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On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
On Jun 16 17:08, Henry S. Thompson wrote:
Corinna Vinschen writes:
[Corinna is BACK!]
I'll generate a new snapshot later today.
Hope you had a great holiday! You were missed.
Holiday was great, thank you.
And the snapshot is
install so I reinstalled my x86 one in order to test the
older snapshot releases.
Thread: https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2014-04/msg00539.html
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Warren Young wrote
There is an excellent tool for managing SELinux on remote machines, and
it is packaged for Cygwin. It is called ssh.
Perhaps you have a package to prevent idiots from answering here as well?
Install it please.
There
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 08:36:29PM +0100, Adam Dinwoodie wrote:
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 12:25:48PM -0700, Wes Kaefer wrote:
I agree, it probably does not have a virus; but it has a virus signature.
This is covered in the FAQ at
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
On May 7 16:46, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
On May 7 10:09, Chris J. Breisch wrote:
Corinna Vinschen wrote:
And here's a problem which I'm not sure how to solve at all:
When calling the latest mkpasswd, the primary group of the local
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Ken Brown kbr...@cornell.edu wrote:
On 5/8/2014 7:17 PM, Robert Pendell wrote:
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
On May 7 16:46, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
On May 7 10:09, Chris J. Breisch wrote:
Corinna Vinschen wrote:
And here's
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
On May 5 12:17, Chris J. Breisch wrote:
Corinna Vinschen wrote:
On May 5 11:23, Chris J. Breisch wrote:
In both cases, I am logging on to the machine with a Microsoft
Account: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/account/default.aspx
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 6:11 AM, Farrokh Razavi wrote:
hello
i have problem with Altera program monitor at win 8.1
not compile
error 0 [main] bash 3888 find_fast_cwd: WARNING: Couldn't compute FAST_CWD
pointer.
please help me
thanks
As mentioned already please refer to the problem
going to test again on a VM later on
when I get a few minutes to run the install though and verify. The
setup.log provided no appreciable information beyond what was provided
by the OP however if there is a way to up the verbosity I am more than
willing to re-run the install.
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are a
contributor) how to upload as well. The mailing list does have a
search function. Go to the lists page (http://cygwin.com/lists.html)
and choose the list you want to search. There is a nice search box on
each mailing list so that you can look for previous reports of an
issue.
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On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Andrey Repin ... wrote:
Greetings, Robert Pendell!
If you are using 32-bit Cygwin on 64-bit Windows it only ever sees the
contents of the SysWOW64 folder. You would need to run a 64-bit
version of Cygwin to see both contents at which point a mount wouldn't
of Cygwin to see both contents at which point a mount wouldn't
be necessary.
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of been that /bin was defined in the default path then later
removed but I don't know when. Otherwise it may of been intentionally
defined by the user at one point for an unknown reason.
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On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Andrey Repin wrote:
Greetings, Corinna Vinschen!
On Nov 2 23:54, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote:
On 2013-11-02 04:36, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
On Nov 1 23:23, David Rothenberger wrote:
With gcc-4.8.2-1
~
$ cygpath -ma ..
D:/cygwin/home
Robert@Shinji-PC ~
$ cygpath -ma ../test
D:/cygwin/home/test
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in 1.7.22
See this thread for more information but basically it was changed to
conform /.. path checking to posix standards.
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2013-05/msg00222.html
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/cygwin/cygwin-1.7.25-1.tar.bz2 wrong size
(2708993 actual vs 0 expected)
Cygwin is currently unusable, so sad...
Which mirror did you try? Did you try another mirror? I just checked
my private mirror and it shows fine.
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and not just to unpin it from the start screen.
Really though. This isn't a Cygwin issue. It's more a Windows 8
issue and there are plenty of forums for that.
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but my
hosting provider complained about the web traffic.
So I'm not aware of anyone offering this service.
cgf
I used to offer it ages ago.
Probably this thread is what he was referring to:
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-06/msg01155.html
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lpr was moved to the cygutils-extra package in order to reduce the
number of dependencies needed during base install.
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the file not found. Adding Attic/ to the path location behind
cygserver in the original url avoided the redirect. So it is safe to
say that cvsweb needed the POST vars but I have no idea why they are
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P.S. - I apologize if anything I just stated is obvious.
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Bash man page
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You may want to check for BLODA as well as doing the problem reports
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I would start by removing MKS Toolkit from your path. At least until
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port
and not 465 in this config. However 465 does work and likely works
fine in Outlook.
