Re: Microphone busted after buzz-fix
Thanks to everyone that answered. I will ask my friend to re-check for shorts and see what he finds. regards Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Microphone busted after buzz-fix
Hello List, I have 2 freerunners and both were A5's. I have a friend that is experienced soldering and doing reworks and he performed the buzz-fix on both freerunners. However, one of those seems to have the microphone not working anymore. The other Neo was fixed correctly (despite having different resistors or whatever, the interference was reduced a lot). Any suggestions on how to diagnose it correctly? I already loaded the A7 state file (which works wonders on the other neo), tried different distros. Is there any kind of warranty (i know there's not an official one) from openmoko in case i need to ship it back to taiwan or something? Since I'm in Chile and no local distributor is available, I had to perform the fix unoficially. Thanks for the time Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[H:1] connectivity
Hi List, I've been testing H:1 today and I could not find a way to use wifi nor GPRS from the list of apps . I could launch wifi-radar from the terminal but my AP uses WPA and wifi-radar is strange. It asks me for a driver to use WPA. is it ath6k? wpa_supplicant? regards, Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [H:1] connectivity
Vinzenz Hersche escribió: On Donnerstag, 7. Mai 2009 18.21:22 Tomas Riveros Schober wrote: Hi List, I've been testing H:1 today and I could not find a way to use wifi nor GPRS from the list of apps . I could launch wifi-radar from the terminal but my AP uses WPA and wifi-radar is strange. It asks me for a driver to use WPA. is it ath6k? wpa_supplicant? regards, Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community in which distro? Hackable:1 (H:1), and I don't know if mofi works with it, since it comes preinstalled with wifi-radar ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 10
Franky, Thanks for all your hard work! Do you think it would be a good idea to adapt your script to upgrade installations? what I mean is that you could pass an option to the script and it would only upgrade the qt install and then apply relevant fixes (keyboard, prediction, etc), and not everything else that would not be needed for an upgrade (opkg stuff, fixing /etc/network, others). If that sounds good I will try to adapt your script to do that and then report it back to you for approval Tom Franky Van Liedekerke escribió: New location for the files, watch out! (install instructions and script updated on 2090427: see below) Problems solved: See http://www.e-dynamics.be/openmoko/qt-issues-fixed.txt Latest: - 20090427: backspace key added to the keyboard, made the keyboard faster in non predictive mode - qpe.sh startup script adapted to correct for bluetooth patchs differences in 2.6.24 and 2.6.28 kernels. But for the moment, openmoko doesn't provide the bluez3 package anymore, so no bluetooth at all for new installs for now See http://github.com/liedekef/qtmoko/commits/master for the changes Problems found (more like small nuisances now): === See http://www.e-dynamics.be/openmoko/qt-issues.txt Install instructions: = download the script http://www.e-dynamics.be/openmoko/openmoko_install.sh , read the comments at the top and then execute the script on your openmoko (after having flashed the device and made sure internet works). For those who just want to replace their existing QtE: just download the QtE compressed file and replace your existing QtE with it: http://www.e-dynamics.be/openmoko/qte_20090427.tgz. Enjoy! Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QT*] unpredictive keyboard
leona...@lilik.it escribió: Hi list, I've changed strategy on the unpredictive qtopia/qtextended/qtextendedimproved keyboard. Instead of patching the matchbox keyboard I've changed the original qtopia keyboard. I've stretched it a little to make it larger and higher and i made it unpredictable. I added another gesture: if you slide from bottom-right along the diagonal to up-left you can toggle prediction. here you can find the binary and the patch. http://leonardo.lilik.it/wordpress/2009/04/26/qtextended-keyboard-made-unpredictive/ the patch is on Franky's git tree but I guess it works with any Qt* since the keyboard doesn't seem changed at all. The binary is for the qt-extended-improved I'm using.. two improvements are possible: - give a visual feedback when toggling prediction on/off - well, there are three more diagonal gestures that could be used if you have ideas. now matchbox seems quite useless. feedbacks are most welcome. ciao, leonardo. Well, I just get a network timeout. Maybe the server is down? Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR desktop icon display issue.
Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann escribió: Am Donnerstag 23 April 2009 16:05:43 schrieb Daniel.Li: On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 15:47 +0200, Johny Tenfinger wrote: It's not icon issue, it's theme issue. You have selected Illume theme instead of Illume SHR. Sorry, so how can i fix this theme issue. It should be easy, just reset some configurations or copy image files to proper folder. is that right? Please just let me know where or what I have to change. Thanks. http://palfocus.oicp.net/wiki/doku.php?id=blog:daniel:neofreerunner#shr_des ktop_issue you can change the theme with the illume settings (the wrench in the topbar) Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann Well, latest SHR testing does not have Illume SHR listed as a theme anymore (20090422-om-gta02) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] koolu beta 6?
