On Thursday 24 April 2008 13:20:12 Carsten Haitzler wrote:
again - we could do better if we limited ourselves to just mpeg4 (which is
what
almost all phones do - they do only 1 codec or maybe 2), but the problem here
is that xv does not provide a way to do this sanely (stream just mpeg4 data
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Tom Cooksey
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On Thursday 24 April 2008 13:20:12 Carsten Haitzler wrote:
again - we could do better if we limited ourselves to just mpeg4 (which is
what
almost all phones do - they do only 1 codec or maybe 2), but the problem
here
On Monday 28 April 2008 10:32:22 Bin Chen wrote:
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Tom Cooksey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thursday 24 April 2008 13:20:12 Carsten Haitzler wrote:
again - we could do better if we limited ourselves to just mpeg4 (which
is what
almost all phones do -
I think this would be great..
Ideally it would not decode it completely, but simply encode the video
with some simpler compression...
Another question: if we skip sound, would the decoding be faster? By how much?
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Flyin_bbb8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
just thinking
ramsesoriginal wrote:
I think this would be great..
Ideally it would not decode it completely, but simply encode the video
with some simpler compression...
Another question: if we skip sound, would the decoding be faster? By how much?
As a datapoint, most VCD class mpegs/avis I had around
What if you could use one of those 'coming very soon' Laser projection
device(s) connected to USB ?
On Monday 28 April 2008 08:17:18 Flyin_bbb8 wrote:
just thinking out loud here, for example maybe you have some short videos
you want to show to some other people, so u can open an app that
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What if you could use one of those 'coming very soon' Laser projection
device(s) connected to USB ?
USB1.1 only (on the Freerunner)
And they are not cheap. (presumably)
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On ma, 2008-04-28 at 13:59 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What if you could use one of those 'coming very soon' Laser projection
device(s) connected to USB ?
You'd be looking at 12 Mbit/s max for the USB1.1, not fun.
Really peeps, face it, seems that the sane way to do non-crappy video on
Am Montag, den 28.04.2008, 15:12 +0300 schrieb Mikko Rauhala:
Really peeps, face it, seems that the sane way to do non-crappy video on
the Freerunner is to get driver support for that Glamo mpeg-4 decoding
(remember, the hardware is capable). Hopefully everyone's grasping at
straws makes OM
On ma, 2008-04-28 at 16:13 +0200, Jens Fursund wrote:
Is mpeg-4 decoding in the Glamo chip only video? Or could we use it to
decode audio as well to decrease CPU-time, thereby having more
batterytime for playing mpeg4 audio?
Video only.
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Jens Fursund wrote:
Mikko Rauhala wrote:
Really peeps, face it, seems that the sane way to do non-crappy video on
the Freerunner is to get driver support for that Glamo mpeg-4 decoding
(remember, the hardware is capable). Hopefully everyone's grasping at
straws makes OM bump up the
But isn't it still limited by the bandwidth available from the micro SD
card? Maybe I misunderstood that.
Basically what I'm curious about is if in the future someone does take the
time to figure out and write the appropriate driver for the glamo chip, will
we be able to watch movies on the free
On ma, 2008-04-28 at 09:26 -0500, Tim Shannon wrote:
But isn't it still limited by the bandwidth available from the micro
SD card? Maybe I misunderstood that.
Yes it is. It's just that sending mpeg4 packets to the glamo takes just
a _tiny_ bit less bandwidth than sending entire uncompressed
So generally, when all the drivers, and software are in place, the
freerunner is still going to be limited by how much of anything that needs
to be streamed off the SD card at one shot.
Maybe this was already posted, but what is the bandwidth limit? How many
MB/s, etc.
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:26:43 -0500 Tim Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
But isn't it still limited by the bandwidth available from the micro SD
card? Maybe I misunderstood that.
Basically what I'm curious about is if in the future someone does take the
time to figure out and write the
On Monday 28 April 2008 17:31:10 Mikko Rauhala wrote:
On ma, 2008-04-28 at 09:26 -0500, Tim Shannon wrote:
But isn't it still limited by the bandwidth available from the micro
SD card? Maybe I misunderstood that.
Yes it is. It's just that sending mpeg4 packets to the glamo takes just
a
On Monday 28 April 2008 17:40:38 Carsten Haitzler wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:26:43 -0500 Tim Shannon
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babbled:
But isn't it still limited by the bandwidth available from the micro SD
card? Maybe I misunderstood that.
Basically what I'm curious about is if in the
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:12:32 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
On Monday 28 April 2008 17:40:38 Carsten Haitzler wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:26:43 -0500 Tim Shannon
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babbled:
But isn't it still limited by the bandwidth available from the micro SD
card? Maybe I
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jens Fursund wrote:
Mikko Rauhala wrote:
Really peeps, face it, seems that the sane way to do non-crappy video
on
the Freerunner is to get driver support for that Glamo mpeg-4 decoding
(remember, the
Hi Christoph
Am Donnerstag, den 24.04.2008, 11:19 +0200 schrieb Christoph Witzany:
As I understood Video playback will be virtually impossible on the
freerunner, at least from the sd card (which is the only sensible
location to store videos on the neo ftm).
