Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold

1999-06-02 Thread YnrChyldzWyld
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, AOL User wrote: Under your logic, not only Christians trying to prove Christianity reduce their religion to superstition and idolatry (sic?) but pagans and Moslems, too, no matter (l) whether you are aware of pagans trying to prove paganism or not, and (2)

Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold

1999-06-02 Thread AOL User
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Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold

1999-06-02 Thread Stopforth, Jamie
they think they do. Jamie -Original Message- From: AOL User [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 6:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold -Caveat Lector- June you said: But to answer your question, ANY one

Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold

1999-06-02 Thread Kris Millegan
-Caveat Lector- Yo, Let us all please tone down. The posts were/are not an attack on people's faiths. Histories of religions are very much involved with conspiracy theory. Please let us take invective discussion off the list. The truth is for each to find in his/her own relationship with the

Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold

1999-06-02 Thread Ric Carter
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: YnrChyldzWyld [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, AOL User wrote: Under your logic, not only Christians trying to prove Christianity reduce their religion to superstition and idolatry (sic?) but pagans and Moslems, too, no matter (l)

Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold

1999-06-02 Thread Teo One Thousand
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/2/99 6:09:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Very nicely put Teo 1000. J2 Thank you sir. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not

Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold

1999-06-01 Thread Stopforth, Jamie
-Caveat Lector- What a bunch of drivel... from: http://www.truthbeknown.com/christ.htm A HREF="http://www.truthbeknown.com/christ.htm"The Christ Conspiracy/A - The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold Coming in June '99 from Adventures Unlimited - The book version of The

Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold

1999-06-01 Thread Stopforth, Jamie
-Caveat Lector- Again, just a bunch of drivel. We could discuss this matter further off the list if you wish... Jamie Here's additional info on a possible model for the Christ created by Eusebius and friends. -- Mark McHugh http://www.apollonius.net/contents.html

Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold

1999-06-01 Thread AOL User
-Caveat Lector- To associate the Lord Jesus Christ with pagan idols is essentially to deny his diety. Pagan idols were concocted because man did not want to know the real God and/or were fearful of him. Pagan idols hardly capture the loving and faithful fatherlike nature of God.

Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold

1999-06-01 Thread Stopforth, Jamie
-Caveat Lector- Amen! To associate the Lord Jesus Christ with pagan idols is essentially to deny his diety. Pagan idols were concocted because man did not want to know the real God and/or were fearful of him. Pagan idols hardly capture the loving and faithful fatherlike nature of God.

Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold

1999-06-01 Thread Yardbird
-Caveat Lector- An Astounding Revelation Saved From the Flames that Burnt the Alexandrian Library, which the Roman Churchmen razed to the ground to destroy all records of the "Mystery Man" of Christianity - APOLLONIUS OF TYANA - the Amazing to find such a precise determination of the cause

Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold

1999-06-01 Thread AOL User
-Caveat Lector- One can't expect much from someone who thinks "Christ is Borg" (www.truthbeknown.com). DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! These are sordid matters

Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold

1999-06-01 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
-Caveat Lector- From: AOL User [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 09:39:18 EDT To associate the Lord Jesus Christ with pagan idols is essentially to deny his diety. Jesus' 'diety' is solely a matter of FAITH, not 'fact'... Various 'pagan' religions feel that their particular diety or

Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold

1999-06-01 Thread Yardbird
-Caveat Lector- Jesus' 'diety' is solely a matter of FAITH, not 'fact'... Various 'pagan' religions feel that their particular diety or dieties are ALSO divine... Again, solely a matter of FAITH... True, as Kierkegaarde noted one must make a leap of faith. All religious constructs are

Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold

1999-06-01 Thread Stopforth, Jamie
there to observe either, one however requires a bit more. Jamie -Original Message- From: Ynr Chyldz Wyld [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 12:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold -Caveat Lector- From: AOL

Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold

1999-06-01 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
-Caveat Lector- Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 14:34:37 -0300 Again, solely a matter of FAITH... True, as Kierkegaarde noted one must make a leap of faith. All religious constructs are subjective and fideistic and, in my opinion, irrational and anti-rational. Credo quia absurdum est! But irrationality

Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold

1999-06-01 Thread Yardbird
-Caveat Lector- Sorry June, I didn't mean to imply that irrational/anti-rational faith was bad - in fact the opposite! I follow Kierkegaarde closely as his Christian belief is most akin to mine of all the philosophers/theologians I've studied; apart from Tertullian, who in many ways paved the

Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold

1999-06-01 Thread AOL User
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/1/1999 8:22:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: so-called Christians who spend energy on trying to 'prove' ANYTHING regarding Jesus cheapen the religion, and show the ULTIMATE disrespect to Him and to God... How is this

Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold

1999-06-01 Thread YnrChyldzWyld
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Stopforth, Jamie wrote: There's plenty of FACTS to back the existence of Jesus. Such so-called 'facts' are questionable at best, and it's a rare LEGITIMATE Biblical scholar who accepts them... But even if someone could prove the existence of a Jew named

Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold

1999-06-01 Thread AOL User
-Caveat Lector- One man's caress is another man's castration. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many

Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold

1999-06-01 Thread YnrChyldzWyld
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, AOL User wrote: so-called Christians who spend energy on trying to 'prove' ANYTHING regarding Jesus cheapen the religion, and show the ULTIMATE disrespect to Him and to God... How is this "cheapening" Christianity? What do you mean by that comment?

Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold

1999-06-01 Thread AOL User
-Caveat Lector- June, Under your logic, not only Christians trying to prove Christianity reduce their religion to superstition and idolatry (sic?) but pagans and Moslems, too, no matter (l) whether you are aware of pagans trying to prove paganism or not, and (2) whether you know who the god of

Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold

1999-06-01 Thread Mark McHugh
-Caveat Lector- Stopforth, Jamie wrote: -Caveat Lector- Again, just a bunch of drivel. We could discuss this matter further off the list if you wish... Jamie Here's additional info on a possible model for the Christ created by Eusebius and friends. -- Mark McHugh What is

Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold

1999-06-01 Thread Teo One Thousand
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/1/99 3:07:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There's plenty of FACTS to back the existence of Jesus. Research. It's a good thing. As for the faith part, whether you believe in God or the mathematical impossibility that we just

Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold

1999-05-31 Thread nurev
-Caveat Lector- Yardbird wrote: -Caveat Lector- personifications of the ubiquitous solar myth and whose exploits were well known, as reflected by such popular deities as Mithra, Heracles/Hercules, Dionysus and many others throughout the Roman Empire and beyond. The story of Jesus as

Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold

1999-05-30 Thread Yardbird
-Caveat Lector- personifications of the ubiquitous solar myth and whose exploits were well known, as reflected by such popular deities as Mithra, Heracles/Hercules, Dionysus and many others throughout the Roman Empire and beyond. The story of Jesus as portrayed in the Gospels is revealed

[CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold

1999-05-28 Thread Kris Millegan
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.truthbeknown.com/christ.htm A HREF="http://www.truthbeknown.com/christ.htm"The Christ Conspiracy/A - The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold Coming in June '99 from Adventures Unlimited - The book version of The Origins of Christianity and

Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold

1999-05-28 Thread Mark McHugh
-Caveat Lector- Here's additional info on a possible model for the Christ created by Eusebius and friends. -- Mark McHugh http://www.apollonius.net/contents.html === - - - Apollonius of Tyana : The Monkey of Christ?