Pieter Colpaert escribió: http://koolu.org/releases/beta6/ I never heard of this before. Anyone tried it yet? Is this a cupcake release (I just got used to the great soft keyboard in android 1.5!)? Is there somewhere a working/not working list available? Pieter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I tried it the other day and it got stuck booting at a koolu splash screen, so I didn't really get too far on testing ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR] Missing icons after install
Hello, I've just tried installing latest SHR-testing (which should be unstable just merged into testing), and it works quite good. However, I cannot find a way to launch certain apps (except than by using the terminal). i.e. TangoGPS is nowhere to be found, but calling tangogps from the terminal launches it correctly. Same thing happens with other apps shown in the initial configuration screen, but somehow lost after booting to e. Am I missing something incredibly stupid (it's been a while since I've tried SHR), or does it work that way? If so, how can I get launchers for those missing apps? thanks in advance Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Missing icons after install
Great! thanks for the quick answer! should it be fixed by opkg upgrade or a .e removal or a full reflash? thanks Tom Johny Tenfinger escribió: Oh. I should do it yesterday or today, but forgot about it. I will fix it tomorrow ;) 2009/4/17, Tomas Riveros Schober trive...@enable.cl: Hello, I've just tried installing latest SHR-testing (which should be unstable just merged into testing), and it works quite good. However, I cannot find a way to launch certain apps (except than by using the terminal). i.e. TangoGPS is nowhere to be found, but calling tangogps from the terminal launches it correctly. Same thing happens with other apps shown in the initial configuration screen, but somehow lost after booting to e. Am I missing something incredibly stupid (it's been a while since I've tried SHR), or does it work that way? If so, how can I get launchers for those missing apps? thanks in advance Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 7
Franky, It's great to see you making huge progress with QtEI, however, I have some questions before trying your build. 1. Do incoming calls get answered using Speaker or Handset? On my phone all incoming calls are answered using Speaker, which is very annying. I've been having this problem since the time QtE was called Qtopia, and no build has had it fixed. 2. Is power management working fine? If I change any settings on my phone, suspend stops working. regards Tom Franky Van Liedekerke escribió: (install instructions and script updated on 2090415: see below) Problems solved: - 20090401: 2.6.28 ok (even 2.6.29-rc2 ok) - 20090401: alarms OK (using atd from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/armv4t/base/, since no newer package exists), normal + when suspended - 20090401: wake up when receiving sms, OK - 20090401: call + echo check, all OK - 20090401: duplicate sms thing: solved (see also fix on 20090412) - 20090401: mail ok - 20090401: wifi ok - 20090403: voice notes (see my mail/patch) ok - 20090404: usb cable handling: ok (mailed a patch to Filip, I hope he integrates all the 2.6.28 patches and commits them) - 20090404: bluetooth ok (need to downgrade to bluez3 and not use bluez4, install script updated accordingly) - 20090410: voicemail number is now saved across reboots (see http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved/ticket/15) - 20090410: snooze function works correctly now for repetitive alarms (see http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved/ticket/27) - 20090412: wlan no longer always online after unsuspend. I don't know if this saves power or not though ... - 20090412: SMS's are deleted from SIM after being read (see http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved/ticket/29). THIS NEEDS TESTING!!! - 20090413: vibrating/alarm/snoozing: works reliable now (there was a bug in the used timers logic that could cause infinite vibrating) - 20090415: missed calls bug finally solved, it took some code rewriting I found in the qtopia version Om2008.12 (thanks Holger!) - 20090415: outgoing call doesn't register anymore as missed when aborting the call before the connection is made (again: thanks Holger!) (the last 2 fixes aren't in any tickets, I need to create a patch for these.) Problems found (more like small nuisances now): === - if you set the time back to something in the past, the clock service crashes and you need to restart qtextended if you want to use the clock again - bluetooth is not working totally ok, only after initial boot it works, not after suspend/resume. Seems to be kernel/bluez3 version combo issue ... After suspend/resume bluetooth seems to work, but receiving files for sure don't. - if you try to delete the Wireless Lan, the system crashes ... cool huh, a crashed phone? So for now: don't do it :-) - waiting call notification doesn' t work for me, it seems that the command to set the CCWA on the network fails for me: AtChat : T : AT+CCWA=1,1,1 AtChat : F : +CME ERROR: 4 AtChat : T : AT+CCWA=1,2 AtChat : F : +CCWA: 0,7 AtChat : F : OK The error +CME ERROR: 4 means that the operation is not supported. Is this provider related? - I had a problem with the battery service crashing on me; all of the suddenly (after many suspend/resumes) the device gave me a warning that the battery was critical low, but after another suspend/resume cycle, the icon showed a full battery (even though the battery was at 60% or so) Install instructions: = download the script http://users.telenet.be/liedekef/openmoko_install.sh , read the comments at the top and then execute the script on your openmoko (after having flashed the device and made sure internet works). For those who just want to replace their existing QtE: just download the QtE compressed file and replace your existing QtE with it: http://users.telenet.be/liedekef/qte_20090415.tgz. Enjoy! Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 7
Franky, I've just installed your version of QtE and everything works very well with one major exception, the phone suspends while on calls! I'm using the rootfs from april 4th (recommended in your script) this is very, very bad! Tom Franky Van Liedekerke escribió: On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:20:50 +0200 Sound Freedom sound.of.free...@gmail.com wrote: - 20090415: missed calls bug finally solved, it took some code rewriting I found in the qtopia version Om2008.12 (thanks Holger!) Is it resolve this problem ? : When the phone is in supsend mode, when somebody call me, the phone doesn't do anything. But when I wake the phone, it's ringing 3 time for a call from unknown person. Then the real call is lost. I don't know if it do the same with a sms. This is kernel related probably ... what kernel+rootfs are you using? Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Request for Feedback - SATAN
Anton Persson escribió: Hi folkz! I just wanted to request user feedback for my app SATAN, if there are _any_ users out there.. I know some people have at least tried, and hopefully all have succeeded, to install and start the application.. But I want to know; have anyone succeeded making some noise with it? What are your thoughts? Do you want any specific improvements or changes? Best regards, Anton Persson ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Well I am not a user (yet), however, I certainly love the name. Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] Suggested IMAP client?
Cameron Frazier escribió: As per the subject, is there a suggested IMAP client for the FR? I'm using SHR-Unstable at the moment, but I figure it's a reasonable question for all distros. Kind regards, Cameron ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community On QtE, the integrated imap client works wonders (however, since my account has 14k mails, it slows down to a crawl) regards Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released
xChris escribió: sorry to say the the wireless patch [1] is not only useless but worst (in my case, as it even NOT connects to wlan). I use the kernel [2] and the binary snapbuild 16032009. any ideas are welcome, regards chris [1] http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved/ticket/6 [2] http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/4.4.3/testing-om-gta02-20090120.uImage.bin it works great for me, but I also fixed the dns resolving issues in /etc/resolv.conf ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released
xChris escribió: btw, I am trying to connect to a WPA network. (it worked ok with the 4.4.2 version) just I am curious if your networks that your connected are open. then.. i have no clue why it work for you and not for me... maybe my h/ware is buggy (its the GTA02v6). chris yes, it is WPA PSK, on two different locations I have a gta02v5 maybe you failed to install the modules for your kernel (IIRC, one of the modules is crypto support, which means it is needed for WPA connections) regards Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yet Another Screen Of Death
Denis Shulyaka escribió: Hi list! I think something similar have already been discussed here, but not exactly my problem. The problem is: I can't wake up from suspend. The first time after reboot I try to wake it up it showes me a white screen with a horisontal gray line at the bottom which quickly fades to black screen. The rest of the system is working, I can ssh into the device and suspend it again using power button. The next time I try to wake it up it usually showes me black screen, but sometimes it's white and sometimes I see vertical black/gray/white 'jazzy' lines that respond on me touching the screen. The most interesting thing is that sometimes it showes a normal screen even if it was unable to wake up previously. I can't tell whether it is temperature related, but it definately doesn't matter how long it was suspended. It never happens on startup. I'm using OM 2008.12 distribution. I tried andy-tracking kernel about a month ago with no luck. Is it a ralatively common problem or I'm so unlucky to be the only one? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community that happened to me while using Qi with 2008.12 try to use u-boot instead, and remember to install the kernel modules after flashing ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QTExtended] Qt Extended is still going
HouYu Li escribió: The community just want to make Qt Extended moving forward. Now everything is there. *Unofficial Qt Extended release 4.4.3 binary* http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/4.4.3/ http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/%7Elihouyu/qtextended/4.4.3/ *Unofficial git repository* git://git.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved.git for git http://git.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved.git for web access *Bugs, Patches and Ideas* Go to http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved Register a user for submit bugs, patches and ideas. -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com http://hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com http://gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net http://phpex.net PHP Developer Red Hat Certified Engineer Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community This is great! as soon as I get my neo back (it's on soldering nowbuzz fix), I will install 4.4.3 and report back whatever I find. Thanks for all the work needed to setup a place for the community to start! Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtExtended] about bug reports
Considering that QtE is officially dead, what shall we do about bugs in the current (last) code? shall we start a separate bug tracker in addition to the community git repo? shall we report back to nokia using the usual tracker? should we just send patches to the git repo (until a solution is found)? It would be nice if we (the community) join efforts to keep QtE alive as long as possible. Regards Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QTE 4.4.3] Determining which version of GSM firmware I have.
