...thx for your fast response
i had updated unity with ppa:vanvugt/unity when i tesed this but it still
stutters like before...
but i will wait for vv7 now and report if it will be fixed...
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Still no luck. I've updated from both of the PPA's - for Compiz and for Unity.
Compiz seems to be vv7 already:
Package: compiz
Versions:
1:0.9.6+bzr20110929-0ubuntu6vv7
(/var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_vanvugt_compiz_ubuntu_dists_oneiric_main_binary-amd64_Packages)
(/var/lib/dpkg/status)
Same with other combinations of these settings for that matter...
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same here...vv7 didnt fix my problem...its exactly like Bucic
said...animations work smooth...window dragging works fine for like 30
seconds after system reboot...then back to the stuttering...
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If some animations are smooth and it's only dragging windows that is a
problem then bug 773861 is probably a more appropriate place to look.
This bug is about ALL animations stuttering, which is a bug in the fglrx
implementation of Sync To VBlank. So if you still have issues with
Sync To Vblank
fix works great for me - ATI Radeon HD4800
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(like
ok...it worked for like half a minute after i installed the fix and
restarted my system...now i am back to stuttering window movement =/
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I think you might now be suffering from a different stuttering bug
caused by unrelated experimental fixes for other bugs in
ppa:vanvugt/compiz. I'm probably going to update the PPA soon to vv7, so
stay tuned.
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ppa:vanvugt/compiz. The unity PPA contains a fix for a severe
performance bug 861061, which slows down all compiz redraws in Ubuntu
11.10.
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Newbiest question: I have been using Ubuntu just for two months, and I'm
having this issue, so could anyone tell me how can I use the vanvugt's
fix? I've already added the repository, but don't know what should I do
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It's not fixed for me. I still get the very same behavior. A question.
If I'm suffering from another compiz-related bug can I stick to this ppa
and just wait for the compiz 'click' or do I have to dig into the other
bugs comments for specific solutions?
Right now I have this version of Compiz
Oscar, after you have added the repository (sudo add-apt-repository
ppa:vanvugt/compiz), you just need to open Update Manager (top right
power menu, 4th item down), click Check, then click Install Updates.
Bucic, yes you can stick with the PPA and you will still get the next
official package
I confirm that the fix from ppa:vanvugt/compiz (it is still not present
in the updates repository, and neither in backports) works under Oneiric
with fglrx 8.881-0ubuntu4.1 using Ati Radeon HD Mobility 3470.
But it seems that it had also a side effect: slowing down (maybe by
increasing the time
pazuzuthewise, the slow down is due to new code in ppa:vanvugt/compiz
that's not related to this fix. So you won't see a slow down when the
fix appears in oneiric-updates.
Can you please check what version of compiz you're now running? I
thought I had fixed the slow animation problems in my PPA;
I'd love a build in the PPA for Precise. ;)
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Thank you very much, Daniel.
These Compiz bugs exist together with the power regressionS in the
kernel for a over a year. Both affecting many Linux users out there.
Stupidity or sabotage. Sabotage unlikely? Well, it leaves us we the
other option...
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I agree they're all terribly frustrating bugs, which is why I have been
working on fixes for them.
However it's not accurate to say they've been there for over a year. Bug
861061 and bug 880707 are definitely regressions which only exist in
ubuntu 11.10. And bug 888039 might be caused by one of
Almost forgot bug 92599, which has certainly been a problem for several
years.
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Status: In Progress = Fix Committed
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@Daniel van Vugt
Sync to VBlank - OFF
Tear-free - ON or OFF - no luck with neither
Computer restarted after every change.
If it didn't help, could you at least push me into the right direction,
please? I've already spent a month fighting with this #$@% and I thought
my ordeal is over after I
Re my comment above.
Just tried a clean install. Just after installation - all smooth. Right after
updates - stuttering. Even without installing any fglrx.
and...
If it didn't help, could you at least push me into the right direction,
please?
should be
It didn't help, so could you at least
To the best of my knowledge, the right direction would be to start by
subscribing to these bugs, all of which are potentially related to
compiz stuttering...
