Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? - SOLVED ?
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:01:29 -0700 Nathan Kinkade [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: the info on the wiki is mostly misleading when it comes to the keyboard and what to do or how it works. beware. i need to write up a full list of all the things illume can do, does and what you are currently limited in (and what you can hack around with but you'll be entering world of hurt area etc.). Terminal.kbd is what i renamed it too. as its really intended for use with terminals. default is the default kbd - more for the default use of the phone... plain english (sms, email etc.). Indeed, I too found out that the keyboard in default 2008.8 is only plain english, but I'm Dutch, and most of my texts would be in Dutch as well. So that makes that keyboard less than functional for me. BTW, as a test, I tried to type Laporte with the keyboard, since I heard from Leo Laporte that on the Iphone his name was very hard to type. And it seems that it's just impossible to type it on the Openmoko 2008.8 stock keyboard. I'm also going to test how to work with the keyboard when in a terminal mode, since I'm yet to be able to hit enter after entering a command. (typing the command works, but then pressing enter to execute it has yet to function for me) I could be doing something wrong, but I'm not sure. === Marcel de Jong -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/full-keyboard-for-Om-2008.08--tp681538p730880.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? - SOLVED ?
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Andreas Hennig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dont have the file /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/Full-QWERTY.kbd So I have the 2008.08 Then I upgraded the packages using Zeche's builds: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Download#Unofficial_builds_by_zecke I went with testing which should be more stable than development (I believe)... I upgraded to do the gprs mux: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GPRS#Option_1:_With_GSM_multiplexing_and_with_a_GUI ) And this is working great. Then I decided I better get the qwerty keyboard going. However, after upgrading all of the packages from above two steps I no longer have the file: /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/Full-QWERTY.kbd So, backing up this file is kind of step 1 in the process found at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard#Using_the_Full_Qwerty_keyboard So three things... 1) I hope these links and tying this information is helpful to someone I know I am much happier with my freerunner now, ymmv... 2) I think you may want to backup your files and do the keyboard before the other two steps... 3) Can anyone provide me with the Full_QUERTY.kbd file? Thanks so much! -Geoff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? - SOLVED ?
On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:39:10 -0400 Geoff Ruscoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: the wiki is misleading/wrong. Terminal.kbd is what you want - it's all installed by default. your problem is being able to use the illume kbd at all - you are stuck with the qtopia one as long as it feels like creating it. On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Andreas Hennig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dont have the file /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/Full-QWERTY.kbd So I have the 2008.08 Then I upgraded the packages using Zeche's builds: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Download#Unofficial_builds_by_zecke I went with testing which should be more stable than development (I believe)... I upgraded to do the gprs mux: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GPRS#Option_1:_With_GSM_multiplexing_and_with_a_GUI ) And this is working great. Then I decided I better get the qwerty keyboard going. However, after upgrading all of the packages from above two steps I no longer have the file: /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/Full-QWERTY.kbd So, backing up this file is kind of step 1 in the process found at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard#Using_the_Full_Qwerty_keyboard So three things... 1) I hope these links and tying this information is helpful to someone I know I am much happier with my freerunner now, ymmv... 2) I think you may want to backup your files and do the keyboard before the other two steps... 3) Can anyone provide me with the Full_QUERTY.kbd file? Thanks so much! -Geoff -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? - SOLVED ?
2008/8/17 Geoff Ruscoe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Andreas Hennig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dont have the file /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/Full-QWERTY.kbd So I have the 2008.08 Then I upgraded the packages using Zeche's builds: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Download#Unofficial_builds_by_zecke I went with testing which should be more stable than development (I believe)... I upgraded to do the gprs mux: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GPRS#Option_1:_With_GSM_multiplexing_and_with_a_GUI) And this is working great. Then I decided I better get the qwerty keyboard going. However, after upgrading all of the packages from above two steps I no longer have the file: /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/Full-QWERTY.kbd So, backing up this file is kind of step 1 in the process found at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard#Using_the_Full_Qwerty_keyboard So three things... 1) I hope these links and tying this information is helpful to someone I know I am much happier with my freerunner now, ymmv... 2) I think you may want to backup your files and do the keyboard before the other two steps... 3) Can anyone provide me with the Full_QUERTY.kbd file? Thanks so much! -Geoff I was bitten by this same issue of the Full-QWERTY.kbd file getting blasted by the updates described at the link you reference above (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard#Using_the_Full_Qwerty_keyboard), and in fact just yesterday I posted a note about this on a page I'm keeping at my site where I jot notes about fixing or improving my Freerunner: http://natha.nkinka.de/openmoko. In any case, I got the Full-QWERTY.kbd file back by simply downloading the tar-gzipped files for the 2008.8 release and cherry picking it from there: http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8/Om2008.8-gta02-20080808.rootfs.tar.gz Nathan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? - SOLVED ?