(*Resending as I forgot to change to plain text mode .)
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On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 3:29 AM, Paul wrote:
Robert Pendell shinji+cygwin at elite-systems.org writes:
If you can find the .tmp files then try deleting them and redownloading from
another mirror. It is possible the file is failing the validation check and
the installer is assuming
can find the .tmp files then try deleting them and
redownloading from another mirror. It is possible the file is failing
the validation check and the installer is assuming(?) an incomplete
file. I personally pull from the kernel.org mirror and it works fine.
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On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Bob Heckel wrote:
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Keith Christian wrote:
w3m works, but appears to run slowly after the last update. While
comparing the output of cygcheck -s -r -v I noticed some
differences.
Sorry you're having trouble. Strange, I did
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Saurabh T ... wrote:
Hi,
For various reasons, I cannot switch to rxvt or similar, and am stuck
using the cygwin bash shell (which runs on top of the dos cmd window).
Here, the background color defaults to black and foreground to light.
I reversed this
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Adam Kessel wrote:
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 9:33 AM, jojelino wrote:
if the SkyDrive is trademark of M$ and if it needs network connection to
remote server, it would piss you off like you have been experienced.
If it is the case, please stop using *Skydrive*
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On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Dave Korn wrote:
On 19/04/2010 19:31, Robert Pendell wrote:
First suggestion: Implement a prompt when a selected package has
caused other packages to be marked as well. This dialog would include
the newly marked packages with a Yes/No prompt if the user wants
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:33 PM wrote:
Thank you Robert Pendell! I wrote this shell script. Any suggestions
for optimization?
#!/bin/bash
if [ $# -eq 1 ]
then
echo Usage: elev program arg1 arg2 ...
exit 1
fi
prog=$1
shift
exec cygstart --action=runas `which $prog
and it
does prompt and elevate.
cygstart --action=runas /cygdrive/c/windows/system32/cmd.exe
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or
removed once it gets there. In other words there are no redactions
made after the post is committed.
Generally speaking though wanting to or actually removing/modifying
statements already made public draws extra attention and tends to
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names that BUILTIN goes by.
That is of course unless there is a more dynamic way of determining
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% of the time stock Windows. There
is never any need for a company to provide another ntfs.sys driver
file. If the trigger happened it was likely something associated with
the file but probably not that file itself. Maybe storage drivers.
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On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 6:12 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
On Jan 8 11:58, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
On Jan 7 16:23, Robert Pendell wrote:
$ ls -n /cygdrive/w
total 44M
drwxrwxrwx 1 4294967295 4294967295 4.0K 2009-11-04 03:20 Maildir/
^^
And that means
4.0K 2009-10-11 20:22 share/
drwxrwxrwx 1 4294967295 4294967295 4.0K 2009-12-06 21:57 svn/
-rwxrwxrwx 1 4294967295 4294967295 172 2009-12-24 23:55 test.sh*
drwxrwxrwx 1 4294967295 4294967295 4.0K 2009-11-30 11:19 tmp/
drwxrwxrwx 1 4294967295 4294967295 4.0K 2008-06-03 15:34 tools/
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that is correct.
You may be able to understand your script behavior better now.
$PARM1 is
$PARM2 is
$PARM3 is
$1 is PARM1=one
$2 is PARM2=two
$3 is PARM3=three
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On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Mark J. Reed wrote:
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 10:19 PM, David Arnstein wrote:
I have a bash shell script named xplo that worked as desired under
cygwin 1.5. It fails under cygwin 1.7.
Your shell script is incorrect, and I don't see how it worked under
1.5.
are getting forbidden errors on it then you
know why.
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On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:24:52AM -0500, Robert Pendell wrote:
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
I just found an unfortunate side-effect of the move of the Cygwin 1.7
release area. ??If you use the new setup.exe
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:56:23PM -0500, Robert Pendell wrote:
Well I use my own mirror too so I wanted to get it up to date anyways.
The warning does come up when the mirror is not on the list so that
is not the issue.
Are you saying
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 4:06 AM, Charles Wilson wrote:
for your enjoyment. It's based on public domain art; this version
released under a creative commons license (CC-BY-SA 3.0) which is GPL
compatible.
If ya'll like it, I might put it into cygicons.dll eventually.