Bug 888039: Compiz performance degrades (begins stuttering) over time
Bug 861061: [regression] Unity makes 3D apps run much slower:
On the whole situation:
Ubuntu team - truly laughable...
Daniel - thank you for your work!
I've just tried Daniel's PPA. Compiz updated, using AMD Catalyst 11.10.
After trying the default options with no success I tried many
combinations of them. Still no luck. The defaults I reverted to were:
@Bucic, To work around this bug you need:
In CompizConfig Settings Manager:
Sync to VBlank - OFF
Detect refresh rate - Is not relevant. But if you're interested then the
(future) fix for bug 880707 will bypass incorrectly detected refresh rates.
And I would recommend:
In Catalyst Control
If turning off Sync To VBlank in CCSM doesn't solve the problem then you
have a different bug to this one.
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To manage
Sorry for the offtopic, I noticed this update is part of unity 4.26,
when can we expect it to land in oneiric?
Thanks,
L.
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I don't know if the Unity team has an exact date in mind. The list of
things to be fixed for Unity update 4.26 appears to be just over half
completed:
https://launchpad.net/unity/+milestone/4.26.0
I don't think it's necessary to sync compiz updates with Unity, but that
appears to be the way the
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Hi,
Sorry for my English
Once the bug is fixed which is the ideal setting?
In Catalyst Control Center:
Tear-free -- ON or OFF?
Wait for vertical refresh - On or Off?
In CompizConfig Settings Manager:
Sync to VBlank -- ON or OFF?
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Once the bug is fixed, you should use the defaults: Tear-Free-Desktop:
off, Wait for vertical refresh: off, unless application requests
otherwise, Sync to VBlank (CCSM): on.
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Ok, no problem, I was just wondering why the patch wasn't applied yet...
now I have the answer.
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Thank you very much van Vugt, everyone using fglrx drivers needs this
patch.
But wouldn't be better to have this patch applied in the official Ubuntu
updates? What is the motivation which prevents us from doing this?
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** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided = High
** Changed in: unity
Importance: Undecided = High
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seems to me the fix is already applied to the -proposed version of compiz that
was upload two days ago. so anyone affected please test compiz proposed.
compiz (1:0.9.6+bzr20110929-0ubuntu6) oneiric-proposed; urgency=low
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I tried it yesterday, but it seemed not to be applied in compiz
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I can confirm this is NOT fixed in 1:0.9.6+bzr20110929-0ubuntu6
(proposed). However, it is fast again (as expected) with Daniel's PPA.
Please add this fix, there's more than two AMD users out there and they
would love to have better performance.
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It's definitely not fixed in -proposed yet:
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/oneiric/compiz
/oneiric-proposed/view/head:/plugins/opengl/src/screen.cpp#L1019
Don't worry, it's on my list of things to do this week.
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@Van Vught, can you upload a patched packages of compiz version
0.9.6+bzr20110929-0ubuntu6 in your PPA since the new version in the
proposed repository hasn't this bug fixed??
Any chance to have this bug fixed in the official Ubuntu updates for
Oneiric??
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OK, ppa:vanvugt/compiz has been updated. Please wait for it to build...
compiz (1:0.9.6+bzr20110929-0ubuntu6vv1) oneiric; urgency=low
* Rebased on oneiric-proposed version 1:0.9.6+bzr20110929-0ubuntu6.
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72 (smspillaz)
Could you explain that ABI breakage problem again, without sentence
breakage?
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@quequotion, smspillaz was just being very cautious and backed out the
first version of the fix because it changed a couple of header files at
a time when ABI compatibility was required.
While I argued that the header changes did not affect ABI compatibility,
it is now irrelevant. Because we have
I stopped using ubuntu due to this issue. The fact the importance is
undecided is laughable. Any bug affecting visual appearance or use to
any user has a high importance in regards to fixing imho
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I agree it should be high importance. Perhaps someone with sufficient
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Is anyone else still having this problem? I'm using fglrx on a Radeon HD
4670, and dragging windows around still only happens at 1 fps.
Of course, I'm also having numerous other problems, like compiz crashing
every time I maximize my browser window, and CCSM will randomly crash
the window
@eyeless1, maybe you are looking for this one
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/874514
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@vanvugt Thanks. Your ppa has solved my problem.
