Re: Debian AMD64 - any 32bit compatibility?

2006-08-30 Thread A J Stiles
On Tuesday 29 August 2006 20:17, Thomas Steffen wrote: BTW: what happened to the many plans of running 32bit binaries without a chroot? In my experience, a chroot environment is a mayor PITA, and it is the one main reason that I would not recommend a 64bit system yet expect for the most

Re: Debian AMD64 - any 32bit compatibility?

2006-08-30 Thread tomek . fizyk
Użytkownik Gnu-Raiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał: I mean almost all the software that one needs is able to run in amd64 with ia32libs. Gnu_Raiz yeah.. almost, and that's the problem: almost. To tell you the truth, I have also an i386 version of Debian installed, because I sometimes need it (for

Re: Debian AMD64 - any 32bit compatibility?

2006-08-30 Thread tomek . fizyk
Użytkownik A J Stiles [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał: On Tuesday 29 August 2006 20:17, Thomas Steffen wrote: The fact is simple: any piece of software which will not compile cleanly on a pure 64-bit system IS BROKEN. Yeah... I would definitely agree with that! Tomek Kazmierczak -- To

Re: Debian AMD64 - any 32bit compatibility?

2006-08-30 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 09:17 +0100, A J Stiles wrote: [...] The exception to the rule-of-thumb is OpenOffice.org. Although it is Free Software, it is riddled with elementary mistakes, starting from the assumption that the processor uses a 32-bit word length and a 32-bit address space, which

Re: Debian AMD64 - any 32bit compatibility?

2006-08-30 Thread Bernardo Arlandis Mañó
Jan De Luyck escribió: On Wednesday 30 August 2006 00:18, Gnu-Raiz wrote: I think the real question should be what programs don't run with ia32libs, that can only be run in 32 bit chroot? I can only think of two really Open Office 2, and Firefox with flash plugin. Mostly the later because

Re: Debian AMD64 - any 32bit compatibility?

2006-08-30 Thread Gudjon I. Gudjonsson
Hi Add wine to the list, and maybe other non-free software like skype. I downloaded skype static library and installed on my amd64 part. It works perfectly except for the dead acute when chatting. The specific Icelandic characters did not work when I used it in chroot. Hope somebody is

Re: Debian AMD64 - any 32bit compatibility?

2006-08-30 Thread Thomas Steffen
On 8/30/06, A J Stiles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mixed 32 and 64 bit systems are a PITA however you implement them, be it through a chroot {the Debian way} or having separate /lib and /lib64 directories {the R*d H*t way}. And there should be no need to have them anyway. I agree that the

Re: Debian AMD64 - any 32bit compatibility?

2006-08-30 Thread tomek . fizyk
Użytkownik Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. How to use 32 bit programs in debian etch testing amd64? When I want to run any 32bit application that uses external libraries I get an error message telling that the libraries cannot be found. And I don't know

Re: Debian AMD64 - any 32bit compatibility?

2006-08-30 Thread tomek . fizyk
On 8/30/06, A J Stiles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To deny access to the source code of a program shows nothing but contempt for users, and we should not tolerate this blatant abuse. Yes, we should not... But there still are companies that make us (opensource software users) addicted to their

Re: Debian AMD64 - any 32bit compatibility?

2006-08-29 Thread Thomas Steffen
On 8/28/06, P|pex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need that chroot environment. You can read the how to [1] and build it :) [1] https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id271960 BTW: what happened to the many plans of running 32bit binaries without a chroot? In

Re: Debian AMD64 - any 32bit compatibility?

2006-08-29 Thread Gnu-Raiz
On Tuesday 29 August 2006 14:17, Thomas Steffen wrote: On 8/28/06, P|pex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need that chroot environment. You can read the how to [1] and build it :) [1] https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64 -howto.html#id271960 BTW: what happened

Debian AMD64 - any 32bit compatibility?

2006-08-28 Thread tomek . fizyk
Hi. How to use 32 bit programs in debian etch testing amd64? When I want to run any 32bit application that uses external libraries I get an error message telling that the libraries cannot be found. And I don't know from where I can get the 32bit compatibility libraries for my debian. For example

Re: Debian AMD64 - any 32bit compatibility?

2006-08-28 Thread P|pex
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Hi. How to use 32 bit programs in debian etch testing amd64? You need that chroot environment. You can read the how to [1] and build it :) [1] https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id271960 Bye

Re: Debian AMD64 - any 32bit compatibility?

2006-08-28 Thread Owen Heisler
On Mon, 2006-08-28 at 12:24 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. How to use 32 bit programs in debian etch testing amd64? When I want to run any 32bit application that uses external libraries I get an error message telling that the libraries cannot be found. And I don't know from where I can

Re: Debian AMD64 - any 32bit compatibility?

2006-08-28 Thread tomek . fizyk
Ok., Thanks, so I will try with chroot Tomek -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian AMD64 - any 32bit compatibility?

2006-08-28 Thread Santiago R. Lunar M.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Hi. How to use 32 bit programs in debian etch testing amd64? When I want to run any 32bit application that uses external libraries I get an error message telling that the libraries cannot be found. And I don't know from where I can get the 32bit compatibility