I have just upgraded using the sd card method from moko10 to moko11 without issues on both my brother's phone and mine, so maybe it's some sort of corner case W.Kenworthy escribió: It did for me - absolutely refused to upgrade in every way I tried until I downgraded (as per the wiki page) and then the upgrade worked fine. This happened with moko10 and trying to upgrade to moko11 - yes doesnt make sense, but the fact I ran into it, and the wiki page had a fix that specifically mentioned it means its a real problem. BillK On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 14:01 +0300, Paul Fertser wrote: Friedrich Clausen f...@derf.nl writes: On the previously mentioned GSM flashing page it says Also PLEASE DON 'T USE moko9beta1, as there is at least one report on reflashing to another FW gets difficult from moko9b1. but this is the GSM firmware that came with my phone so I have no choice but to flash from this firmware - I hope it goes well! Looks like there was some confusion and this information is incorrect. The installed firmware version can't make upgrading harder, especially given you use the ROM bootloader. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Troubles with opkg.org repo
(...cut...) With that huge list of broken packages, wouldn't it be better to just remove them from opkg.org's repository while good versions are uploaded? maybe after that implement some sort of automatic check for both conditions (file type and control file inside) regards Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released
now that was fastdid you by chance check if the echo fix was integrated or not? do we have to integrate it ourselves? (im talking about chris samuel's fix) Tom HouYu Li escribió: I made a qt-extended 4.4.3 release binary only build. you can get it here http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/4.4.3/ http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/%7Elihouyu/qtextended/4.4.3/ rootfs come later... On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org mailto:ch...@csamuel.org wrote: Just noticed that the files for the release of 4.4.3 (source only so far) have just appeared on the Qt Extended site whilst I was looking around. More info in the posting by Lorn here: http://qtextended.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=54 cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com http://hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com http://gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net http://phpex.net PHP Developer Red Hat Certified Engineer Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released
can you try to set up a wlan connection (or a gprs one) and check if resolv.conf gets updated properly? that's one of the biggest flaws that old QtE had the rootfs you're using is fso, right? regards, Tom HouYu Li escribió: Just had a test. Echo is there, and incoming call is received twice. I am using rootfs and kernel from openmoko daily build 20090120. So the kernel is 2.6.24. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Tomas Riveros Schober trive...@enable.cl mailto:trive...@enable.cl wrote: now that was fastdid you by chance check if the echo fix was integrated or not? do we have to integrate it ourselves? (im talking about chris samuel's fix) Tom HouYu Li escribió: I made a qt-extended 4.4.3 release binary only build. you can get it here http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/4.4.3/ http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/%7Elihouyu/qtextended/4.4.3/ http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/%7Elihouyu/qtextended/4.4.3/ rootfs come later... On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org mailto:ch...@csamuel.org mailto:ch...@csamuel.org mailto:ch...@csamuel.org wrote: Just noticed that the files for the release of 4.4.3 (source only so far) have just appeared on the Qt Extended site whilst I was looking around. More info in the posting by Lorn here: http://qtextended.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=54 cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com http://hotmail.com http://hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com http://gmail.com http://gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net http://phpex.net http://phpex.net PHP Developer Red Hat Certified Engineer Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com http://hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com http://gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net http://phpex.net PHP Developer Red Hat Certified Engineer Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: latest qt extended?
that is absolutely no release! that image was built from the source snapshots a while ago, and probably does not represent QtExtended's current state (i mean 4.4.3 release), so I would wait for a proper build from the latest release instead. regards Tom andrew howlett escribió: yes, check this wiki page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qt_Extended_4.4.3 later, andrew. Is the any qt extended release that has been updated recently? I.e, this year? I am looking for one with the echo and WSOD fixes in it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: latest qt extended?
andrew howlett escribió: Sorry Tom, I'll remove the links at the referenced wiki page and update it (tomorrow?) after I've compiled the official 4.4.3 source which trolltech released today. andrew. No problem at all, besides, if there was a link in the wiki maybe I'd have to distribute the source too ;) and it's just a thrown together image that happens to work (for me, and apparently some others) let's see who's first to put up updated QtE images! regards, Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Report on 4.4.3 src on FSO
andrew howlett escribió: Tomas: I downloaded the .bin and .jffs2 which you had posted - they rock! WSOD is gone, phone sounds good. Thank you very much for posting the backup file. Andrew Howlett. I'm glad they worked for you. Hopefully, tomorrow's release will bring more improvements (specially with regards to wlan and dns) Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Report on 4.4.3 src on FSO
Glen Ogilvie escribió: On Sunday 22 February 2009, Tomas Riveros Schober wrote: as some might have noticed, I've been struggling with my efforts to build QtExtended on FSO as specified on mwester's page[1]. Today I've been successful on building the whole pack of stuff and run it on my neo. ---CUT-- If anyone wants to try it, I can upload the whole set of images somewhere, or maybe a full backup of my phone so people can try it for themselves (just please notice that this is highly experimental and probably not very well built) Hi Tomas, Do you have a tar.gz of QtExtended 4.4.3 on FSO with echo fixed? I'd like to try it, as am looking for something that I can use as an everyday OS for my open moko. What kernel are you running with it? does supend and resume work without any issues? Regards Glen Ogilvie Yes, I believe the backup i uploaded to http://triveros.go.dyndns.org/qtopia/ should be echo-free. However, I do not remember which kernel is that one using - probably om-testing 2.6.24 (and the backup should have the modules installed too). Also, this is an internal backup, not one to put on your SD card. You probably would prefer to use the following method to get an updated rootfs. get a FSO console image and its kernel (use 2.6.24, not 2.6.28 or you will get weird issues with everything, especially suspend/resume), then blast a qtextended tarball to it (i have a 4.4.3 snapshot built on that same address, it's called qtefso.tgz) and then apply the echo patch from http://www.csamuel.org/2009/01/08/echo-suppression-fix-for-qt-extended-442-on-openmoko-neo I believe that 4.4.2 and 4.4.3 are binary-compatible so it should pose no problem to use it. good luck! Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Error found on make fso-gta02-milestone5-image