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I like it. Oh
ram will cause memory corruption and make
programs or drivers fail to run properly. I have diagnosed BSOD
errors before and tracked them down to both faulty ram and faulty hard
drives. Using windbg to identify the culprit helps.
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cygcheck output.
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On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote:
On 12/03/2009 07:35 PM, Robert Pendell wrote:
Whenever I use ping it returns the message socket: Operation not
permitted. This only happens if I am not running the shell as an
administrator otherwise it works fine.. The windows
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:44 AM, John Morrison wrote:
On Tue, December 1, 2009 9:15 am, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
On Nov 30 20:53, Robert Pendell wrote:
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Angelo Graziosi
wrote:
Robert Pendell wrote:
P.S. - On linux (when I tested) TEMP, TMP, and TMPDIR were
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 11:32:43AM -0500, Robert Pendell wrote:
They are not reset but during an strace I discovered that cygwin will
internally default to the system defined TEMP if one isn't defined in
cygwin. In other words if it has
tested on.
P.S. - On linux (when I tested) TEMP, TMP, and TMPDIR were not set and
patch defaulted to /tmp.
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On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Ken Brown wrote:
On 11/30/2009 11:23 AM, Robert Pendell wrote:
Ken Brown wrote:
Nevertheless, it's somewhat startling to see permissions change as a
side
effect of patching a file. One simple way to prevent this is to unset
TMP
and TEMP in /etc/profile
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Dave Korn
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Ken Brown wrote:
On 11/30/2009 11:23 AM, Robert Pendell wrote:
I guess a side question here is if TMP does not exist then should it
be defaulting to the system wide TEMP variable, the one defined in
.bashrc
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Angelo Graziosi
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Robert Pendell wrote:
P.S. - On linux (when I tested) TEMP, TMP, and TMPDIR were not set and
patch defaulted to /tmp.
I noticed that too...
Ken Brown wrote:
That's precisely why I suggested unsetting TEMP
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
On Nov 28 19:12, Robert Pendell wrote:
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Angelo Graziosi wrote:
Corinna Vinschen wrote:
Fixes a few last-minute bugs:
Now, it seems that creating directories and files in some manner acquires
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Ken Brown wrote:
On 11/29/2009 3:19 PM, Ken Brown wrote:
On 11/29/2009 2:59 PM, Robert Pendell wrote:
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
On Nov 28 19:12, Robert Pendell wrote:
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Angelo Graziosi wrote
)
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:(F)
BUILTIN\Administrators:(F)
Successfully processed 1 files; Failed processing 0 files
The 2 additional permission lines on the second icacls run is what
causes the + to appear.
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/cygdrive/d/cygwin-1.7-downloads -P rsync -q
Note the lacking -r in this version.
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to the it just downloaded from the mirror
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this
time removing the remaining ones. I also had to go and bring up the
partial list to tell it to skip the previously removed packages and
ignore the warnings. Keep doing this until your packages are removed
and no more warnings appear.
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it would be highly appropriate to default to UTF-8 in
cygwin.
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On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 1:41 AM, Robert Pendell wrote:
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Robert Pendell wrote:
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Andy Koppe wrote:
2009/9/4 Robert Pendell:
During basic installation cygpath, mkpasswd, and mkgroup were all
detected by SONAR (part of NAV 2010
[Reformatted -- bottom posting]
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Lee D. Rothstein wrote:
Robert Pendell wrote:
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 1:41 AM, Robert Pendell wrote:
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Robert Pendell wrote:
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Andy Koppe wrote:
2009/9/4 Robert
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Robert Pendell wrote:
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Andy Koppe wrote:
2009/9/4 Robert Pendell:
During basic installation cygpath, mkpasswd, and mkgroup were all
detected by SONAR (part of NAV 2010) that it the files emitted
suspicious activiry and would
I apologize but I have not been following the mailing list too
closely. I was wondering on if Windows 7 support is officially in or
if it still is being tested. At this point I am running Windows 7 RTM
on my laptop and would be willing to try out anything that needs to be
done.
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their use to complete the install.
Thought to let you guys know about it. This may also affect NAV 2009
or similiar applications (Norton Internet Security, Norton 360).
If SONAR protection is off during the install it is ok at least for that.
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have switched to an alternative product which I have
used in the past.
