Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-06-04 Thread Chris Samuel
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:45:12 pm Paul Fertser wrote: Not sure if all the delays and actions are needed, it's anyway much faster than rebooting. Thanks for that Paul, but for now I've gone back to QtMoko now that some of the more frustrating bugs have apparently been fixed. Will keep an eye on

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-06-01 Thread William Kenworthy
On Sun, 2009-05-31 at 18:15 +0400, Paul Fertser wrote: On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 03:47:04PM +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: ... Look at AUX led. Enable whichever loglevel for kernel you like. Boot a minimal kernel that will boot really fast. Not a bootloader problem. I probably have not

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-06-01 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 02:46:19PM +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: and the clincher for me was that the gain using Qi (faster booting) didnt seem very much ... so why use it all? There's also a much faster recover from suspend. Rui ___ Openmoko

Qi UI (was: Re: [Om2009] a community effort)

2009-06-01 Thread Paul Fertser
William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au writes: On Sun, 2009-05-31 at 18:15 +0400, Paul Fertser wrote: On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 03:47:04PM +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: ... Look at AUX led. Enable whichever loglevel for kernel you like. Boot a minimal kernel that will boot really fast. Not

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-06-01 Thread Paul Fertser
Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org writes: On Sun, 31 May 2009 09:17:30 pm Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Also: suspend is working much more reliably ever since the upgrade to Qi, so far I've only had to reboot because of that damn bug where suspend stops and no calls are doable (in and out).

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-31 Thread Paul Fertser
William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au writes: On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 21:07 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org wrote: Is Qi reliable enough already to migrate from u-boot? Yes no, fails to boot occasionally, and because it

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-31 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 3:50 AM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 21:07 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org wrote: Is Qi reliable enough already to migrate from u-boot? Yes r no, fails

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-31 Thread Fox Mulder
William Kenworthy wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 21:07 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org wrote: Is Qi reliable enough already to migrate from u-boot? Yes r no, fails to boot occasionally, and because it doesnt print

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-31 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 10:09:15AM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 3:50 AM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 21:07 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org wrote: Is Qi

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-31 Thread William Kenworthy
Not sure - raised it with Andy directly when he asked for comments - but it was not going to be fixed as it was works for me (booting failures) - this being him. And, as you know he was very against Qi printing anything informative to the user as it would take time and Qi was about speed, not

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-31 Thread William Kenworthy
On Sun, 2009-05-31 at 10:46 +0200, Fox Mulder wrote: William Kenworthy wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 21:07 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org wrote: Is Qi reliable enough already to migrate from u-boot? Yes r

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-31 Thread Paul Fertser
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 03:47:04PM +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: Not sure - raised it with Andy directly when he asked for comments - but it was not going to be fixed as it was works for me (booting failures) - this being him. And, as you know he was very against Qi printing anything

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-31 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 09:47, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: As far as I am aware its not maintained, though Andy did say he hoped he would be able to do so - I just checked the OM wiki page for it and see that there is a new download directory, but no information about progress

Using loglevel=8 to boot and then silencing the kernel (was: Re: [Om2009] a community effort)

2009-05-31 Thread Paul Fertser
William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au writes: On Sun, 2009-05-31 at 10:46 +0200, Fox Mulder wrote: I use QI for some months now and it never failed once to boot my neo. I also changed the version of qi some times to a newer version but this never changed the working state for me. :) So think

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-30 Thread William Kenworthy
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 21:07 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org wrote: Is Qi reliable enough already to migrate from u-boot? Yes r no, fails to boot occasionally, and because it doesnt print anything to screen you

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-28 Thread pike
Hi After I installed it, I used myself as a case study for a first time dummy user of om2009. As usual, I write down every question I encounter in real time, optionally with some emoticons; later, I add the actions I took in response to those questions and even later some thoughts to improve

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-28 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Hi Pike thanks for your great review, you have very good observations there! r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-28 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 14:18, pike pike-openm...@kw.nl wrote: Hi After I installed it, I used myself as a case study for a first time dummy user of om2009. As usual, I write down every question I encounter in real time, optionally with some emoticons; later, I add the actions I took in

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-28 Thread pike
Hi http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Pike/OM2009_first_run Well, about first question - don't use u-boot, try Qi, and it will boot on short click :P oh great - and i hadn't even noticed :-D qi is going to be the default bootloader - so i removed the question. kewl, *-pike

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-28 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 05:03:36PM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 14:18, pike pike-openm...@kw.nl wrote: Hi After I installed it, I used myself as a case study for a first time dummy user of om2009. As usual, I write down every question I encounter in real

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-28 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org wrote: Is Qi reliable enough already to migrate from u-boot? Yes r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-28 Thread Goffi
On jeudi 28 mai 2009 20:35:07 Peter Stumm wrote: i want to start om2009 from sd card with qi my first partition is 512 MB ext3 where I have unziped om2009 second partition is 256mb swap third is the remain, also ext3 but qi always starts from nand where is the fault ? Have you renamed

