Re: AMD64 Jigdo download

2006-10-20 Thread dtutty
On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 04:38:14PM +0100, Paul Tansom wrote: I need to update my ISO in order to install onto a new motherboard that has a nVidia nForce 430 chipset on it. I am hoping that the info on the nVidia site is accurate in that they are now in the kernel tree (including for AMD64!)

how do I interrupt an install?

2006-10-19 Thread dtutty
Hello, I'm in the process of installing on my new AMD Athlon computer. I'm on dialup. The new computer accesses the net via ethernet to my 486 which has a modem. Boot is via USB stick with the businesscard netinst.iso, Etch Beta 3 AMD64. The ppp connection drops occasionally and I sometimes

Re: how do I interrupt an install?

2006-10-19 Thread dtutty
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 09:23:01AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 08:46:14AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The ppp connection drops occasionally and I sometimes need the phone. When I got up this morning, the ppp link had dropped at 0130 but was back up but the

Re: how do I interrupt an install?

2006-10-19 Thread dtutty
On Thursday 19 October 2006 05:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm in the process of installing on my new AMD Athlon computer. I'm on dialup. The new computer accesses the net via ethernet to my 486 which has a modem. Boot is via USB stick with the businesscard netinst.iso,

Re: MB Asus M2N32 SLI Deluxe WiFi Edition and Dedian/GNU

2006-10-19 Thread dtutty
On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 01:33:53AM +0200, Thierry Chatelet wrote: I am planning to get the above mentioned MB, as someone any experience of installing AMD64 on it? Any feedback would be wellcome. Thanks Thierry I'm in the process (I'm on dialup so it takes a while) of installing on an

Re: off-site backup

2006-10-16 Thread dtutty
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 09:33:21AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 10:51:56PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm reviewing/planning for new offsite backup media and am wondering what people are using now. Previous discussions I found on lists.debian.org are a few

Re: off-site backup

2006-10-16 Thread dtutty
Just a reminder, reply to the list. I'm not sure which list you read it on, so I sent it to both. On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 11:06:22AM -0600, Cedar Cox wrote: It seems that USB sticks/flash-drives are far more rugged than anything other than paper. What have you found? Flash memory does

Re: off-site backup

2006-10-16 Thread dtutty
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 01:57:55PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 01:50:15PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Different types of flash memory have different cycle counts. I don't know how a memory chip gets translated into a 'drive'. Is it like a HDD with spare

Re: off-site backup

2006-10-14 Thread dtutty
On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 11:22:38PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 10:51:56PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm reviewing/planning for new offsite backup media and am wondering what people are using now. Previous discussions I found on lists.debian.org are a few

Re: off-site backup

2006-10-14 Thread dtutty
On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 09:51:30AM +0200, Thomas Steffen wrote: On 10/14/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can use small CD-R but they only hold 175 MB. Full-size CDs don't fit in the bank's box. How about this: * use DVD+R for backup * encrypt the backup * store in

Re: off-site backup

2006-10-14 Thread dtutty
On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 11:09:31AM +0200, Gudjon I. Gudjonsson wrote: Hi Excuse me, this is not amd64 specific Sorry, should I put it in debian-user? I would recommend rdiff-backup. There You could use a remote computer: Not an option for me. Thanks, Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: LVM root?

2006-10-13 Thread dtutty
On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 06:43:33AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Lennart Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You might want to stripe the volume for editing accross both disks. Lvm can do that without you having to resrot to raid0. Gives you more speed on file I/O. It's a per volume

Re: LVM root?

2006-10-13 Thread dtutty
In Debian, is it only the loss of / that requires a reinstall? What happens if /var (especially /var/lib) or /usr get corrupted? Doesn't that also make the system extremely difficult/time-consuming to restore? If I were to get a second 80 GB SATA drive so that I could raid1 /, might I just as

Re: LVM root?

2006-10-13 Thread dtutty
Sorry Len for the off-list post. Wrong 'to', no excuses. Doug. On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 10:11:19AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 07:14:01PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there other issues in choosing ext3 vs jfs? You might be able to install to JFS, but I am

Re: LVM root?