On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 10:56 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the wiki is misleading/wrong. Terminal.kbd is what you want - it's all installed by default. your problem is being able to use the illume kbd at all - you are stuck with the qtopia one as long as it feels like creating it. Thank you very much, backed up and replaced the Default.kbd with the Terminal.kbd and now the Full Qwerty keyboard comes up when I launch the terminal, or the messenger, etc. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? - SOLVED ?
On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:01:29 -0700 Nathan Kinkade [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: the info on the wiki is mostly misleading when it comes to the keyboard and what to do or how it works. beware. i need to write up a full list of all the things illume can do, does and what you are currently limited in (and what you can hack around with but you'll be entering world of hurt area etc.). Terminal.kbd is what i renamed it too. as its really intended for use with terminals. default is the default kbd - more for the default use of the phone... plain english (sms, email etc.). 2008/8/17 Geoff Ruscoe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Andreas Hennig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dont have the file /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/Full-QWERTY.kbd So I have the 2008.08 Then I upgraded the packages using Zeche's builds: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Download#Unofficial_builds_by_zecke I went with testing which should be more stable than development (I believe)... I upgraded to do the gprs mux: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GPRS#Option_1:_With_GSM_multiplexing_and_with_a_GUI) And this is working great. Then I decided I better get the qwerty keyboard going. However, after upgrading all of the packages from above two steps I no longer have the file: /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/Full-QWERTY.kbd So, backing up this file is kind of step 1 in the process found at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard#Using_the_Full_Qwerty_keyboard So three things... 1) I hope these links and tying this information is helpful to someone I know I am much happier with my freerunner now, ymmv... 2) I think you may want to backup your files and do the keyboard before the other two steps... 3) Can anyone provide me with the Full_QUERTY.kbd file? Thanks so much! -Geoff I was bitten by this same issue of the Full-QWERTY.kbd file getting blasted by the updates described at the link you reference above (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard#Using_the_Full_Qwerty_keyboard), and in fact just yesterday I posted a note about this on a page I'm keeping at my site where I jot notes about fixing or improving my Freerunner: http://natha.nkinka.de/openmoko. In any case, I got the Full-QWERTY.kbd file back by simply downloading the tar-gzipped files for the 2008.8 release and cherry picking it from there: http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8/Om2008.8-gta02-20080808.rootfs.tar.gz Nathan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08?
Please use this page. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard This page is new Olivier Berger ??: Dimitri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm with you, Dirk. This qtopia keyboard just doesn't function right. And switching .kbd files does nothing. Flicking only toggles the different views of the keyboard, none of which contain the enter or arrow keys. (Since we're throwing out essential keys, why stop there? Let's remove some letters too. I nominate the letter E.) I reinstalled matchbox, and I see it trying to come on, but it immediately gets cock-blocked by the qtopia keyboard. If someone could please explain how to disable the qtopia keyboard, I (and many others) would be most appreciative. And having : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ASU_Keyboard_Toggle#Reactivating_the_keyboard_toggle_under_ASU up-to-date would help, I guess. ... if this is what it's about... I'm not sure : ASU vs. 2008.8... Anyway, might help ? Best regards, ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? - SOLVED ?
I dont have the file /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/Full- QWERTY.kbd But after boot i can see the full qwerty keyboard to enter the SIM-pin and 1 sec later enlightenment crashes and afer recover the old keyboard is back :-( Am Monday 11 August 2008 schrieb Olivier Berger: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:10:20 +0200 Olivier Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: DooD [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm figured out why my above fix was only working on my asu build and not my om2008.8 need to install http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/illume_0.0+svnr196-r12 _armv4t.ipk this version seems to let me use whatever keyboard i like, which is how it should be. hope it doesnt magically disappear . . Would you care to elaborate on let me use whatever keyboard i like ? Maybe you may add a howto into http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ASU_Keyboard_Toggle ? Many thanks in advance. illume's code can use it's internal keyboard, do nothing at all (and just wait until some external keyboard is run - like qpe does) or run a keyboard process for you. it even will queue multiple keyboards if more than 1 was launched - but it works with a first-come-first-served policy there. the gui config is simple (chose none, internal default or some of N others). the gui will list any .desktop files it found that have Keyboard in the categories list for the .desktop. Thanks alot for these details. And glad some nice soul added details to : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard#Using_the_Full_Qwerty_keybo ard I call it an issue solved by the community while the support staff was on weekend break ;-) but of course this config dialog isn't really meant to be supported. not in ASU/2008.8 so it's more of a if you somehow find it and get it up - use at your own risk. :) You mean OM 2008.8 *is* supported ? ;-) ... sorry, couldn't help it. Well, more seriously : as it fixes a major usability defect of OM 2008.8, I'd expect it to be supported ! Best regards, ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? - SOLVED ?