since it's glibc related, why not try this: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:MokoMakefile#glibc_fails_to_build Tom Daniel.Li escribió: On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 07:50 +0800, HouYu Li wrote: using the default makefile from download site works well. haven't tried the git version. I think you might try milestone5.1. I have check wget http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/Makefile;. And diff this file with common/Makefile. They are the same. On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 7:43 AM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: Dear List, I have followed http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Building_FSO to build fso $ git clone git://git.freesmartphone.org/fso-makefile common $ ln -s common/Makefile Makefile $ make fso-gta02-milestone5-image blabla.. NOTE: Psyco JIT Compiler (http://psyco.sf.net) not available. Install it to increase performance. NOTE: Handling BitBake files: | (5389/6406) [84 %]ERROR: Could not include required file glibc_2.6.1.bb while parsing /home/daniel/work4/fso/fso-milestone5/openembedded/packages/glibc/glibc-initial_2.6.1.bb NOTE: Handling BitBake files: - (6406/6406) [100 %] NOTE: Parsing finished. 0 cached, 6123 parsed, 282 skipped, 0 masked. ERROR: Parsing errors found, exiting... make[1]: *** [image] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/daniel/work4/fso/fso-milestone5' make: *** [fso-gta02-milestone5-image] Error 2 Have anyone met this before, how can i solve this? Thanks. -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Programmer Red Hat Certified Engineer Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Report on 4.4.3 src on FSO
Daniel.Li escribió: On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 16:16 +0800, HouYu Li wrote: Hi, Tom. Thank you for you instruction although I haven't try it. And I just made a compile on qtextended snapshot 20090223, no patches applied. And I made a rootfs image and a tarball with the daily build nox rootfs and 2.6.24 kernel (20090223) from downloads.openmoko.org. You can get it here: http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/. I haven't give it a test. I will do it after work today. If anyone would like to try, just download it. Hope it gives you a lot of fun. BTW, what can I get the source code ver 4.4.3. I have tried wiki link, but I didn't find any. Could u please direct me to the right place? Thanks. http://qtextended.org/downloads/snapshots/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OE git problem?
Daniel.Li escribió: Dear Fellows, I have posted this yesterday. It seems that I have mail the wrong place. Did anyone met this before, or simply direct me to the right direction. Any help is mostly appreciated. THanks. On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 21:17 +0800, Daniel.Li wrote: Dear All, Did anyone meet this before? How can I fix the problem? Thanks in advance. $ git clone git://git.openembedded.net/openembedded openembedded Initialized empty Git repository in /home/daniel/work4/FSO/openembedded/.git/ fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly fatal: early EOF fatal: index-pack failed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I'm a total noob, but so far things look good: $ git clone git://git.openembedded.net/openembedded openembedded Initialized empty Git repository in /home/tomas/OE/openembedded/.git/ remote: Counting objects: 271863, done. remote: Compressing objects: 100% (95864/95864), done. Receiving objects: 1% (3659/271863), 507.99 KiB | 330 KiB/s regards Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qt Extended 4.4.2 Feed
and...@howlett.net escribió: I couldn't find any good Qt Extended 4.4.2 feeds so I made my own: http://radagast.bglug.ca/neo All Qt Extended 4.4.2 users are welcome to use it. If you want me to add your package email it to me at and...@nospampleasehowlett.net (remove the nospamplease to form the correct email address). So far I've got the example app, qtgps and qterminal in the feed. later, andrew. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Thanks for the repo, but so far qterminal doesn't work in 4.4.2 or 4.4.3 just compiled (doesn't crash either, but it's only showing the keyboard, and the screen freezes) regards Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qt Extended 4.4.2 SDK Build Instructions
Answering on-list: Daniel.Li escribió: Dear Tom Thanks for ur help. It works :) Well, I'm a fresh-man to Qt. I have a few question about QT extension, and sorry for below dumb questions :( a) QT is a library of GUI, is it right? QT is a gui toolkit, which is used to build QtExtended and many othe applications b) Which driver is QT based on? Can u point me to the right direction? Thanks. I don't get this question...if you mean which distro is the QtE image based on, it's based on 2008.x unstable c) How can I install QT extension? Does I need a basic console file system? How can I build this simple basic file system? You can get a basic console system from http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/ and selecting the console image. After you flash that you can install QtE on it like an application. d) I have done with the last two steps --bin/qbuild image --bin/qbuild sdk good! that should give you both the QtExtended binaries and the QtExtended SDK e) I need to develop a 3-D QT application, how can I use openGL? I don't think QtE can use OpenGL, since it's using the framebuffer to draw the screen. It doesn't use X, so i believe that you're out of luck in that regard. Any advise and tips are mostly appreciated. Thanks very much for ur help! :) On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 00:08 +0800, Daniel.Li wrote: did you ever try it with -build-qt? because i once did that and it borked my qt installI basically had to remove the build directory and start over. Well, it's compiling now. Thanks. And I have no idea when it'll be done, I have to go back to sleep, cause mid-night:) Report back to u tomorrow :) (GMT+8 timezone) Thanks again. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: build fso image erorr
HouYu Li escribió: Hi, Danie, I have the same problem... On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com mailto:lida_m...@163.com wrote: Dear All, I followed http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Building_FSO to build fsoMakefile and found following error, which can't get resolved in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:MokoMakefile . Did I miss something? Any help is mostly appreciated! Thanks. an...@daniel-laptop:~/work4/FSO$ make fso-gta02-testing-image ( cd fso-testing ; \ make setup-image-fso-image ; \ make setup-machine-om-gta02 ; \ make -k image ) make[1]: Entering directory `/home/daniel/work4/FSO/fso-testing' ( grep IMAGE_TARGET = \fso-image\ conf/auto.conf /dev/null ) || \ sed -i -e 's/^IMAGE_TARGET[[:space:]]*=[[:space:]]*\.*\/IMAGE_TARGET = \fso-image\/' conf/auto.conf make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/daniel/work4/FSO/fso-testing' make[1]: Entering directory `/home/daniel/work4/FSO/fso-testing' ( grep MACHINE = \om-gta02\ conf/auto.conf /dev/null ) || \ sed -i -e 's/^MACHINE[[:space:]]*=[[:space:]]*\.*\/MACHINE = \om-gta02\/' conf/auto.conf make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/daniel/work4/FSO/fso-testing' make[1]: Entering directory `/home/daniel/work4/FSO/fso-testing' . conf/topdir.conf test `pwd` = $TOPDIR || echo TOPDIR='`pwd`' conf/topdir.conf . ./setup-env; exec bitbake fso-image NOTE: Psyco JIT Compiler (http://psyco.sf.net) not available. Install it to increase performance. NOTE: Handling BitBake files: | (6580/6580) [100 %] NOTE: Parsing finished. 0 cached, 6301 parsed, 279 skipped, 0 masked. NOTE: build 200902240731: started OE Build Configuration: BB_VERSION= 1.8.13 METADATA_BRANCH = org.openembedded.dev METADATA_REVISION = d5ab9dee3874c2b0e871e626cf3bc0220cd038c4 TARGET_ARCH = arm TARGET_OS = linux-gnueabi MACHINE = om-gta02 DISTRO= openmoko DISTRO_VERSION= -20090223 TARGET_FPU= soft ERROR: Nothing PROVIDES 'fso-image' make[1]: *** [image] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/daniel/work4/FSO/fso-testing' make: *** [fso-gta02-testing-image] Error 2 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com http://hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com http://gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net http://phpex.net PHP Programmer Red Hat Certified Engineer 15th Feb, 2008 Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I ended up passing the command make fso-gta02-milestone5-image and it worked. No clue why testing and unstable are broken regards Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qt Extended 4.4.2 SDK Build Instructions