2006-10-13 Thread dtutty
On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 10:28:10AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 08:36:17AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Debian, is it only the loss of / that requires a reinstall? What happens if /var (especially /var/lib) or /usr get corrupted? Doesn't that also make the

off-site backup

2006-10-13 Thread dtutty
I'm reviewing/planning for new offsite backup media and am wondering what people are using now. Previous discussions I found on lists.debian.org are a few years old. I've been happy using 100 MB Zip disks; I can store everything except CD-iso images on one or two and put it in the bank's

Re: LVM root?

2006-10-12 Thread dtutty
Thanks Len, comments embedded below. On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 09:26:53AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 05:20:58PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The board itself has hardware SATA raid available. If I go for raid, then I'll ask here for the

Re: LVM root?

2006-10-12 Thread dtutty
On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 05:20:58PM -0400, dtutty wrote: On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 12:27:12PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 06:04:43PM +0200, Daniel Tryba wrote: Adding a disk creates an other copy of /, and with the newer kernels a raid5 array can be expanded, so

Re: LVM root?

2006-10-12 Thread dtutty
On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 04:35:02PM +0200, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) wrote: You suggest ext3 for the / system. Why would I not just use JFS for everything? It is often easier to repair have access to ext3 (which is ext2+journal) from a system you have booted from a live CD, just in case

Re: LVM root?

2006-10-11 Thread dtutty
On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 09:35:54AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: I thought etch now defaulted to tmpfs for /tmp meaning putting it in ram where it is faster, and backed by swap if needed. Isn't there a performance hit doing this? If a programme is putting stuff in /tmp to otherwise reduce

Re: LVM root?

2006-10-11 Thread dtutty
On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 10:15:22PM +0200, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) wrote: Le 08.10.2006 18:05:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a ?crit?: Obviously, I don't know how LV works internally. If the root filesystem get corrupted, how do I fix it from a recovery shell (e.g. the install USB) if its on an

Re: i386 or amd64?

2006-10-11 Thread dtutty
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 09:54:13AM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've just about finished building my new computer and need to decide which Debian port to install (i386 vs AMD64). Hardware: Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe motherboard AMD AM2 Athlon 64 3800+

Re: LVM root?

2006-10-11 Thread dtutty
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 10:35:03AM +0200, Manuele Rampazzo wrote: Ciao, Albert Dengg disse: On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 03:01:24AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Part. mount size == 1 /boot 32 MB 5

Re: LVM root?

2006-10-11 Thread dtutty
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 03:01:24AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Also amd64 has /emul/ia32-linux/ taking up some space if you need 32bit support libs. If I find I need them later (when did /emul get in the FHS?), can I put them on a separate LV mounted on /emul? Doug. -- To

Re: LVM root?

2006-10-11 Thread dtutty
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 09:20:06AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps more to the point, make sure you have room for several kernels in /boot. You don't have to uninstall a kernel in order to install a new one. If you are careful with your lilo, or grub, you can get a choice of kernels

Re: LVM root?

2006-10-11 Thread dtutty
On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 12:27:12PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 06:04:43PM +0200, Daniel Tryba wrote: with a generous 2Gb for / only and you never need to worry about it filling up. / is to valuable to lose. IMHO a single disk setup is a no go. new machines

LVM root?

2006-10-08 Thread dtutty
Hi, I'm planning the install of amd64 on my new box (Athlon 3800+, 1 GB ram, Asus M2N-SLI MB, one Seagate 7200 80 GB SATA drive). What are the advantages to using LVM for root? I'm concerned about methods of recovery if something goes wrong. If I don't do LVM root, here's my current drive

Re: LVM root?

2006-10-08 Thread dtutty
Having read this, I was unclear (its still morning here). I'll try to clarify. Thanks, Doug. On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 09:09:11AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm planning the install of amd64 on my new box (Athlon 3800+, 1 GB ram, Asus M2N-SLI MB, one Seagate 7200 80 GB SATA drive).

Re: LVM root?

2006-10-08 Thread dtutty
On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 09:41:31AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 09:09:11AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm planning the install of amd64 on my new box (Athlon 3800+, 1 GB ram, Asus M2N-SLI MB, one Seagate 7200 80 GB SATA drive). What are the

Re: i386 or amd64?

2006-10-08 Thread dtutty
Sorry for the off-list post. On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 01:11:08PM +, Edward Guldemond wrote: On 2006-10-08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Other than non-free stuff like flash and openoffice, is there anything in the main section of i386 that isn't in the main section of

Re: LVM root?