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-28 Thread Peter Stumm
sorry forgot .bin Am Donnerstag, den 28.05.2009, 20:46 +0200 schrieb Goffi: On jeudi 28 mai 2009 20:35:07 Peter Stumm wrote: i want to start om2009 from sd card with qi my first partition is 512 MB ext3 where I have unziped om2009 second partition is 256mb swap third is the

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-20 Thread pike
Hi How can you help? OK, I am inclined to try that. So I've installed om2009/paroli without major problems, now. This is the distro to ship on new hardware, correct ? The first impressions are important then - I do remember 'unpacking my openmoko' - the wrapper of the black cardboard box

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-20 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:35 PM, pike pike-openm...@kw.nl wrote: This is the distro to ship on new hardware, correct ? The first impressions are important then - I do remember 'unpacking my openmoko' - the wrapper of the black cardboard box being just as green as the progress bar when first

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-18 Thread Michael Pilgermann
for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org CC: de...@lists.openmoko.org de...@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: Re: [Om2009] a community effort Community: if you want to write some opimd support (for instance in Paroli) or improve opimd itself, please contact me. It was hard

[Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-16 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hey there, A lot has happened over the past couple of months, but most important in my mind has been getting OM2009 out into the hands of the community. When we set the very limited goals of OM2009 we had two goals in mind: 1. Give those members of the community who only wanted a daily

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-16 Thread pike
Hi How can you help? OK, I am inclined to try that. Installations instructions say http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 If you have not upgraded the GSM firmware do that too but it doesnt say which version of firmware needs upgrading, or any way to check your current firmware version,

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-16 Thread Johny Tenfinger
Community: if you want to write some opimd support (for instance in Paroli) or improve opimd itself, please contact me. It was hard to understand everything, but now, after fixing Contacts domain, I think I can give you some useful knowledge :) I have also few nice and helpful python test scrips.

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-16 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, pike wrote: OK, I am inclined to try that. Yay :) Installations instructions say http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 If you have not upgraded the GSM firmware do that too but it doesnt say which version of firmware needs upgrading, or any way to check your current firmware

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-16 Thread Johny Tenfinger
On 5/16/09, pike pike-openm...@kw.nl wrote: Hi How can you help? OK, I am inclined to try that. Installations instructions say http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 If you have not upgraded the GSM firmware do that too but it doesnt say which version of firmware needs upgrading, or

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-16 Thread arne anka
but it doesnt say which version of firmware needs upgrading, or any way to check your current firmware version, neither on the Flashing page; the flashing issue has been discussed so much the last few weeks that i honestly do not understand, how you can come up with the questions again. the

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-16 Thread pike
Hi Is upgrading the firmware required to install 2009/testing ? No, updating the firmware will give you a more stable system but it is not a must. And I assume I can do it later, when its even more monkeyfriendly. Don't worry, flashing is safe. It's a scary read. And I don't have a

GSM Firmware upgrade (was: Re: [Om2009] a community effort)

2009-05-16 Thread Paul Fertser
pike pike-openm...@kw.nl writes: The instructions on the Flashing page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing sound very scary, and I am not inclined to do that yet. Is upgrading the frimware required to install 2009/testing ? My hardware has been fine using QTExtended. Upgrading GSM

Re: GSM Firmware upgrade (was: Re: [Om2009] a community effort)

2009-05-16 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/5/16 Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com: pike pike-openm...@kw.nl writes: The instructions on the Flashing page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing sound very scary, and I am not inclined to do that yet. Upgrading firmware is not scary at all, and is especially easy with the uSD

Re: GSM Firmware upgrade (was: Re: [Om2009] a community effort)

2009-05-16 Thread Adam Jimerson
How big of uSD card is needed to use the image to upgrade the GSM Firmware? On May 16, 2009, at 4:56 AM, Paul Fertser wrote: pike pike-openm...@kw.nl writes: The instructions on the Flashing page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing sound very scary, and I am not inclined to do that

Re: GSM Firmware upgrade (was: Re: [Om2009] a community effort)

2009-05-16 Thread George Brooke
On Saturday 16 May 2009 18:13:39 Yorick Moko wrote: untar the image of http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing#uSD-card_Image and you'll know it... i'm quite sure 128MB will suffice the 512MB one, delivered with the FR surely will On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Adam Jimerson

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-16 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 11:50 AM, pike pike-openm...@kw.nl wrote: No, updating the firmware will give you a more stable system but it is not a must. And I assume I can do it later, when its even more monkeyfriendly. Cleaned the GSM Flashing wiki page a bit. See

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-16 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Awesome Mirko see this mail. Yes, it's an invitation for the community to start working on OM2009 and I take that since it comes from Openmoko, Openmoko has some resources to commit to enable the community to participate. Let's see where this'll take us! On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Mirko

Re: GSM Firmware upgrade (was: Re: [Om2009] a community effort)

2009-05-16 Thread Adam Jimerson
On Saturday 16 May 2009 01:33:38 pm George Brooke wrote: george-laptop~/openmoko/fluidā˜®:du -h flash-moko11-2.image 271Mflash-moko11-2.image I think you'll need the 512meg one. solar.george Thanks, good thing I keep a hold of the 512MB one that came with my phone. -- We must plan for