You don't really get a rootfs after the compilation, but more like a bunch of binary files that you have to blast to a proper rootfs to be able to start qtopia. I can share my experiment with qtopia on fso if you guys want, but it is just a backup of my phone, so it's nothing fancy Tom HouYu Li escribió: Hi, Is it possible to have a tutorial on how to create a rootfs image? I can build qte sucessfully but I cannot start qte on my freerunner with the default rootfs from qtextended.org any help? On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com mailto:lida_m...@163.com wrote: On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 12:13 -0300, Tomas Riveros Schober wrote: You need to install the qt4-dev-tools, libqt4-dev packages (i think that should pull all dependencies, else just search for qt4 and install what you see fit) Humm,, I know what u mean. I have tried this, but it seems didn't work. I think there must be something else that should be installed. $ sudo apt-get install libqt4-dev qt4-dev-tools Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done libqt4-dev is already the newest version. qt4-dev-tools is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com mailto:lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com http://hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com http://gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net http://phpex.net PHP Programmer Red Hat Certified Engineer 15th Feb, 2008 Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qt Extended 4.4.2 SDK Build Instructions
That jffs2 file will give you a barebones fso install, to which you have to copy your compiled qtopia package and then untar, unzip and install. You can follow these instructions to do that (taken from mwester's website): ssh to the phone (do these ones on the phone) wget http://moko.mwester.net/download/apm-qtopia-v2.tgz tar -xzf apm-qtopia-v2.tgz cd apm-qtopia-v2 ./install.sh | ln -s /etc/init.d/qpe /etc/rc5.d/S98qpe ||mkdir /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia| | (do this on the host) scp /path/to/qtextended.tgz r...@192.168.0.202:/opt/Trolltech/Qtopia (do this on the phone) cd ||/opt/Trolltech/Qtopia| |tar xzf qtextended.tgz cp ||/opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/qpe.sh /etc/init.d/qpe Now restart and QtE will boot next time instead of the console image. I have a prebuilt qtextended 4.4.3 snapshot tarball in http://triveros.go.dyndns.org/qtopia/qtefso.tgz in case you don't feel like building your own tarball (this is vanilla, no patches applied) regards Tom |HouYu Li escribió: Ok, I really downloaded a rootfs tarball from http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=4, the first one. And created a .jffs2 file sucessfully. And then flash it to my freerunner. But I cannot start it. Do you know any tutorials on how to use qtopia with fso rootfs?? And I am happy to see how you do it... Thank you very much. On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Tomas Riveros Schober trive...@enable.cl mailto:trive...@enable.cl wrote: You don't really get a rootfs after the compilation, but more like a bunch of binary files that you have to blast to a proper rootfs to be able to start qtopia. I can share my experiment with qtopia on fso if you guys want, but it is just a backup of my phone, so it's nothing fancy Tom HouYu Li escribió: Hi, Is it possible to have a tutorial on how to create a rootfs image? I can build qte sucessfully but I cannot start qte on my freerunner with the default rootfs from qtextended.org any help? On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com mailto:lida_m...@163.com mailto:lida_m...@163.com mailto:lida_m...@163.com wrote: On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 12:13 -0300, Tomas Riveros Schober wrote: You need to install the qt4-dev-tools, libqt4-dev packages (i think that should pull all dependencies, else just search for qt4 and install what you see fit) Humm,, I know what u mean. I have tried this, but it seems didn't work. I think there must be something else that should be installed. $ sudo apt-get install libqt4-dev qt4-dev-tools Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done libqt4-dev is already the newest version. qt4-dev-tools is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com mailto:lida_m...@163.com mailto:lida_m...@163.com mailto:lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com http://hotmail.com http://hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com http://gmail.com http://gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net http://phpex.net http://phpex.net PHP Programmer Red Hat Certified Engineer 15th Feb, 2008 Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com http://hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com http://gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net http://phpex.net PHP Programmer Red Hat Certified Engineer 15th Feb, 2008 Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qt Extended 4.4.2 SDK Build Instructions
Daniel.Li escribió: Dear Andrew, Thanks for the great work. I'm using ubuntu 8.10 to compile the Qt Extended 4.4.2 SDK. I have updated qt lib on ubuntu, still can't fix the problem? Any ideas? $ $QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH/configure -device neo -D _FORTIFY_SOURCE=0 This is the Qt Extended Open Source Edition. You are licensed to use this software under the terms of the GPL. Please see the file LICENSE.GPL for the licensing terms. Type 'yes' to accept this license offer. Type 'no' to decline this license offer. Do you accept this license agreement? yes Testing the system Qt: FAIL Qt Extended requires Qt 4.3 or higher to be installed. You must have qmake in your PATH. If your system's package manager does not provide Qt 4 development libraries please see the Guide to Configuring and Building Qt Extended for information on how to build Qt from the included source or pass -build-qt to configure and it will build Qt for you (and then bootstrap QBuild from that). make: *** [src/build/mkconf/configure] Error 2 On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 15:23 +, and...@howlett.net wrote: Hi all, Just getting started with FreeRuner and thought I would share my experience building Qt Extended 4.4.2 SDK. Follow this link for the details: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:R dagast#Qt_Extended_SDK later, andrew. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community You need to install the qt4-dev-tools, libqt4-dev packages (i think that should pull all dependencies, else just search for qt4 and install what you see fit) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtExtended] Report on 4.4.3 src on FSO