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:10:20 +0200 Olivier Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: DooD [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm figured out why my above fix was only working on my asu build and not my om2008.8 need to install http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/illume_0.0+svnr196-r12_armv4t.ipk this version seems to let me use whatever keyboard i like, which is how it should be. hope it doesnt magically disappear . . Would you care to elaborate on let me use whatever keyboard i like ? Maybe you may add a howto into http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ASU_Keyboard_Toggle ? Many thanks in advance. illume's code can use it's internal keyboard, do nothing at all (and just wait until some external keyboard is run - like qpe does) or run a keyboard process for you. it even will queue multiple keyboards if more than 1 was launched - but it works with a first-come-first-served policy there. the gui config is simple (chose none, internal default or some of N others). the gui will list any .desktop files it found that have Keyboard in the categories list for the .desktop. Thanks alot for these details. And glad some nice soul added details to : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard#Using_the_Full_Qwerty_keyboard I call it an issue solved by the community while the support staff was on weekend break ;-) but of course this config dialog isn't really meant to be supported. not in ASU/2008.8 so it's more of a if you somehow find it and get it up - use at your own risk. :) You mean OM 2008.8 *is* supported ? ;-) ... sorry, couldn't help it. Well, more seriously : as it fixes a major usability defect of OM 2008.8, I'd expect it to be supported ! Best regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? - SOLVED ?
And glad some nice soul added details to : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard#Using_the_Full_Qwerty_keyboard Nice but after a reboot the fullqwerty has again disappeared and I have just the old keyboard back. I even lost the Full-QWERTY.kbd file?? It isn't there anymore. Where can I download this file again? signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? - SOLVED ?
I could reboot and still have the full querty... On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Rorschach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And glad some nice soul added details to : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard#Using_the_Full_Qwerty_keyboard Nice but after a reboot the fullqwerty has again disappeared and I have just the old keyboard back. I even lost the Full-QWERTY.kbd file?? It isn't there anymore. Where can I download this file again? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? - SOLVED ?
huh: after a second reboot the full-qwerty was back again?? this is confusing.. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08?
Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Olivier Berger wrote: And having : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ASU_Keyboard_Toggle#Reactivating_the_keyboard_toggle_under_ASU up-to-date would help, I guess. ... if this is what it's about... I'm not sure : ASU vs. 2008.8... Anyway, might help ? You're correct the wiki is out-of-date, you can now simply opkg install illume-config to give you the keyboard button (and the illume configuration button), I've updated the wiki to reflect this. Thanks alot. Updated ticket https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1654 then. Best regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08?
Hmm figured out why my above fix was only working on my asu build and not my om2008.8 need to install http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/illume_0.0+svnr196-r12_armv4t.ipk this version seems to let me use whatever keyboard i like, which is how it should be. hope it doesnt magically disappear . . Dirk Bergstrom-2 wrote: DooD wrote: The files you need to edit are under /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards I believe there is a Full-QWERTY.kbd in there, just backup the Default.kbd and replace it with the Full-QWERTY.kbd mv Default.kbd Defaultbackup.kbd mv Full-QWERTY.kbd Default.kbd /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart I tried this, but I still get the standard keyboard. Somewhere along the line I installed the illume package with the 'qwerty' icon. Maybe that has something to do with this? Also, I see this interesting comment in Default.kbd: # if the key out is in quotes - q for example, then this key is used for # typing words and can be part of a dictionary match, any other key when # pressed will end the dictionary match (u can disable dictionary # matching in # a layout by not having any outputs in quotes) So, that implies that if I can just get the system to recognize alternate kbd files, I can turn off dictionary matching, which would make me rather happy. Hmmm, waitaminnit, looking at the files in that directory, I don't think they control the standard 2008.08 keyboard. I'm talking about the one where you flick up/down to shift to other layouts. Sigh. I guess I'm still stuck with the irritating keyboard. What's it called? -- Dirk Bergstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://otisbean.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/full-keyboard-for-Om-2008.08--tp681538p684042.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08?