I did some testing on that with
Well, after doing a few tests, (mainly thanks to ahven and SpeedEvil
on IRC), the Neo can handle a 160x128 H264 (with CABAC) encoded video
at 40kbps with a 12kbps audio track. The fun comes in with the
scaling. Scaling to 320x240 with no frame dropping is possible if I
encode the video as baseline
Well, after doing a few tests, (mainly thanks to ahven and SpeedEvil
on IRC), the Neo can handle a 160x128 H264 (with CABAC) encoded video
at 40kbps with a 12kbps audio track. The fun comes in with the
scaling. Scaling to 320x240 with no frame dropping is possible if I
encode the video as baseline
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:48:53 + Federico Lorenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
Well, after doing a few tests, (mainly thanks to ahven and SpeedEvil
on IRC), the Neo can handle a 160x128 H264 (with CABAC) encoded video
at 40kbps with a 12kbps audio track. The fun comes in with the
scaling.
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 1:42 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
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On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:48:53 + Federico Lorenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
Well, after doing a few tests, (mainly thanks to ahven and SpeedEvil
on IRC), the Neo can handle a 160x128 H264 (with
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 03:09:51 +0200 ramsesoriginal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
I'm not an expert, so maybe this question is silly, but it just popped
to my mind: using mencod, couldn't you decode the video, store it in
decoded form and then you have onyl to copy it? If this would be
possible,
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:26:02 +0200 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL
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babbled:
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
what freerunner *IS* good at is nice high resolution still images. it is NOT
good at motion (animation). that's possibly the simplest way i know to
describe its
As I understood Video playback will be virtually impossible on the
freerunner, at least from the sd card (which is the only sensible
location to store videos on the neo ftm).
Please correct me if I misunderstood.
Well that could have the potential to kill the Freerunner as consumer
product.
I'm gonna still buy the freerunner when as soon as it
become avialble and I will work as hard as my
non-linux-freak life let me do it.
But I have to admit than this video limitation in the
neo's video has dissapoint me very deeply.
The good news is that I have been disapointed BEFORE I
have
As written by raster, you can play video at lower resolution. Also
implementing support for mpeg4 should help a great deal.
David Samblas Martinez pravi:
I'm gonna still buy the freerunner when as soon as it
become avialble and I will work as hard as my
non-linux-freak life let me do it.
But
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:19:37 +0200 Christoph Witzany [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
As I understood Video playback will be virtually impossible on the
freerunner, at least from the sd card (which is the only sensible
location to store videos on the neo ftm).
Please correct me if I
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:44:50 +0200 (CEST) David Samblas Martinez
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
I'm gonna still buy the freerunner when as soon as it
become avialble and I will work as hard as my
non-linux-freak life let me do it.
But I have to admit than this video limitation in the
neo's
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) schrieb:
snip
320x240 video would be sane possibly if the source is
internal flash instead of SD or maybe 802.11.
Well ... that is not so bad ... even if the fact that sd card cannot be
the source for is a bit sad ...
Well that could have the potential to
I know and I'm sorry if I was missunderstood I'm not
complaining about I will be unable to play video, I
complaining about Have a 640x480 resolution screen and
not able to play at 640x480 resolution.
Well more than complaining about this is that I
believe that with that cpu and graphical power I
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:06:32 +0200 Christoph Witzany [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) schrieb:
snip
320x240 video would be sane possibly if the source is
internal flash instead of SD or maybe 802.11.
Well ... that is not so bad ... even if the fact that
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:00:33 +0200 (CEST) David Samblas Martinez
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
I know and I'm sorry if I was missunderstood I'm not
complaining about I will be unable to play video, I
complaining about Have a 640x480 resolution screen and
not able to play at 640x480 resolution.
to, 2008-04-24 kello 19:20 +0800, Carsten Haitzler kirjoitti:
the graphics chip (glamo) can decode mpeg4
itself, but we dont have the time or resources to do this properly ourselves.
you are free to do it yourself as we provide all the code, but you would need
to
reverse-engineer the
I think the highest priority in general should be getting the proper drivers
written for the GPU on the Freerunner, it seems like such a waste to have
it, and not be able to use it.
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
to, 2008-04-24 kello 19:20 +0800, Carsten
Thank you for this answer. I think that this is the only (or one of a
few) firm in the world that treat this customers as *partner* no only as
*consumers*.
I know is not easy for a firm to speak about *defects* of a product that
their are starting to produce, but in my opinion is better so,
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
what freerunner *IS* good at is nice high resolution still images. it is NOT
good at motion (animation). that's possibly the simplest way i know to describe
its graphics :) great for ebook and text reading. great for your high-res
photos. don't expect a
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