Hello list! as some might have noticed, I've been struggling with my efforts to build QtExtended on FSO as specified on mwester's page[1]. Today I've been successful on building the whole pack of stuff and run it on my neo. So here's my report to whoever is interested (skip down to just check out what works and what doesn't): Built on Ubuntu 8.04, using backported Qt. First thing I built was FSO, but since fso-testing was not compiling (some packages were missing from the src repos), i decided to compile fso-m5. All was good (takes a long time!!). So i built the images, then built the nox version and then the toolchain. All was good. To build QtExtended was another story. No matter what I did, it would always complain about not finding libdbus-1 when using FSO's toolchain. I tried all the pkg-config wizardry I could come up with but nothing worked in the end, so I ended up compiling QtE using nokia's toolchain. If anyone got any tips on how to compile QtE using FSO's toolchain, I'd love to know them. So after everything was built I flashed the whole pack into the phone and installed QtE as mwester's instructions (thanks!), only to realize that 2.6.28 is terribly supported under QtE, and would kill the screen upon resume from suspend, and also, most thing would freeze up and just die a painful death. Then I flashed a 2.6.24 kernel from openmoko's daily build[2], together with the modules and console image, then installed QtE again and bam! all was working. This is what I've tested so far: working good: suspend and resume power management changes (which didn't work properly on 4.4.2) UI speed (way better than 4.4.2) boot speed (boots in under a minute in my phone) GSM (it unregistered once, maybe a one-time issue), but phone quality is superb, and it never happened again. not working so good: Wifi (can register, but won't update /etc/resolv.conf so no dns, and it will stop working after a suspend, to never come back) did not test yet: GPRS (however, it was working perfectly in 4.4.2 so I assume this is still the case) GPS Bluetooth (same as gprs, was fine before) so, if anyone was thinking about compiling 4.4.3 snapshots to get better networking...well, I cannot say I reccomend it since it did not fix the dns issues that 4.4.2 has, but it is indeed way speedier. If anyone wants to try it, I can upload the whole set of images somewhere, or maybe a full backup of my phone so people can try it for themselves (just please notice that this is highly experimental and probably not very well built) hope I didn't bore you with this lengthy post. [1]http://moko.mwester.net/qtextended.html [2]http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/testing/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qt Extended 4.4.2 SDK Build Instructions
and...@howlett.net escribió: Hi all, Just getting started with FreeRuner and thought I would share my experience building Qt Extended 4.4.2 SDK. Follow this link for the details: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Radagast#Qt_Extended_SDK later, andrew. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Thanks for your work! I've been trying to build QtE too, however, I'm trying to build it using FSO as the base image, using the FSO toolchain as mwester's page. However I've not been successful so far (it complains about not finding dbus-1, I will be trying to debug it and get it to work all day today so I'll report back if i get to something) The main idea is to modernize the underlying rootfs for qtextended, so we can benefit from all the kernel bugfixing and all that (and faster boot times!) regards Tom PS. your instructions are indeed very helpful ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QT Extended GPRS
Jelle De Loecker escribió: Good morning everyone, I've flashed the latest QT Extended image, once with mwester's kernel, once with the kernel supplied in the package. To get GPRS working I tried these instructions: http://tinyurl.com/dysvkn (Which made me download a set of packages from mwester's site) For some reason, though, whenever the phone would initiate gprs it would completely freeze... Has anyone else encountered the same problem? Greetings, Jelle De Loecker ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community no, but my gprs works fine after setting it up using the gui (setting the dns myself using the opendns one) and manually editing /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/ppp/resolv.conf to the opendns values since somehow only using the gui managed to connect but not resolve names properly. Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02
Well, now that my regular phone is on repairs, I've been using my neo as my main phone without major issues (just a little bit of buzz and low volume, but nothing extreme). It is currently running the fixed QtExtended 4.4.2 with the echo patch kindly posted by Chris Samuel (which works wonders by the way - never had any echo complains anymore) I can use it for gprs but so far not for wifi Tom Juergen Schinker escribió: bytestore wrote: Freerunner is my daily phone, my hobby,my freeing, my satisfaction its help me on the work (terminal, gps, gprs) se w300i is my second phone (only phone and photomaker) please everyone who uses the freerunner as a daily phone always mention how e.g with which distribution software etc. i'm happy for everyone who does but i desperatly want to use it as well as a phone... BTW: i use my desktop as a daily desktop !?! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qt Extended update ?
Al Johnson escribió: On Saturday 31 January 2009, Joerg Lippmann wrote: Am Montag 26 Januar 2009 schrieb HouYu Li: On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org wrote: Does anyone know if there's any updates for Qt Extended in the pipeline ? I am looking forward to it. Does the silence here mean that no one here is working on QtE or that no one can/wants to give any information? Probably. Well, you can always build it from source http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qtopia#Installation_option_4:_updating_from_source however, it is not clear to me if we _have_ to start from the current rootfs (meaning flashing QtExtended, then compiling and scp'ing the updated binaries into the neo), or if we can start from, say, a minimal rootfs (fso console comes to mind) and then install QtE on it. regards Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix attempt, tomorrow
Yoann ARNAUD escribió: Yoann ARNAUD a écrit : I'll try to make the pictures available tonight. Here they are : http://perso.crans.org/yarnaud/Openmoko/Buzz_Fix/ is this buzz + bass fixes? because the reference pictures from the SOP paper don't show that second thing you soldered (not the yellow one, the other) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: what tests for (non working) 3G SIM?
well, I had a non-working 3g card, but did the firmware upgrade and it works ok now. so i suggest you do the same Tom Chris Syntichakis escribió: Hi, As I see the SIM from 3mobile (UK) is not working with the GTA02v6 (running SHR unstable). Should I run any debugging tests (just for your info..)? If so, what can I do? Chris ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR Unstable
wp escribió: I'm using shr-unstable aswell, but from 13th january. Newer versions have not working gsm, and have that very annoying issue program crashed and left no error log when accesing contacts or messages. I'm flashing every new images to see if it is solved, because this the best distribution I used so far. Good work! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I've been using shr unstable from jan 23rd and I can confirm the crashing. It did, however worked great until I tried to start numptyphysics (meaning I could send and receive calls without any issues, and they were echo-free). After starting numpty, the neo crashed badly i.e. screen not responding and filled with different colors vertical lines, so i had to remove the battery and start the phone again. After that the dialer app has never worked (crashes all the time), and neither does contacts or anything that accesses the SIM Regards, Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR Unstable
Michael Sheldon escribió: Tomas Riveros Schober wrote: so i had to remove the battery and start the phone again. After that the dialer app has never worked (crashes all the time), and neither does contacts or anything that accesses the SIM Have you checked to make sure that your SIM is seated correctly? Try removing it and putting it back in to make sure, it's possible that when removing the battery you opened the SIM holder's catches slightly and it's no longer making correct contact. Cheers, Mike I've just reseated the sim card and I still have crashes on both apps (also, the contacts apps no longer shos anything, it's like it cannot read it properly anymore) regards, Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Dead Neo 1973 - drained battery
well I've used a usb cable to boot a not-so-dead neo, and a nokia battery to boot one that was turned off for like a week wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com escribió: Any way I can ressusitate this device ? W ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[big C rework] Anyone in Chile doing this?