GREAT! now we only need a method to switch between the keyboards and it would be even better. Thanks a lot! y On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 3:40 PM, DooD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm figured out why my above fix was only working on my asu build and not my om2008.8 need to install http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/illume_0.0+svnr196-r12_armv4t.ipk this version seems to let me use whatever keyboard i like, which is how it should be. hope it doesnt magically disappear . . Dirk Bergstrom-2 wrote: DooD wrote: The files you need to edit are under /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards I believe there is a Full-QWERTY.kbd in there, just backup the Default.kbd and replace it with the Full-QWERTY.kbd mv Default.kbd Defaultbackup.kbd mv Full-QWERTY.kbd Default.kbd /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart I tried this, but I still get the standard keyboard. Somewhere along the line I installed the illume package with the 'qwerty' icon. Maybe that has something to do with this? Also, I see this interesting comment in Default.kbd: # if the key out is in quotes - q for example, then this key is used for # typing words and can be part of a dictionary match, any other key when # pressed will end the dictionary match (u can disable dictionary # matching in # a layout by not having any outputs in quotes) So, that implies that if I can just get the system to recognize alternate kbd files, I can turn off dictionary matching, which would make me rather happy. Hmmm, waitaminnit, looking at the files in that directory, I don't think they control the standard 2008.08 keyboard. I'm talking about the one where you flick up/down to shift to other layouts. Sigh. I guess I'm still stuck with the irritating keyboard. What's it called? -- Dirk Bergstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://otisbean.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/full-keyboard-for-Om-2008.08--tp681538p684042.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08?
DooD [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm figured out why my above fix was only working on my asu build and not my om2008.8 need to install http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/illume_0.0+svnr196-r12_armv4t.ipk this version seems to let me use whatever keyboard i like, which is how it should be. hope it doesnt magically disappear . . Would you care to elaborate on let me use whatever keyboard i like ? Maybe you may add a howto into http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ASU_Keyboard_Toggle ? Many thanks in advance. Best regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08?
On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:10:20 +0200 Olivier Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: DooD [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm figured out why my above fix was only working on my asu build and not my om2008.8 need to install http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/illume_0.0+svnr196-r12_armv4t.ipk this version seems to let me use whatever keyboard i like, which is how it should be. hope it doesnt magically disappear . . Would you care to elaborate on let me use whatever keyboard i like ? Maybe you may add a howto into http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ASU_Keyboard_Toggle ? Many thanks in advance. illume's code can use it's internal keyboard, do nothing at all (and just wait until some external keyboard is run - like qpe does) or run a keyboard process for you. it even will queue multiple keyboards if more than 1 was launched - but it works with a first-come-first-served policy there. the gui config is simple (chose none, internal default or some of N others). the gui will list any .desktop files it found that have Keyboard in the categories list for the .desktop. but of course this config dialog isn't really meant to be supported. not in ASU/2008.8 so it's more of a if you somehow find it and get it up - use at your own risk. :) -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08?
ok, I tried install the link http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/illume_0.0+svnr196-r12_armv4t.ipk, but it doesn't work out with the default repositories that are installed by default. I just added src/gz daily-armv4t-P http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/ in armv4.conf (...I guess raster hinted that this is not 'supported' repo) next opkg update and opkg install illume do the trick. Restart x-server and I have a configuration in illume-config to choose keyboards between none and default. None gives the default hh-feeling-sms-only keyboard. Default gives a full qwerty board (the one which appeared in last few builds of ASU). (It seems that I need to restart xserver for the changes to take effect). My next problem is how to add the number and default keyboard profiles to the keyboard provided by illume. I tried to find illume-keyboards-default, etc but don't which repo to find them in. I also tried to copy the .kbd(s) [from svn] into /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards but that crashed enlightenment. Any help --Vikas PS: I would love to be able to switch between the illume-keybd and hhh-keybd without restart X. On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 5:15 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:10:20 +0200 Olivier Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: DooD [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm figured out why my above fix was only working on my asu build and not my om2008.8 need to install http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/illume_0.0+svnr196-r12_armv4t.ipk this version seems to let me use whatever keyboard i like, which is how it should be. hope it doesnt magically disappear . . Would you care to elaborate on let me use whatever keyboard i like ? Maybe you may add a howto into http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ASU_Keyboard_Toggle ? Many thanks in advance. illume's code can use it's internal keyboard, do nothing at all (and just wait until some external keyboard is run - like qpe does) or run a keyboard process for you. it even will queue multiple keyboards if more than 1 was launched - but it works with a first-come-first-served policy there. the gui config is simple (chose none, internal default or some of N others). the gui will list any .desktop files it found that have Keyboard in the categories list for the .desktop. but of course this config dialog isn't really meant to be supported. not in ASU/2008.8 so it's more of a if you somehow find it and get it up - use at your own risk. :) -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08?
