Re: [Debconf-discuss] proposals for DebConf14 +

2013-01-17 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 09:14:19PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: Actually, it is very likely to end up being the same people (after all, those are the people who have the connections to industry), it's just that their focus would change to cover the whole of Debian and the subsequent 1 or 2

Re: [Debconf-discuss] proposals for DebConf14 +

2013-01-16 Thread Holger Levsen
On Dienstag, 15. Januar 2013, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: DebConf is just another Debian team. It only happens that it is a time that deals with a hell lot of money, on a yearly basis, when compared to other Debian activities. That is what requires special budget delegations and several of the

Re: [Debconf-discuss] proposals for DebConf14 +

2013-01-16 Thread Daniel Pocock
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 15/01/13 12:55, Philip Hands wrote: Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.com.au writes: Michael Banck mba...@debian.org wrote: Hi, On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 08:49:21PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: b) in lieu of the above, Debian itself would

Re: [Debconf-discuss] proposals for DebConf14 +

2013-01-15 Thread Michael Banck
Hi, On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 08:49:21PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: b) in lieu of the above, Debian itself would guarantee to contribute EUR 50,000 (or maybe more) to DebConf (currently it is cost-neutral for Debian) - so the bidders won't feel that they have to start with nothing each new

Re: [Debconf-discuss] proposals for DebConf14 +

2013-01-15 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Daniel, it would be great if you would inject these suggestions into the call for papers system of DebConf 13. I do not see in how far this is a hot topic for now nor do I think that mailing list discussion will really help to enhance the process drastically. Looking foreward to join your

Re: [Debconf-discuss] proposals for DebConf14 +

2013-01-15 Thread Daniel Pocock
Michael Banck mba...@debian.org wrote: Hi, On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 08:49:21PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: b) in lieu of the above, Debian itself would guarantee to contribute EUR 50,000 (or maybe more) to DebConf (currently it is cost-neutral for Debian) - so the bidders won't feel that

Re: [Debconf-discuss] proposals for DebConf14 +

2013-01-15 Thread Philip Hands
Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.com.au writes: Michael Banck mba...@debian.org wrote: Hi, On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 08:49:21PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: b) in lieu of the above, Debian itself would guarantee to contribute EUR 50,000 (or maybe more) to DebConf (currently it is cost-neutral for

Re: [Debconf-discuss] proposals for DebConf14 +

2013-01-15 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:55:55AM +, Philip Hands wrote: Debconf would not return the money to Debian. Debian would fund it by collecting the money from regular sponsors and also using surplus from previous events to smooth the cashflows for future events. E.g. Any surplus from .ch

[Debconf-discuss] proposals for DebConf14 +

2013-01-14 Thread Daniel Pocock
Clearly, everybody was frustrated at various times with the decision making processes from country selection through to budget approval and venue selection for DebConf13. Here are my suggestions about how it could be changed: a) only one-off sponsorship (e.g. local university or government