Hello list, I wonder if anyone in Chile with a freerunner is interested in doing the rework proposed by joerg. I´m cuerrently checking prices and they are making a big discount if they repair 10 or more units. If anyone is interested just email me. Tom PS. I´m going to post this to the spanish mailing list too in case people don´t read the english one. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[OM-testing] change default dialer volume
Hello list, I've been playing around with the daily testing image and found it to be reasonably good. The only thing that I've not found how to do i to set the default in-call volume (the qtopia-dialer one) since on every call the volume starts at 0 so, as you can imagine, i can barely hear anything. Anyone knows where to set the default value? regards, Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM-testing] change default dialer volume
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Tomas Riveros Schober wrote: Hello list, I've been playing around with the daily testing image and found it to be reasonably good. The only thing that I've not found how to do i to set the default in-call volume (the qtopia-dialer one) since on every call the volume starts at 0 so, as you can imagine, i can barely hear anything. Anyone knows where to set the default value? As I've written in the bug #2140 two days ago, to avoid this issue the openembedded PhoneProfile.conf should have been updated, but it seems that it hasn't been. Btw you can easily fix your problem by editing the file /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/PhoneProfile.conf Adding, for each profile, a line like: CallVolume = 3 More infos at [2]. [1] http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2140#comment:6 [2] http://git.openmoko.org/?p=qtopia.git;a=commit;h=1819dc7a500d51083b8871cd55b5e4507da329a5 wow, thank you very much for the information, that was precisely what i was looking for (however, the bug is not exactly the same, since the phone is configured to ring, not to silence or vibrate only) Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Soft keyboard
I'm not familiar with the android environment so here are a couple of questions do I need the android SDK to install this keyboard? if I don't need it then, how do I ssh into android once it's running? I've tried the usual ifconfig usb0 x.x.x.x ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] but the connection is refused. if i dont need to ssh to install it, then how to do it? regards Tom Walter Chang escribió: i can't wait till q1 of next year for google to come out with a soft keyboard so i made one. I used the copy-and-paste functionality on Android so the keyboard works with other apps without changing them. to download: http://code.google.com/p/netgents/downloads/list and download qad-keyboard.apk. for instructions on installation and usage: http://code.google.com/p/netgents/wiki/QadKeyboardHowto . enjoy, walter chang -- ...__o ...\, ( )/ ( )... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
anyone knows where is the changelog for this new image? i couldn't find it anywhere. abatrour escribió: A new rootfs has been released. http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The Lost Openmoko Community
My brother feels exactly like you. he's not really a techie and depends on me for most stuffhowever i tought him how to report bugs and watch the tracker, but he gets dissapointed that whenever he tries to report something its either already there or he doesnt have the logs required. Thing is, he packed his freerunner in the box and saved it for when its more developed (aka, ready). I'm more of a tinkerer so im happy to have a half-assed phone, with lots of noise and echo and not a good alarm (i had to buy something else to wake me in the morning reliably), and usually flash every other distro every other day and test stuff. However, I do believe that there's lack of community communication with openmoko...we dont know their plan or priorities (ie, for many many users, first and foremost we need a phone without noise or echo, but there seems to be little done by openmoko in that area). Also showing lack of focus is the releases. There have been some patches that dont appear to be implemented in 2008.x but FDOM has had it since the beginning (gtk fix, dns resolv, or the infamous keyboard debate) I think that's it for now, sorry for the long post, but it's 2 users around here. Tom Risto H. Kurppa escribió: BUGS I don't know how others feel but I really don't feel like reporting bugs in the bug tracker [3]. OK, I'm running an unsupported distro (2007.2) so there's one reason but I also feel that it's okay to post kernel bugs only there, not anything that a normal user would see in his GUI. Is this correct or just a feeling or misunderstanding? Remember that all Freerunner owners and people here in the community are not kernel developers. I don't even know how to save back traces or hack the source code but I'm happy to report if something doesn't work and then when someone more skillful finds what's wrong and eventually fixes it, I'm again happy to try if the fix works for me. For some reason I feel that there's no space in the community for users like me. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: dead battery
try again and it will eventually workthe usb cable connected to the computer is usually the way to go...and when it boots, quickly swap it to the ac charger...at least that's what i just did (my neo died during the night) Vince M. Clark escribió: Well, I'm out of options. I left my fr plugged into the trickle charger overnight. Still won't boot. Then I read this last post, about removing the battery long enough for a reset, plugging into USB for 5-10 min, unplug/pause/plug back in. Still won't boot. The only thing I haven't done that was recommended in this last post is to use the latest u-boot. Unfortunately I cannot do this until I get it to boot. Guess I will wait for my external charger to arrive. Should I be concerned that this isn't just a battery issue and maybe my fr is dead? - Original Message - From: William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:01:52 AM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: dead battery These are my understandings from lots of reading and previous posts between myself and Andy Green and others on the subject - should all be in the archives. With 2007.2 I was hit one out of every 3 overnight suspends ending in a flat battery. At least with 2008.9 its rarer (but does happen :( With the later u-boots, usb default is 100ma as soon as its plugged in. This unfortunately is less than a running Fr needs. Normally as soon as the operating system is up enough, it will negotiate up to 500ma with the host, or in the case of the wall charger, read the sense resistor and see that 1A is available. When the OS is suspended, the PMU manages the charge until the battery is charged whereupon it switches off - and stays off. If the OS is running, it will cycle back on when the battery level falls to 10-20% (reports vary) as the OS can reset and renegotiate the charge level. If the battery is very low (i.e., the internal fail-safe disconnects it), remove it from the phone for 30 seconds or so. This allows the fail-safe to reset (this is what I think happens based on my observations) so the 100ma can get to the battery, and also reset the phone hardware - in particular the GSM modem which is directly connected to the battery and is thought to be root cause by Andy Green - possibly goes into a wierd state as power drops as well, preventing restart until reset. The power rail of course drops due to the inrush current much more during startup with a low battery than normal, causing one chip (USB I think) to detect a dangerously low voltage and issue a shutdown. So you cant get the phone to boot until the battery has had a few minutes of charge. In my case, USB to my laptop or a desktop machine does it. Remove/pause/replace battery plug into USB for 5-10 minutes remove/pause/replug USB cable and normal boot will happen within a few seconds. The wall charger should work as well, but on my one try it didnt - possibly because the u-boot wasnt new enough at the time. Recommendation - use a late (latest!) u-boot. BillK On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 22:13 -0700, Michael Shiloh wrote: Vince, When my battery died I plugged my phone into the OpenMoko supplied charger, started it using NOR boot, leaving it at the boot menu until it timed out (repeat that twice) then I was about to select boot from the NOR menu and after a few extra seconds the phone booted. -Shawn I'm confused. I thought that we didn't turn on the charger until we booted into Linux. Am I wrong? Do we charge in u-boot, even at a low rate? Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: dead battery
well whenever im hit with a dead battery i just plug the freerunner to the computer's usb port and let it sit for a few minutes then turn it on to NOR...or NAND whichever one works first Paul escribió: Joel Newkirk wrote: A desktop charger for a Nokia BL-5c or BL-6c battery will do the job, at least the two non-Nokia ones I've tried. I've done it a few times. I've never let it sit on the charger until full, so I don't know if the charger can recognize full charge on the FreeRunner battery or not, but left on the charger for 15-20 minutes it will boot the FreeRunner. Very useful to know, thank you. I am anxiously waiting for my FR to arrive. I wonder about something: does a FR come with charged batteries?? One would expect so, otherwise it can never be started/used. Am I correct in this? Paul ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM 2008.9 update?
