Re: Screen Reader

2021-07-30 Thread Chime Hart
Thank you DJ, I got all 152kb of it. Chime

Re: Screen Reader

2021-07-30 Thread D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
Jude's links config file in zipped format has permission problems. He gave me the file (or an old version) years ago, and I have it here: http://qsl.net/n1ea/lynxcfg.zip I just tested it and it will download. Best wishes, David On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 9:03 PM D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: >

Re: my lynx config file

2021-07-30 Thread Chime Hart
Sorry Jude, in the words of the 4Tops "Its the Same Old Song" Wonder if some portion of the file name is capitalized, but you think it isn't? Best of luck figuring this out, but yet I think 1 lister did grab it. Chime

Re: my lynx config file

2021-07-30 Thread Jude DaShiell
My mistake, my public_html directory wasn't world-readable. Anyone trying to download lynxcfg.zip shouldn't get an error 404 now. On Fri, 30 Jul 2021, Chime Hart wrote: > Well, Jude, I still get a 404 error. > Chime > >

Re: my lynx config file

2021-07-30 Thread Chime Hart
Well, Jude, I still get a 404 error. Chime

my lynx config file

2021-07-30 Thread Jude DaShiell
Please try a download, I think I may have fixed the file permissions.

Re: Screen Reader

2021-07-30 Thread D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
Just unzip Jude's file and using root, copy /etc/lynx/lynx.cfg to /etc/lynx/lynx.cfg.original Then copy Judge's file to /etc/lynx.cfg start lynx and enjoy. Thanks Jude. David On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 8:53 PM Jude DaShiell wrote: > my lynx configuration file is at: >

Re: Screen Reader

2021-07-30 Thread Jude DaShiell
my lynx configuration file is at: https://www.panix.com/jdashiel/lynxcfg.zip On Fri, 30 Jul 2021, Jude DaShiell wrote: > I could put my configuration file on my web page. > > > On Fri, 30 Jul 2021, Jeffery Mewtamer wrote: > > > I generally find text-mode web browsers annoying to impossible to

Re: Screen Reader

2021-07-30 Thread Jude DaShiell
I could put my configuration file on my web page. On Fri, 30 Jul 2021, Jeffery Mewtamer wrote: > I generally find text-mode web browsers annoying to impossible to work > with(The navigational hotkeys provided by Orca, NVDA, and JAWS are > just too darn useful), but couldn't some of the

Re: Screen Reader

2021-07-30 Thread Jeffery Mewtamer
I generally find text-mode web browsers annoying to impossible to work with(The navigational hotkeys provided by Orca, NVDA, and JAWS are just too darn useful), but couldn't some of the configuration hassles be alleviated by someone who has configured the browser to uplaod their config file

Re: Screen Reader

2021-07-30 Thread D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
I agree with Jude about lynx. However I'll add that I've tried to get the developer of Lynx to make the lengthy configuration easier on those of us who use screen readers, the configuration file is huge, and it can be made to work very well, but the amount of time it takes to read the file in a

Re: Screen Reader

2021-07-30 Thread Jude DaShiell
It may be a combination of devices like what's in a proper testing lab. On Fri, 30 Jul 2021, Ahmed Hassan wrote: > Well, if we know what device the demonstration will be done on, I believe > we will be able to make more reasonable adjustments >

Re: Screen Reader

2021-07-30 Thread Jude DaShiell
lynx configured properly makes web browsing from the terminal possible if not necessarily easy. With cursor turned on so it shows and links and form fields numbered and images identified by labels web pages halfway compliant are navigable. Probably some other settings I forgot. The links and

Re: Screen Reader

2021-07-30 Thread Jason White
If you're planning to run Debian, then Orca would be your best option. It's reliable for Web browsing, in my experience. The other possibility that you might be able to run under Linux is ChromeVox (the new version, not the now obsolete browser extension). The new version requires you to

Re: Screen Reader

2021-07-30 Thread Rob Whyte
Hi, Orca on Nix or Windblows you can use NVDA or a demo of JAWS. Good luck On 31/07/2021 4:51 am, Aaron wrote: I need to demonstrate the benefits of writing accessible html to my development group, and I'm wondering if anyone can recommend a good screen reader I can use. It doesn't have to

Re: Screen Reader

2021-07-30 Thread Didier Spaier
Hi Aaron There are also blind users of the Linux console. They most often use links or lynks and read the screen with espeakup, fenrir, speechd-up a hard synthesizer (with speakup) or a Braille display. Cheers, Didier -- Didier Spaier Slint maintainer https://slint.fr Le 30/07/2021 à