The files you need to edit are under /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards I believe there is a Full-QWERTY.kbd in there, just backup the Default.kbd and replace it with the Full-QWERTY.kbd mv Default.kbd Defaultbackup.kbd mv Full-QWERTY.kbd Default.kbd /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart Some of the keys, arrows, return, tab, shift, backspace are invisible... not to hard to find them *hint* try holding your finger on the keyboard until it zooms in. Arne Zachlod wrote: Hello there! i like the new look of the freerunner, but what i don't like is the keyboard. is there a possibility to re-install a full qwerty KB or something like that? navigate in terminal with the standard-kb is terrible. thanks, Arne ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/full-keyboard-for-Om-2008.08--tp681538p682407.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08?
DooD wrote: The files you need to edit are under /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards I believe there is a Full-QWERTY.kbd in there, just backup the Default.kbd and replace it with the Full-QWERTY.kbd mv Default.kbd Defaultbackup.kbd mv Full-QWERTY.kbd Default.kbd /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart I tried this, but I still get the standard keyboard. Somewhere along the line I installed the illume package with the 'qwerty' icon. Maybe that has something to do with this? Also, I see this interesting comment in Default.kbd: # if the key out is in quotes - q for example, then this key is used for # typing words and can be part of a dictionary match, any other key when # pressed will end the dictionary match (u can disable dictionary # matching in # a layout by not having any outputs in quotes) So, that implies that if I can just get the system to recognize alternate kbd files, I can turn off dictionary matching, which would make me rather happy. Hmmm, waitaminnit, looking at the files in that directory, I don't think they control the standard 2008.08 keyboard. I'm talking about the one where you flick up/down to shift to other layouts. Sigh. I guess I'm still stuck with the irritating keyboard. What's it called? -- Dirk Bergstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://otisbean.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08?
I'm with you, Dirk. This qtopia keyboard just doesn't function right. And switching .kbd files does nothing. Flicking only toggles the different views of the keyboard, none of which contain the enter or arrow keys. (Since we're throwing out essential keys, why stop there? Let's remove some letters too. I nominate the letter E.) I reinstalled matchbox, and I see it trying to come on, but it immediately gets cock-blocked by the qtopia keyboard. If someone could please explain how to disable the qtopia keyboard, I (and many others) would be most appreciative. Dimitri Dirk Bergstrom-2 wrote: DooD wrote: The files you need to edit are under /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards I believe there is a Full-QWERTY.kbd in there, just backup the Default.kbd and replace it with the Full-QWERTY.kbd mv Default.kbd Defaultbackup.kbd mv Full-QWERTY.kbd Default.kbd /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart I tried this, but I still get the standard keyboard. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/full-keyboard-for-Om-2008.08--tp681538p682554.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08?
Dimitri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm with you, Dirk. This qtopia keyboard just doesn't function right. And switching .kbd files does nothing. Flicking only toggles the different views of the keyboard, none of which contain the enter or arrow keys. (Since we're throwing out essential keys, why stop there? Let's remove some letters too. I nominate the letter E.) I reinstalled matchbox, and I see it trying to come on, but it immediately gets cock-blocked by the qtopia keyboard. If someone could please explain how to disable the qtopia keyboard, I (and many others) would be most appreciative. And having : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ASU_Keyboard_Toggle#Reactivating_the_keyboard_toggle_under_ASU up-to-date would help, I guess. ... if this is what it's about... I'm not sure : ASU vs. 2008.8... Anyway, might help ? Best regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08?
Olivier Berger wrote: Dimitri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm with you, Dirk. This qtopia keyboard just doesn't function right. And switching .kbd files does nothing. Flicking only toggles the different views of the keyboard, none of which contain the enter or arrow keys. (Since we're throwing out essential keys, why stop there? Let's remove some letters too. I nominate the letter E.) I reinstalled matchbox, and I see it trying to come on, but it immediately gets cock-blocked by the qtopia keyboard. If someone could please explain how to disable the qtopia keyboard, I (and many others) would be most appreciative. And having : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ASU_Keyboard_Toggle#Reactivating_the_keyboard_toggle_under_ASU up-to-date would help, I guess. ... if this is what it's about... I'm not sure : ASU vs. 2008.8... Anyway, might help ? You're correct the wiki is out-of-date, you can now simply opkg install illume-config to give you the keyboard button (and the illume configuration button), I've updated the wiki to reflect this. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
full-keyboard for Om 2008.08?
Hello there! i like the new look of the freerunner, but what i don't like is the keyboard. is there a possibility to re-install a full qwerty KB or something like that? navigate in terminal with the standard-kb is terrible. thanks, Arne ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