i read a couple messages ago that its being worked on. so, being patient or getting involved are the only 2 options for now... regards Tom Glen Ogilvie escribió: Hi, I enjoyed using FDOM, with the already configured stuff it was nice and easy to get things working. Is the going to be an update that is based on om2008.9 release? Regards Glen Ogilvie ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Idea for Openmoko application: Tide updates
well i think the gps can give you the altitute, albeit not very precise, but it works fine. Crane, Matthew escribió: It would be a pretty straight forward project to make a ez-usb key with a magnetometer and pressure sensor. But maybe it's easier to flywire inside case as I think these chips would be pretty tiny. Of course, it would be super cool to productize a ez-usb project and make it a full sensor add on kit, with gyro, temp, 3d magnetometer, and air pressure. Make a package that fits flush with the moko frame. Air pressure sensor: http://www.vti.fi/en/products/pressure-sensors/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Denis Galvão Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:53 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Idea for Openmoko application: Tide updates On 18/09/2008, at 01:56, Adam Bogacki wrote: I like the concept and would like to volunteer to test a prototype in New Zealand conditions. For sure Adam. Like Michael said, we should start something in the wiki. I was looking for something similar and found this: http://www.sonimtech.com/ This is what Im looking for, at least as a water proof case. Is this possible to use the actual GTA_02 hardware version to do: - Compass ? - Altimeter ? How should be the best way to have this information on the phone? Using an external hardware module? Cheers, -- Denis Brazil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8 default dialer crash on # or *
I'd love to test a patched binary, but im not really in a hurry so knowing that the patch is already commited is still great news. thanks treviño ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM updated
Thank you very much for this! im still downloading this one, but if its as good as the last one, then its gonna rock! btw, thanks for the info about qtopia crashing afer an opkg update/upgrade, it was driving me nuts Tom David Samblas escribió: see wiki page for more details (thanks to all that help to mantain and correct it) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FDOM_-_a_Fat_and_Dirty_OM_based_distribution Added Pidgin, and Remoko and something else :) http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM Regards David Samblas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mac USB Networking
What im doing is using a vmware virtual machine with linux mint installed (it was the only image i had lying around in my hd), so i just share the network using NAT and then the trick in the wiki (linux simple networking) after plugging the FR with the virtual machine focused. that way i can df-utils and get usb network to the FR. hope it helps! Warren Baird escribió: I had slightly more luck with the opensource zaurus driver also mentioned on the mac page - but I found neither solution worked well - after rebooting 6 or 7 times I think I managed to get the USB networking going once. I'm afraid I gave up and ended up just using a linux server that I was fortunate to have access to... I tried briefly using a Linux vmware image, but I also couldn't get that working. If anyone else has managed to get this to work, I'd love to hear about it... Warren On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Lally Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, Just got the FR yesterday (nice physical design). I installed the patched network driver listed under Apple CDC Ethernet driver 10.5.x, and the Networking pane shows a USB serial connection, but no ethernet. It also does not show up as enXX in ifconfig. This is OS X 10.5.4. http://10.5.4. I can use dfu-util fine. But, I haven't found a way to get the wifi working yet, so the device is networkless. Anyone else have a mac with a working usb networking setup? What'd you do? I'll happily update the wiki with the result. Here's my ifconfig when the device is plugged in (this was right before I did the dfu-util reflash): lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet 127.0.0.1 http://127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fd5d:a24b:2849:fed7:217:f2ff:fece:65ba prefixlen 128 gif0: flags=8010POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST mtu 1280 stf0: flags=0 mtu 1280 en0: flags=8863UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:17:f2:ce:65:ba media: autoselect status: inactive supported media: autoselect 10baseT/UTP half-duplex 10baseT/UTP full-duplex 10baseT/UTP full-duplex,hw-loopback 10baseT/UTP full-duplex,flow-control 100baseTX half-duplex 100baseTX full-duplex 100baseTX full-duplex,hw-loopback 100baseTX full-duplex,flow-control 1000baseT full-duplex 1000baseT full-duplex,hw-loopback 1000baseT full-duplex,flow-control none fw0: flags=8822BROADCAST,SMART,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 2030 lladdr 00:19:e3:ff:fe:22:6b:5c media: autoselect full-duplex status: inactive supported media: autoselect full-duplex en1: flags=8863UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::219:e3ff:fe04:85c2%en1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x6 inet 10.0.1.2 http://10.0.1.2 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.0.1.255 http://10.0.1.255 ether 00:19:e3:04:85:c2 media: autoselect status: active supported media: autoselect vmnet8: flags=8863UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet 172.16.1.1 http://172.16.1.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 172.16.1.255 http://172.16.1.255 ether 00:50:56:c0:00:08 vmnet1: flags=8863UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet 172.16.74.1 http://172.16.74.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 172.16.74.255 http://172.16.74.255 ether 00:50:56:c0:00:01 Thanks in advance! -ls -- H. Lally Singh Ph.D. Candidate, Computer Science Virginia Tech ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
I used to have kernel panics too, and it was due to an incomplete download on my side. finished the download with wget -c and flashed again and everything was working great. hope its something like that and you solve your issue Shawn Thompson escribió: David, This looks like a great image idea for having a prepackaged all-in-one. The only problem I found is that for some reason I kept getting kernel panics so I'm back off to stock OM2008.8 for now but will try downloading and flashing again tonight. -Shawn David Samblas wrote: Hi there, you have aviable on http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM a rootfs/kenel image ready to flash of an OM2008.08-updates distribution with some apps already installed and some fixes posted in the lists done. here you have more detailed information http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM/README.txt I recommend you to use wget -c to retrieve the files because of the server seems to cut the connection time to time, a most robust mirror is on the way Sugesstions , comments, and anything else will be welcome Regards and a hug David Samblas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