2006-10-08 Thread dtutty
On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 11:03:47AM -0400, dtutty wrote: On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 09:41:31AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 09:09:11AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm planning the install of amd64 on my new box (Athlon 3800+, 1 GB ram, Asus M2N-SLI MB

i386 or amd64?

2006-10-07 Thread dtutty
Hello, I've just about finished building my new computer and need to decide which Debian port to install (i386 vs AMD64). Hardware: Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe motherboard AMD AM2 Athlon 64 3800+ (The best AM2 not on long back-order) One 1-GB stick of 800 MHz ECC ram

Re: i386 or amd64?

2006-10-07 Thread dtutty
On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 11:21:43PM +0200, HXC wrote: My advice: go for amd64. It meets for 99% my needs (the other 1% can easily be done with an chroot envirnoment) Other than non-free stuff like flash and openoffice, is there anything in the main section of i386 that isn't in the main

Re: Fail to detect the Cd-Rw

2006-09-28 Thread dtutty
On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 01:15:01PM -0700, chindea mihai wrote: Hy, I tried to install the AMD64 OS version, on my PC, the boot worked fine, but when installer should Detect and Mount the cdrom, failed to detect any. I was wondering if there is any problem with my mainboard. I have an Abit

Re: MSI K9N Diamond main board?

2006-09-27 Thread dtutty
On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 11:43:44AM -0700, Andrew Sharp wrote: On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 04:26:30PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most reviews are for Asus but have heard comments about decreasing reliability after a couple of years. I've heard the same comments. Tyan has great

MSI K9N Diamond main board?

2006-09-26 Thread dtutty
I tried to search the archives to see if this has been answered but got 404 errors. Reported it to debian-www. I'm going to be buying a new main board and have a short list all based on the nVidia nForce 590 SLI chipset. At this point, I'm wanting some feedback on the longevety and reliability

Re: tyan board

2006-09-22 Thread dtutty
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 10:13:32AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 09:18:50PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm building my new computer and am ready to look at boards. I've settled on AMD AM2 socket. The Asus boards have always treated me well (although I have

Re: tyan board

2006-09-22 Thread dtutty
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 01:00:27PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 12:27:38PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well if you don't need video for anything other than the console and setting up, then onboard video certainly makes sense. Unfortunately it appears you have

Re: tyan board

2006-09-22 Thread dtutty
I received this from the Tyan automated tech support mail system. They say that the nVidia nForce chipset isn't supported in Debian. Does anybody know from the Debian perspective if this is true? What OS's are currently supported by the nVidia nForce Chipset? Here is a listing of the OS's

Re: tyan board

2006-09-22 Thread dtutty
Sorry Len, I sent it directly to you instead of the list by accident. (I know, no excuse for hitting the wrong key in mutt). On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 05:56:23PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: Support depends on the kernel version, not the distribution. The nforce pro 3400 is as far as I

tyan board

2006-09-21 Thread dtutty
Hello, I'm building my new computer and am ready to look at boards. I've settled on AMD AM2 socket. I don't do games but would like to transfer videos to DVD and watch DVDs (edit out commercials?) and other home use type stuff. For this, I want a good selection of USB, more than one SATA,

Re: Opteron or Athlon 64 FX?

2006-09-07 Thread dtutty
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 01:22:00AM -0500, Marc D.M. wrote: On Wed, 2006-09-06 at 19:57 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 10:11:52PM -0500, Marc D.M. wrote: On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 20:44 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 06:58:10PM -0500, Marc

Re: future of ATX?

2006-09-07 Thread dtutty
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 02:05:09PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 08:00:23PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The standard board/power/box form-factor has been ATX for a while. Does anyone see anything else on the horizon? I plan to buy a good case and power supply

Opteron or Athlon 64 FX?

2006-09-01 Thread dtutty
Hello, I'm starting to design my next computer before my current 486/P-II pair finally die. Any computer will do what I need 95 % of the time. Here's what I would like to do that I can't do now: scan, retouch, and store pictures from a digital camera watch DVDs on my big

Re: Opteron or Athlon 64 FX?

2006-09-01 Thread dtutty
On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 06:58:10PM -0500, Marc D.M. wrote: On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 18:19 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: scan, retouch, and store pictures from a digital camera watch DVDs on my big drafting monitor transfer my old VHS tapes to DVD and edit out commercials.