I’m late enough to the discussion this may not matter, but:
I started to write about the beginners’ class I used to teach, and while doing
so I saw significant differences from others' lists of basic figures. I
realized that they’re importantly different things.
My class was about teaching
Nothing wrong with teaching a figure and assigning it a name for the
duration of the dance or duration of the program--even if that name is
commonly used elsewhere.I would suggest so-di-so, but an
immediate following or preceding do-si-do may well leave the dancers
confused and/or the caller
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Subject: RE: [Callers] Re: New Terminology Question
I partly agree, having contorted my brain listening to a well known caller
(“sh!”) describe a move then realise that
Hi all,
I think it is best to retain names like Petronella and Mad Robin
because it means that half the people in the room know what you mean and can
help the other half. If I start teaching the move without giving the name I
often find that some of the experienced dancers get
Many older square dance calls use the language "Sashay round your corner,
Sashay round your own." It is kind of a Dosido movement, but sometimes
shoulders vary.
In Modern Western Square Dance, a move similar to 1/2 of a Mad Robil is
called a Half Sashay. If you do a half Sashay twice, it is a
I am going to disagree, that there's no need to rename Mad Robin.
A lot of suggestions so far, unfortunately, can be interpreted as a dosido
or a sashay, or a slide. Mad Robin is the full rotating with eye contact
with person across. Omitting the latter by having the name imply only the
motion
>ok good point re it not being quite a mirror reflection... hmmm...
>
>maybe i'll try "side-slide do-si-do"
Hi,
As you likely know, an older term for do-si-do is "back to back", and "dos
a dos" is just French for "back to back"... so how about "side to side"?
regards,
ajr, dancing in and near
ah yes that is very good too, Ben, thanks!
I think your suggestion merits copying to the list
Sep 17, 2023 11:51:03 AM Ben Werner :
> What about “facing do si do”?
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>> On Sep 17, 2023, at 8:12 AM, Katherine Kitching via Contra Callers
>> wrote:
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>> ok good
ok good point re it not being quite a mirror reflection... hmmm...
maybe i'll try "side-slide do-si-do"
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2023 09:40:56 -0300 (ADT), Katherine Kitching via Contra Callers
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> I am about to introduce Mad Robins to my group for the first time in its 15
> year history (reminder, we are an island
> here in Halifax where 99+ percent of the dancers never dance anywhere
> else)
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What interesting timing for Michael to write "Some terms, such as Rory O'More,
petronella and California twirl should be banished for more descriptive
phrases--in this case "balance and slide/shift". "
I am about to introduce Mad Robins to my group for the first time in its 15
year history
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Jeff says:
I'll bite that bullet: callers generally shouldn't be calling a dolphin hey
at a regular evening dance.
And Amy says:
It always helps to read the room first. Got a bunch of beginners? Call
simpler dances, at least the first half. Explain them well. Don't call a
complicated move that
any for an activity that supposedly anyone
>> can join in without lessons. Some sequences – maybe even some moves –
>> should be reserved for workshops. I’m glad to see an influential modern
>> contra caller speaking out on this.
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Subject: [Callers] Re: New Terminology Question
Jeff's suggestion of "facing star" works perfectly, and merits becoming the
standard term used for discussions about and written descriptions of dances.
However, such occasionally used fig
On Thu, 14 Sep 2023 10:20:44 -0400, Jeff Kaufman via Contra Callers wrote:
> I'll bite that bullet: callers generally shouldn't be calling a dolphin hey
> at a regular evening dance.
We certainly would in England. I would explain it as a hey for three with the
ones (usually) acting as a unit,
I'll bite that bullet: callers generally shouldn't be calling a dolphin hey
at a regular evening dance.
Jeff
On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 10:14 AM Dale Wilson via Contra Callers <
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> On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 3:11 AM Michael Fuerst via Contra Callers <
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On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 3:11 AM Michael Fuerst via Contra Callers <
contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
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dancers should need to understand the names of a dozen or so basic figures
> (such as F, allemande, promenade, star, chain, right and left, circle,
> shoulders round, hey, and
Jeff's suggestion of "facing star" works perfectly, and merits becoming the
standard term used for discussions about and written descriptions of
dances. However, such occasionally used figures must always be explained
during walk-throughs, so the caller can designate, for the duration of the
Our community typically says "facing star":
https://www.bidadance.org/caller-welcome
On Wed, Sep 13, 2023, 9:58 PM Helle Hill via Contra Callers <
contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> With all the changes to the "old" terminology, I am wondering what a
> "Gypsy Star" is now called.
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