 2009 00:57:33 schrieb Steve Mosher: not shipping with buzz fix yet. but im slowly pushing forward Joerg Reisenweber wrote: Am So 5. April 2009 schrieb Gunnar AAstrand Grimnes: 1. The phone selling for 299 on the main site, do es it have

Re: Slashdotted

2009-04-05 Thread Steve Mosher
folders with 320 mails each when I came back which is nothing compared to your 1800 mails... :) -- Marcel Am Monday 06 April 2009 01:08:24 schrieb Steve Mosher: thanks. During march I got so effin buried in other stuff that my community posting went to hell. I sat there looking at my

Re: Slashdotted

2009-04-05 Thread Steve Mosher
on getting the list set up. Lothar Behrens wrote: Am 05.04.2009 um 23:21 schrieb Steve Mosher: Good comments All. Let me inline some answers/explanations. Snip My education in 1987 till 1990, was electronics engineering. I do not any more practice in that area. So I stuck in some

Re: Slashdotted

2009-04-05 Thread Steve Mosher
Thanks Anthony. For the sake of everyone who hasnt read my posts on this or seen the video of seans speech. Let me say that your position is the one we settled on. spend our resources on the FR and then fund a modest project: project B. Put the GTA03 on hold and find a way to involve the

Re: Slashdotted

2009-04-05 Thread Steve Mosher
Hi buddy! Werner Almesberger wrote: Steve Mosher wrote: hardware world. I'll use another metaphor. Building hardware requires a waterfall design process, at least in my experience. In the software world, outside of DOD and NASA, we'd be hard pressed to find projects that followed a strict

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

2009-04-04 Thread Steve Mosher
See below Arigead wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Mosher wrote: Since I worked on the presentation with Sean for the days he was here in SF, let me give you my view and sean's view. That way we won't get into some version of the telephone game. Sean discussed

Re: The future of the Neo Freerunner

2009-04-04 Thread Steve Mosher
read my posts. I should have something official done this weekend. I thought id get it done tonight, but lots of other things to do. So, read my posts here. and ask me for clrification. Thomas Bumberger wrote: As Openmoko sacked/was left by 50% of its developers and halted the development of

Re: Bying a Freerunner with the buzz-fix on it

2009-04-04 Thread Steve Mosher
Cédric Berger wrote: On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 02:09, Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com wrote: so much for my schedules. There were some issues with ALSA states. so manufacturing got put on hold. then Chinese new year. I'll have an update shortly on A7. So as I understand these were issues

Re: Bying a Freerunner with the buzz-fix on it

2009-04-04 Thread Steve Mosher
your welcomed. I really got behind on my list mail. Now that I'm back down to zero unread mails on the community its easier for me to respond in a timely fashion. Cédric Berger wrote: Thanks for all these precisions ! Good to have more infos... 2009/4/4 Steve Mosher st

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

2009-04-04 Thread Steve Mosher
Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote: On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 11:27:02PM -0700, Steve Mosher wrote: The GTA03 as a design had a recamping bug. it kept changing. and changes of course, are perceived as easy. after all, hardware is just like software.. I won't go through all the iterations of GTA03

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

2009-04-03 Thread Steve Mosher
talking about schedule certainty down to the week if not day. Right now as a placeholder date for the announcement I have a day selected in august. On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com wrote: Since I worked on the presentation with Sean for the days he was here in SF

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

2009-04-03 Thread Steve Mosher
I can upload the files, but Let me tell you how we work together and you'll see why my email is probably your best bet to understand things, today. I work in words. Sean works in pictures. So by the time we are finished we have a presentation that is all pictures. and then sean talks to that.

Re: buzz fix

2009-04-02 Thread Steve Mosher
looks like the wire is too long. See the photo in the SOP. Also, looks like he didnt remove the rubber around the mic before working on it. Just a guess. Joerg will respond I'm sure. Peter Stumm wrote: Hello, a good friend does the buzz fix for me, but after doing that there is still a

Re: $299 ESC San Jose limited time Special! ?

2009-04-02 Thread Steve Mosher
The phones are indeed A6. The sale is happening for a limited time Shipped from the US Only. So, it's mostly 850Mhz phones. Cédric Berger wrote: On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 16:00, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I've not seen any mention of this on the lists, but it all

Re: GSM buzz-fix party in Braunschweig, Germany

2009-04-02 Thread Steve Mosher
I'm working with the resellers to come with a program to fix the stock. A couple have offered to work with me and we are ironing out the details for a program for all the resellers. Joerg, myself and others have been at this problem since early december. In parallel I'm looking for innovative and

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

2009-04-02 Thread Steve Mosher
Since I worked on the presentation with Sean for the days he was here in SF, let me give you my view and sean's view. That way we won't get into some version of the telephone game. Sean discussed three things at OpenExpo. 1. Our successes. 2. Our mistakes. 3. Our challenges I won't go over 1 2

Re: $299 ESC San Jose limited time Special! ?

2009-04-01 Thread Steve Mosher
Its the real deal. Shipping from US only. Sean gave a great speech at ESC and he was join by Bill Gatliff who reviewed his experience with the platform. This is a new market for us, one not so driven by the needs of a daily phone. more of a hardware hacker crowd who care more about the

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