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** Changed in: unity
Milestone: 4.24.0 = 4.26.0
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** Also affects: unity
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
** Changed in: unity
Status: New = In Progress
** Changed in: unity
Milestone: None = 4.22.0
** Changed in: unity
Assignee: (unassigned) = Daniel van Vugt (vanvugt)
** Changed in: unity
Status: In
Thanks to Didier for clarifying... This fix missed the oneiric release
but will be in the first update.
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Indeed, we're currently only allowing crash fixes into the distro.
My sincerest apologies over the confusion with this, it was a good
fix, but breaks of the ABI breaks there was some confusion caused. The
non-ABI breaking fix will be in the next SRU.
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Daniel van
That's strange. The fix [1] is definitely in upstream compiz [2] and has
been for a couple of weeks. But it's missing from the core-0.9.6
release [3] and missing in the latest snapshots pulled into oneiric [4].
Sam, Didier, any idea why this fix didn't get pulled into core-0.9.6
or oneiric?
[1]
The fix is now available (but not tested) for oneiric in ppa:vanvugt/compiz
https://launchpad.net/~vanvugt/+archive/compiz
Let me know how it works out for you.
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Actually, it's still building in ppa:vanvugt/compiz. Try again in 30
minutes.
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The updated packages from your PPA fixed the problem for me (AMD Fusion
E-350) :-)
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It doesn't look like it will make it, so would you set up a PPA for
oneiric in the meantime?
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I am confused. Is this fixed in today's compiz update? It's not in the
changelog.
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Tried it. It's not fixed with the update compiz
1:0.9.5.94+bzr20110919-0ubuntu1, why the hell not? :(
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Please keep it civilized. Hopefully it will be fixed before Oneiric gets
released. Otherwise it could be marked as SRU.
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Not sure why it's missing because the new fix is dated earlier than
20110919. Probably just the bzr-git import pulling in dates from bzr
which are older than when the pull actually occurred.
Missing in oneiric:
The new fix has been (re)committed upstream:
http://git.compiz.org/compiz/core/commit/?id=6a32434a1f11e3c38db8df9f0aba3c9fa1ddaa25
** Changed in: compiz
Status: In Progress = Fix Committed
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OK, I have proposed a new version of the fix that will work upstream
without any changes to header files. So should be good to go in compiz
0.9.5 and oneiric.
But I still think the first version was API-safe too :)
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Here's a what the new fix looks like relative to upstream compiz. Much
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** Patch added: fix_slow_vsync_lp763005.patch
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/763005/+attachment/2406077/+files/fix_slow_vsync_lp763005.patch
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Good news. The new fix has been accepted into compiz-core so should go
upstream soon. And _hopefully_ will trickle down into oneiric before
it's released.
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Next cycle? As in 12.04? So that means regular AMD users that don't know
about the workaround will be rightfully moaning about slow Unity
performance for six more months then.
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Yes, it would be unfortunate if this fix was not in 11.10. Very bad for
user experience, and bad publicity for Unity and Ubuntu while the
desktop is so painful as described in this bug. Speaking of which,
Importance is still Undecided.
If the fix is not in oneiric, I'll put it in my PPA.
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I've just had a look at potential API compatibility problems and I don't
see any. Only global variables, typedefs, and one non-virtual function
was added. None of these should affect binary compatibility with the
existing compiz 0.9.5 code at all. Certainly, no member variables or
virtual
And the fix has been removed now:
http://git.compiz.org/compiz/core/commit/?id=c9081ea4424a5f7f43335f882a01e4b7d2384825
Sam; please let me know if it needs more work.
** Changed in: compiz
Status: Fix Committed = In Progress
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To clarify this fix breaks the API and will be in for the next cycle
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Daniel van Vugt vanv...@gmail.com wrote:
And the fix has been removed now:
http://git.compiz.org/compiz/core/commit/?id=c9081ea4424a5f7f43335f882a01e4b7d2384825
Sam; please let me know if it
Of course; the header file changed. I can only assume you would revert
it because no git branch exists for the next cycle yet?