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2009/9/4 Robert Pendell:
During basic
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Robert Pendell wrote:
I was trying to update cygwin but every time I do I keep getting errors
from setup-2.bz2. The error starts as follows...
http://cygwin.elite-systems.org//setup-2.bz2 line 5591: syntax error,
unexpected STRING, expected NL
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Corinna Vinschen wrote:
On Mar 23 17:35, Robert Pendell wrote:
Dave Korn wrote:
Robert Pendell wrote:
I was trying to update cygwin but every time I do I keep getting errors
from setup-2.bz2. The error starts as follows...
http://cygwin.elite-systems.org//setup-2.bz2 line 5591: syntax error
I'm sure the overwhelming positive response on the main list to this
package makes its acceptance into the distro a formality, really. +1.
cheers,
DaveK
I agree. +1 from me. I use it all the time. ;)
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going to poke around a bit first. This will be a normal install and not
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invoked as a login shell.
--login - Same as -l.
-c string - If the -c option is present then commands are read from
string. if there are arguments after the string, they are assigned to
the positional parameters, starting with $0.
http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#RTFM
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cscript //E:JScript desktop_shortcut.js
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It runs on 1.7 but does not appear to execute the shell as a login one.
I use bash and .bash_profile never gets executed when using MinTTY
directly. I can help you debug it if you wish.
I stand corrected here. I checked some more. The batch script (which I
forgot
: /usr/bin/sed: No such file or directory
/etc/fstab:
/bin /usr/bin binary 0 0
/lib /usr/lib binary 0 0
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Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 03:57:35AM -0500, Robert Pendell wrote:
I have attempted to install Cygwin on Server 2003 and it seems to fail
due to an improperly created /etc/fstab file. I have the errors created
during the initial load, the fstab contents (minus comments
is checked or not.
Fergus
Anything under _obsolete can be ignored. gcc is a dummy upgrade package
fro those using prior versions. tetex is an install helper. It does
not surprise me that they are being installed.
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On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 4:21 AM, Corinna Vinschen
corinna-cyg...@cygwin.com wrote:
On Dec 10 23:25, Robert Pendell wrote:
NOTE: Resending below message once. It got flagged as html the first
time around. Not sure if it made it though as it wasn't archived yet.
While setting up sshd
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 4:31 AM, Pierre A. Humblet
pierre.humb...@ieee.org wrote:
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From: Robert Pendell
To: cygwin
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 12:24 AM
Subject: cron_diagnose reporting errors while using cron-config
| While running cron-config I chose
or directory
grep: /ssh-host-config.4452/services: No such file or directory
/usr/bin/ssh-host-config: line 105: /ssh-host-config.4452/services: No such file
or directory
*** Warning: Adding ssh to C:umount: /ssh-host-config.4452: Invalid argument
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I forgot to mention the cygwin version so here is the whole setup as needed.
$ uname -a
CYGWIN_NT-5.1 Shinji-Winxp 1.7.0(0.189/5/3) 2008-12-09 14:20 i686 Cygwin
I also attached a cygcheck.out file.
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$ uname -a
CYGWIN_NT-5.1 Shinji-Winxp 1.7.0(0.186/5/3) 2008-08-15 15:17 i686 Cygwin
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Cygwin Configuration Diagnostics
Current System Time: Sun Aug 17 08:23:38 2008
Windows XP Media
file
Somehow I think that mkpasswd isn't intended to be run without arguments
but the help information from --help indicates that all options are
optional unless specified otherwise.
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) then I did a hex dump and it looks like it is
just a filler file that contains only hex 00 in it.
Any chance we might be able to fix this error in the installer. I can
tell this method was intentional but the error kinda threw me off. This
was using the latest cygwin 1.7 installer file.
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Simon Valiquette wrote:
| Robert Pendell un jour écrivit:
| If they scroll down the list they will see your mirror listed twice.
| They just need to select the second entry. Don't ask me why but I had
| this happen for my own mirror.
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| I got
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If they scroll down the list they will see your mirror listed twice.
They just need to select the second entry. Don't ask me why but I had
this happen for my own mirror.
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anyone else to be a master of
it but be rather knowledgable about what they are going into prior to
jumping in. There are some really bad and stupid questions to be had
out there. I know because I have answered some and only shook my head
while doing so.
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on the gold star.
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Christopher Faylor wrote:
| On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 01:32:29PM -0400, Robert Pendell wrote:
| Christopher Faylor wrote:
| I am running a new mirror checker on the cygwin web site. It should do
| a much better job of finding valid mirrors
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