Re: Screen Reader

2021-07-30 Thread Adrian Orjales
And talking about terminal, espeakup and brltty are the most used and updated I think. But from terminal, the web browsing is difficult to perform El El vie, 30 jul 2021 a las 21:58, Jude DaShiell escribió: > VoiceOver can do things Jaws cannot. It's possible to interact with web > elements

Re: Screen Reader

2021-07-30 Thread Ahmed Hassan
Well, if we know what device the demonstration will be done on, I believe we will be able to make more reasonable adjustments

Re: Screen Reader

2021-07-30 Thread Jude DaShiell
VoiceOver can do things Jaws cannot. It's possible to interact with web elements using VoiceOver and that's the only screen reader I ever used that could do that. No Jaws is not perfect, that's why so many updates and the same holds for narrator and nvda. Both jaws and nvda need rather much

Re: Screen Reader

2021-07-30 Thread Ahmed Hassan
> > >i have used linux with orca long times > >orca is not perfect but are jaws or nvda perfect? > >or windows narrator? > >we should not talk about surfing the web with voiceover on osx > > Voiceover for macos is slowly becoming a joke. It's unfortunate really >

Re: Screen Reader

2021-07-30 Thread mattias jonsson
i have used linux with orca long times orca is not perfect but are jaws or nvda perfect? or windows narrator? we should not talk about surfing the web with voiceover on osx Den 30 juli 2021 21:46:31 skrev Adrian Orjales : The best that you can do is give a try to all of them. I am not apple

Re: Screen Reader

2021-07-30 Thread Adrian Orjales
The best that you can do is give a try to all of them. I am not apple fanboy, I prefer windows instead of mac os. Also I am sysadmin and I use all the systems including android and Linux, and all systems have good and bad things. Give a try to all of them, and you will see But in my opinion, NVDA

Re: Screen Reader

2021-07-30 Thread Ahmed Hassan
> > >orca and talkback are stable. > Orca has significantly less people working on it than other screen readers. Voiceover for ios can be considered as far more mature and refined than talk back. > > >only apple fanboys says anything else >

Re: Screen Reader

2021-07-30 Thread mattias jonsson
orca and talkback are stable. only apple fanboys says anything else Den 30 juli 2021 21:34:59 skrev Adri Orjales : Hi Aron I strongly recommend you to use NVDA. Under my opinion, is the simplest and most stable screen reader. Under Linux, there are not stable screen readers. Orca can be used

Re: Screen Reader

2021-07-30 Thread Adri Orjales
Hi Aron I strongly recommend you to use NVDA. Under my opinion, is the simplest and most stable screen reader. Under Linux, there are not stable screen readers. Orca can be used if there's no other option. Back to windows, Jaws is good but has a high learning curve. In terms of smartphones,

Re: Screen Reader

2021-07-30 Thread Jude DaShiell
Android: TalkBack out-of-the-box, speel, and commentari user-installed imports. Commentari from China and I don't mean Tiwan so you may want to be careful of that one. MS-dos provox user-installed needs supported hardware speech synthesizer. On Fri, 30 Jul 2021, john doe wrote: > On 7/30/2021

Re: Screen Reader

2021-07-30 Thread Aaron
On 7/30/21 3:05 PM, Ahmed Hassan wrote: > Well, a list of screen readers: > Voiceover (apple operating systems: ios, macos ETC) > Orca (linux screen reader) > NVDA (windows screen reader: free) > JAWS (windows screen reader: paid but has a free trial) > Kind regards: Ahmed Thanks Ahmed. Do you

Re: Screen Reader

2021-07-30 Thread john doe
On 7/30/2021 9:05 PM, Ahmed Hassan wrote: Well, a list of screen readers: Voiceover (apple operating systems: ios, macos ETC) Orca (linux screen reader) NVDA (windows screen reader: free) NVDA is very good to create and interpret HTML pages. -- John Doe

Re: Screen Reader

2021-07-30 Thread Ahmed Hassan
Well, a list of screen readers: Voiceover (apple operating systems: ios, macos ETC) Orca (linux screen reader) NVDA (windows screen reader: free) JAWS (windows screen reader: paid but has a free trial) Kind regards: Ahmed

Screen Reader

2021-07-30 Thread Aaron
I need to demonstrate the benefits of writing accessible html to my development group, and I'm wondering if anyone can recommend a good screen reader I can use. It doesn't have to be open source, but I'd like it to do a really good job of showing what is possible and how following the WCAG