In the mean time, this bug seems to be in a messy state In Progress
while the proposal is Merged already. What's the best way to clarify
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For now, leave it as in progress. My apologies for the confusion
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Of course; the header file changed. I can only assume you would revert
it because no git branch exists for the next cycle yet?
In the
Fix is committed upstream:
http://git.compiz.org/compiz/core/commit/?id=691b88ea9d8140f08a87aeae4f34fe076fd04565
** Project changed: compiz-core = compiz
** Changed in: compiz
Status: In Progress = Fix Committed
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** Description changed:
- This bug has now been found to affect users of fglrx and intel graphics
- drivers. It could possibly affect nvidia too.
+ This bug has been found to affect users of fglrx (ATI/AMD) and Intel
+ graphics drivers. NVIDIA users should look to bug 92599 instead.
TEST
I notice that when I use the latest FGLRX drivers from AMD (8.881), I
have to disable Tear Free Desktop in the AMD Catalyst Control Center and
enable Sync To VBlank at the CompizConfig Settings Manager.
Only then does my desktop run smooth.
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** Also affects: compiz-core
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
** Changed in: compiz-core
Status: New = In Progress
** Changed in: compiz-core
Assignee: (unassigned) = Daniel van Vugt (vanvugt)
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Well, I turned the sync to blank option on compiz and corrected the refresh
rate and the desktop is now usable. It was fast using Ubuntu on Virtualbox on
Windows!
Anyway, what I saw with glxgears is this: a constant framerate of 60fps! I
don't know if this is a coincidence, but it appears to me
Sorry to hear NVIDIA users are not benefiting. But I'm confident that
fglrx and some intel users will get joy from the fix. Because I've
tested those :)
P.S. NVIDIA users, I think you should be looking at bug 92599. That
describes the driver issue that tricks compiz into using the wrong
refresh
Revisiting this fix today... I discovered a similar (but different) slow
down when I switched to Intel graphics this week. So I'm updating the
fix for this bug to also address the framerate problem I found on Intel,
which really affects all graphics chips.
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** Description changed:
+ This bug has now been found to affect users of fglrx and intel graphics
+ drivers. It could possibly affect nvidia too.
+
+
+ TEST CASE:
+
+ Make sure Sync to Vblank is enabled in the OpenGL section of
+ CompizConfig Settings Manager.
+
+ fglrx: Drag some windows
** Description changed:
This bug has now been found to affect users of fglrx and intel graphics
drivers. It could possibly affect nvidia too.
-
TEST CASE:
- Make sure Sync to Vblank is enabled in the OpenGL section of
- CompizConfig Settings Manager.
+ Make sure Sync To VBlank is
The fix is now available for testing on natty using ppa:vanvugt/compiz
https://launchpad.net/~vanvugt/+archive/compiz
I have initially submitted this fix for lp:compiz to hopefully get it
into oneiric. If accepted then I'll happily propose it for natty-updates
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I'm also seeing all the same problems, including weird glxgears frame-
rates (which get better as the window gets bigger!) and unusuably slow
window resizing. GeForce 8400M GS, version 270.41.06
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Tested the patch and it changes absolutely nothing for me :(
My system:
- 64 bit natty
- nVidia Driver ver: 270.41.06
- Graphics Processor: GeForce GTX 480
I don't notice any differances. Moving wobbly windows (and so on .. )
is still very sluggish.
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@vanvugt awesome, thanks for looking into this!
Is it safe to come back over to Unity 3d now then? :)
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** Summary changed:
- Fglrx with Compiz's Sync to Vblank makes Unity/Compiz plugins to crawl
+ Compiz's Sync to Vblank makes display stutter/slow with some drivers (like
fglrx)
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After I had switched from ATI I found that the problem also occurs with
some NVidia cards. Initially everything is alright but after couple of
hours (NVidia 9600GT) the same strange thing is happening. Perhaps it's
some kind of general Compiz issue?
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Hmm, since the trigger for this bug is the behaviour of fglrx and it
could definitely be improved, best to leave the door open.
** Changed in: fglrx-installer (Ubuntu)
Status: Invalid = Confirmed
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