[Callers] Small challenges for experienced dancers, but easy for newbies

2023-09-14 Thread Sargon de Jesus via Contra Callers
New subject line because Dale’s comment reminded me of a question that’s been on my mind: what are some favorite dances, sequences, or figures that are slightly challenging for experienced dancers but don’t register as preferentially more challenging for beginners? In other words, these are

[Callers] Re: New Terminology Question

2023-09-14 Thread Dale Wilson via Contra Callers
Jeff says: I'll bite that bullet: callers generally shouldn't be calling a dolphin hey at a regular evening dance. And Amy says: It always helps to read the room first. Got a bunch of beginners? Call simpler dances, at least the first half. Explain them well. Don't call a complicated move that

[Callers] Re: New Terminology Question

2023-09-14 Thread Julian Blechner via Contra Callers
A lot of good points covered by everyone, but I'll just add: When I first suggested "facing star" as a replacement back 11 or 12 years ago, I chose it because the idea was the prompt should go hand in hand as being instructive, alongside the teaching of it - as Michael pointed out. (And because

[Callers] Re: New Terminology Question

2023-09-14 Thread Amy Wimmer via Contra Callers
It always helps to read the room first. Got a bunch of beginners? Call simpler dances, at least the first half. Explain them well. Don't call a complicated move that will discourage them. You want them to return, right? Baby steps, then walking, then jogging, then dolphin heys. Unless you have

[Callers] Re: New Terminology Question

2023-09-14 Thread Tony Parkes via Contra Callers
Bravo, Michael! (I’ve bolded, below, the point on which I want to agree wholeheartedly.) I’ve believed this for years, and had no way of knowing what percentage of active contra callers agreed. I dare to hope that, as Michael is known for writing and advocating difficult sequences, his opinion

[Callers] Re: New Terminology Question

2023-09-14 Thread Colin Hume via Contra Callers
On Thu, 14 Sep 2023 10:20:44 -0400, Jeff Kaufman via Contra Callers wrote: > I'll bite that bullet: callers generally shouldn't be calling a dolphin hey > at a regular evening dance. We certainly would in England. I would explain it as a hey for three with the ones (usually) acting as a unit,

[Callers] Re: New Terminology Question

2023-09-14 Thread Jeff Kaufman via Contra Callers
I'll bite that bullet: callers generally shouldn't be calling a dolphin hey at a regular evening dance. Jeff On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 10:14 AM Dale Wilson via Contra Callers < contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 3:11 AM Michael Fuerst via Contra Callers < >

[Callers] Re: New Terminology Question

2023-09-14 Thread Dale Wilson via Contra Callers
On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 3:11 AM Michael Fuerst via Contra Callers < contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > > dancers should need to understand the names of a dozen or so basic figures > (such as F, allemande, promenade, star, chain, right and left, circle, > shoulders round, hey, and

[Callers] Re: New Terminology Question

2023-09-14 Thread Michael Fuerst via Contra Callers
Jeff's suggestion of "facing star" works perfectly, and merits becoming the standard term used for discussions about and written descriptions of dances. However, such occasionally used figures must always be explained during walk-throughs, so the caller can designate, for the duration of the