On 14/12/12 11:21, Neil McGovern wrote:
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:26:53PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
- rather than publicly disclosing all the details, it may be possible to
identify somebody outside the DebConf team that all of us trust who can
gather the facts confidentially and report
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:26:53PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
- rather than publicly disclosing all the details, it may be possible to
identify somebody outside the DebConf team that all of us trust who can
gather the facts confidentially and report relevant facts publicly
For information,
[removing d-p from cc list]
Dear Ian,
I fully understand your desire for transparency. We appreciate
transparency as an ideal and being the Debian Project — independent
and guided by ideals — we can and should pursue it, if desirable.
However, transparency is not always desirable. As I am sure
martin f krafft writes (Re: Insider manipulation of DC13 site selection, and
apparent coverup):
I fully understand your desire for transparency. We appreciate
transparency as an ideal and being the Debian Project — independent
and guided by ideals — we can and should pursue it, if desirable.
On 13/12/12 16:42, martin f krafft wrote:
We even have some examples within our project where we willingly do
without full transparency because we acknowledge the need
(debian-private, security, some financials, etc.). In all these
cases, we (and others) build on a strong foundation of trust
For a period during the deliberations for DC13 site selection some
anonymous donors were offering money to Debconf on condition that
Vaumarcus was selected. This offer (actually a loan) was withdrawn
when the donors got cold feet.
These anonymous donors were in fact not third parties at all.
Ian Jackson writes (Insider manipulation of DC13 site selection, and apparent
coverup):
Switzerland is known abroad for many things. [etc]
It's been pointed out to me that that paragraph (which I have cut out
most of to avoid repeating it) unfairly tars the whole of Switzerland
with the same
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 11:54:05AM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
However, that DC13 team member did tell me that the DPL was fully
informed, with all the details, before the DPL approved the DC13
budget.
Please name names or facts to support this or, alternatively, drop it.
- My budget approval
Stefano Zacchiroli writes (Re: [Debconf-discuss] Insider manipulation of DC13
site selection, and apparent coverup):
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 11:54:05AM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
However, that DC13 team member did tell me that the DPL was fully
informed, with all the details, before the DPL
Stefano Zacchiroli writes (Re: [Debconf-discuss] Insider manipulation of DC13
site selection, and apparent coverup):
On the more general matter, that you are clearly still very much
interested in, you probably have noticed that I didn't change my mind
(i.e. un-approve the budget) based on what
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