[coreboot] What's the relationship between ACPI and SMM?

2017-04-02 Thread Iru Cai
Hello, I'm trying to write some ACPI code to support an EC. I don't know if I need to write an smihandler.c for the boards. I saw some mainboard code. Older boards such as lenovo/x200 have no smihandler.c, but newer boards such as lenovo/x220 have. Also, I don't know much about things like GPE,

Re: [coreboot] Coreboot wiki: what license is the content under?

2017-04-02 Thread ron minnich
Could we, please, agree on what the question is; write the question; and ask a lawyer, preferably someone involved in the CC license creation in the first place? All this interpretation of legalese by coders is bound to end badly. So, first, what's the question? I've gotten lost in all this

Re: [coreboot] Coreboot wiki: what license is the content under?

2017-04-02 Thread Sam Kuper
On 03/04/2017, ron minnich wrote: > Could we, please, agree on what the question is; write the question; and > ask a lawyer, preferably someone involved in the CC license creation in the > first place? All this interpretation of legalese by coders is bound to end > badly.

Re: [coreboot] VGA and Graphics

2017-04-02 Thread ron minnich
As for graphics startup, here's what I learned when I was doing this in 2012/2013: the kernel could start sandy and ivy with no vbios needed. However, I have been told that the veil of secrecy has started to draw a bit closer in subsequent chipsets, and that something like a VGA BIOS/GOP has to

Re: [coreboot] Coreboot wiki: what license is the content under?

2017-04-02 Thread Sam Kuper
Hi David, Thanks for taking the time to write this. It was very clear. In the light of your email, and the part of the Creative Commons FAQ that you quoted, I am questioning my previous position. I will clarify what it was, in case anyone is interested. On 02/04/2017, David Hendricks

Re: [coreboot] VGA and Graphics

2017-04-02 Thread ron minnich
So, I'll mention go userland one last time, for a simple reason: I have it on good authority that at some places, saying you have a go userland instead of a c userland checks a check box on a security checklist. I think that's a sensible decision, having watched all the awful ways that C programs

Re: [coreboot] Coreboot wiki: what license is the content under?

2017-04-02 Thread David Hendricks
On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Sam Kuper wrote: > So, Creative Commons explicitly acknowledges that an adaptation of a > CC BY-licensed work can indeed be licensed under CC0 (or, at least, > that the adapter's contribution to the adaptation can be; which I note > would be

Re: [coreboot] VGA and Graphics

2017-04-02 Thread Trammell Hudson
On Sun, Apr 02, 2017 at 09:18:10AM -0700, Todd Weaver wrote: > [...] > One of the three reasons we are including TPM in hardware is because of > your great talk at 33c3 on Heads! I'm glad to hear that it inspired you to include it! > But I failed to see that it offered "boot menu type thing"

Re: [coreboot] Coreboot wiki: what license is the content under?

2017-04-02 Thread Sam Kuper
On 02/04/2017, Nico Huber wrote: > As the license doesn't de- > fine it, I can only assume that copyright applies. I agree that copyright applies, but AIUI, the rights granted in the license also apply. > And copyright doesn't > magically jump over to a translator, AFAIK.

Re: [coreboot] Coreboot wiki: what license is the content under?

2017-04-02 Thread Nico Huber
Hi Sam, On 02.04.2017 20:05, Sam Kuper wrote: > So, Creative Commons explicitly acknowledges that an adaptation of a > CC BY-licensed work can indeed be licensed under CC0 (or, at least, > that the adapter's contribution to the adaptation can be; which I note > would be the entire adaptation, in

[coreboot] Coreboot gamers?

2017-04-02 Thread taii...@gmx.com
Hey any other coreboot gamers? What are your specs, games do you play and on what settings? Me: I purchased my D16 specifically for IOMMU-GFX VM gaming, I have a 6274 with a geforce gtx 780 and the new highly multithreaded games work great on it - right now I am playing battlefield 1 and

Re: [coreboot] VGA and Graphics

2017-04-02 Thread Sam Kuper
On 02/04/2017, Todd Weaver wrote: > On 04/01/2017 04:55 PM, Trammell Hudson wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 01, 2017 at 07:43:40PM +, ron minnich wrote: >>> For a payload chooser and such I can offer two options: >>> 1) petitboot has a boot menu type thing >>> 2) u-root (u-root.tk) is

Re: [coreboot] Coreboot wiki: what license is the content under?

2017-04-02 Thread Sam Kuper
Hi folks, I do understand Nico's concern that my interpretation of CC BY 3.0 (see earlier emails in this thread) is inaccurate, and I think it is right that, having this concern, he should challenge me to back up my interpretation. However, as far as I can tell, my interpretation is consistent

Re: [coreboot] VGA and Graphics

2017-04-02 Thread Todd Weaver
On 04/01/2017 04:55 PM, Trammell Hudson wrote: > On Sat, Apr 01, 2017 at 07:43:40PM +, ron minnich wrote: >> Annnd with the linux payload we're back to linuxbios :-) > It was a good idea in 1999, and it is still a good idea. We *may* party like it's 1999 in 2017 then... >> For a payload

Re: [coreboot] VGA and Graphics

2017-04-02 Thread Zoran Stojsavljevic
>> Can we bypass the vbios/graphics within Coreboot and deliver the >> Linux kernel payload and use its graphics? > Yes, that would work. (In the case of Intel hardware) the Linux grap- > phics driver does a superset of the things the VBIOS does. Actually, > its default case is to ignore what the