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From: Gwenole Beauchesne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] mmx and such
On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Oden Eriksson wrote:
I have to concur. Mandrake Linux won't even pass first boot on non i686
due
andre wrote:
On Friday 21 March 2003 15:18, Guy.Bormann wrote:
[snip]
It's not a matter of complaining or not, it's a matter of minimal
support. Mandrake Linux is supposed to run on any i586 or newer
processor. Period.
Even if that means a crazy person is encoding videos on a i586(no MMX),
say,
On Friday 21 March 2003 18:26, Oden Eriksson wrote:
If this bug hasn't been fixed yet, Pentium compatiblity doesn't seem
to be that important for Mandrake :-)
Exactly. And my point is that Mandrake cannot state i586 compability.
runs fine here on a k6-2, which is definately not i686
On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 14:57, rowland wrote:
On Friday 21 Mar 2003 10:18 pm, Pierre Jarillon wrote:
Le Vendredi 21 Mars 2003 18:20, Per Øyvind Karlsen a écrit :
does this bug applies to other than via c3's? I thought this bug only
existed in 9.0 due to the kernel detecting via c3 as an
On Saturday 22 Mar 2003 7:29 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
Actually this bug is a bug in the arch of the cpu it reports itself as
an i686 even though it's i586 this is a bug in the hardware not
necessarily in the kernel.
ok there is a bug in C3 cpu, but this would not be a problem if an OS
On Sat Mar 22 20:59 +, rowland wrote:
ok there is a bug in C3 cpu, but this would not be a problem if an OS that
claimed to be for an i586 cpu did not have that directory /lib/i686.
And the bug would also not occur if Mandrake dropped Linux and shipped
MandrakeFreeDOS. The root cause of
On Sat, 2003-03-22 at 12:59, rowland wrote:
On Saturday 22 Mar 2003 7:29 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
Actually this bug is a bug in the arch of the cpu it reports itself as
an i686 even though it's i586 this is a bug in the hardware not
necessarily in the kernel.
ok there is a bug in
[snip]
It's not a matter of complaining or not, it's a matter of minimal support.
Mandrake Linux is supposed to run on any i586 or newer processor. Period.
Even if that means a crazy person is encoding videos on a i586(no MMX),
say, 166MHz (or somewhere near) without hardware acceleration
OK, maybe this is a really dumb question - I won't even pretend that I'm up to
speed on the inner workings of building RPM's.. but would it be possible for
the RPM file on something like this to have multiple copies of the
appropriate library or binary in the package, and the choice of using
- Original Message -
From: Guy.Bormann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] mmx and such
[snip]
It's not a matter of complaining or not, it's a matter of minimal
support.
Mandrake Linux is supposed to run on any i586
Am Freitag, 21. März 2003, 16:43:22 Uhr MET, schrieb Oden Eriksson:
I have to concur. Mandrake Linux won't even pass first boot on non i686 due
to the /lib/i686 mess. Because of this Mandrake can not state that it runs
on i586 and later. What's the point with /lib/i686? It isn't possible to
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From: Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] mmx and such
Am Freitag, 21. März 2003, 16:43:22 Uhr MET, schrieb Oden Eriksson:
I have to concur. Mandrake Linux won't even pass first boot
Am Freitag, 21. März 2003, 17:42:59 Uhr MET, schrieb Oden Eriksson:
The programs should only use /lib/i686/lib* on i686 processors. Take a
look at your /lib directory, there are the i586 versions of the glibs
libs.
The problem, or the _huge_ bug if you wish lies in the fact that /lib/i686
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On Friday 21 March 2003 17:49, Götz Waschk wrote:
Am Freitag, 21. März 2003, 17:42:59 Uhr MET, schrieb Oden Eriksson:
The programs should only use /lib/i686/lib* on i686 processors. Take a
look at your /lib directory, there are the i586
- Original Message -
From: Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] mmx and such
Am Freitag, 21. März 2003, 17:42:59 Uhr MET, schrieb Oden Eriksson:
The programs should only use /lib/i686/lib* on i686 processors
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On Friday 21 March 2003 18:26, Oden Eriksson wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] mmx and such
Am Freitag, 21. März 2003, 17:42
On Friday 21 March 2003 15:18, Guy.Bormann wrote:
[snip]
It's not a matter of complaining or not, it's a matter of minimal
support. Mandrake Linux is supposed to run on any i586 or newer
processor. Period.
Even if that means a crazy person is encoding videos on a i586(no MMX),
say,
On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 07:27, Vincent Meyer, MD wrote:
OK, maybe this is a really dumb question - I won't even pretend that I'm up to
speed on the inner workings of building RPM's.. but would it be possible for
the RPM file on something like this to have multiple copies of the
appropriate
On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 07:43, Oden Eriksson wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Guy.Bormann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] mmx and such
[snip]
It's not a matter of complaining or not, it's a matter of minimal
Le Vendredi 21 Mars 2003 18:20, Per Øyvind Karlsen a écrit :
does this bug applies to other than via c3's? I thought this bug only
existed in 9.0 due to the kernel detecting via c3 as an i686..?
Look at : http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/errata.php3#viac3
This bug was reported just after the
On Friday 21 Mar 2003 10:18 pm, Pierre Jarillon wrote:
Le Vendredi 21 Mars 2003 18:20, Per Øyvind Karlsen a écrit :
does this bug applies to other than via c3's? I thought this bug only
existed in 9.0 due to the kernel detecting via c3 as an i686..?
Look at :
On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Oden Eriksson wrote:
I have to concur. Mandrake Linux won't even pass first boot on non i686 due
to the /lib/i686 mess. Because of this Mandrake can not state that it runs
on i586 and later.
Please, don't make broken assumptions and first check facts before saying
that.
On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 07:43, Oden Eriksson wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Guy.Bormann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] mmx and such
[snip]
It's not a matter of complaining or not, it's a matter of minimal
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Austin wrote:
New policy: it's okay to enable MMX instructions for multimedia
applications that are not in main, but a notice must be added to the
package description.
No. The policy remains the same as usual: any package (main, contribs)
shall run on any Pentium or newer
Okay, since nobody's too excited about automated local rebuilding of SRPMS (it
WOULD be a lot more work than it sound like, I admit), how about this for a
happy medium...
New policy: it's okay to enable MMX instructions for multimedia applications
that are not in main, but a notice must be
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