Re: a Debian executable on Android

Yes, but being unable to update the kernel is problematic. For example, android versions of kernels often lack features linux users expect, like iptables. Debian userland without ability to update host OS past vendor abandonment has issues. On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 7:28 PM Alan Corey wrote: > >

Re: a Debian executable on Android

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 10:28 AM Alan Corey wrote: > There are also odd ways of running Debian under Android like the > Debian kit. They use Android's Linux kernel and supply most of a > Debian userland. The trouble is it's pretty busy accomplishing > nothing in Android, the load average in

Re: a Debian executable on Android

There are also odd ways of running Debian under Android like the Debian kit. They use Android's Linux kernel and supply most of a Debian userland. The trouble is it's pretty busy accomplishing nothing in Android, the load average in Debian is pretty high. Search Debian on Google Play if you're

Re: a Debian executable on Android

On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 7:05 AM Tony Godshall wrote: > OK, so that's a precious short list Yes. For that to change we need either phone vendors to be convinced that mainlining their Linux kernel changes (including for obsolete phones) is a good idea, or for there to be enough people from the

Re: a Debian executable on Android

> Also, any device that has a yes in the mainline column for postmarketOS: > > https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices OK, so that's a precious short list, many not actual hardware, with two surprises (Sony). Generic Generic x64 uefi LG Nexus 5 lg-hammerhead Nokia N9 Nokia N900 Pine A64-LTS

Re: a Debian executable on Android

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 6:37 AM Tony Godshall wrote: > These do not seem to be available, where they ever offered? Not sure, but some future possibilities for running Debian on phones: https://shop.puri.sm/shop/librem-5/ https://necunos.com/ https://itsfoss.com/pinebook-kde-smartphone/ Also,

Re: a Debian executable on Android

> Well, there's the Ubuntu Phone, not pure Debian, but probably the > closest you can get on current hardware without rooting a device: > > https://store.bq.com/en/ubuntu-edition-e5/ > > and a Tablet is also coming: > > http://www.bq.com/es/aquaris-m10-ubuntu-edition > > I don't know how much this

Re: a Debian executable on Android

On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 10:57 PM, Peter Easthope wrote: > In summary, a moving target of proprietary hardware can > not be tracked effectively by a community of volunteers, > enthusiastic and energetic as they are. A necessary > condition for the communal approach is a relatively stable > open

Re: a Debian executable on Android

On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Alan Corey wrote: > Does build.prop do any good toward a device list? Completely unrelated to the Linux kernel as far as I can tell. > For that matter I'm not sure where a build.prop comes from, my guess > is an output from the kernel build telling what options

Re: Re (2): Correction: Re: a Debian executable on Android

Re (2): Correction: Re: a Debian executable on Android Yes, I was studying how to write apps but I'll be 62 in a few months myself, I may not live that long. Not to mention I've been trying to "repo sync" (git-based) their source tree for about 6 weeks to try to compile under OpenBS

Re (2): Correction: Re: a Debian executable on Android

FWIIW, access to most of the Daimler car2go vehicles here requires their app running on android or an apple device. Primarily for that, I purchased an XO Tablet. Apparently the fastest machine I now own. 2nd hand and under 50 US dollars. From: Alan Corey , Sat, 9 Apr

Re: Correction: Re: a Debian executable on Android

Aside from practical considerations of running under Android you're also going to have deal with their paranoia about such things, which is quite evolved. Every app runs as its own user in pretty much a chroot jail with limited permissions, that sort of thing. They use Java partly because it has

Correction: Re: a Debian executable on Android

Correction: A _refinement_ of the original topic. "... installation of debian armel or armhf or arm64 or similar, using one of the apps, "Linux Deploy" and "Complete Linux Installer"." Thanks, ... Peter E. -- 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789

Re: a Debian executable on Android

I've truncated the references. They can always be traced in the index page. From: Paul Wise Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 14:01:47 +0800 > ... each device vendor had their own boot mechanisms. More recently UEFI/ACPI > have emerged as the standard boot mechanism for ARM servers so we

Re: a Debian executable on Android

Does build.prop do any good toward a device list? Write something to import it? For that matter I'm not sure where a build.prop comes from, my guess is an output from the kernel build telling what options were selected. So is it possible to build a kernel keeping the necessary Android options

Re: a Debian executable on Android

On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Alan Corey wrote: > I haven't looked into it far enough, but why can't Linux use Android's > device drivers that already exist? Do the hardware manufacturers own > them? It doesn't seem like it should be that different from a video > card or a network card

Re: a Debian executable on Android

I haven't looked into it far enough, but why can't Linux use Android's device drivers that already exist? Do the hardware manufacturers own them? It doesn't seem like it should be that different from a video card or a network card driver. Google claims most of Android is open source. The pace

Re: a Debian executable on Android

On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 6:23 AM, Alan Corey wrote: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices Seems like all of these run a custom version of Linux that looks like it might be the Android version of Linux. -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

Re: a Debian executable on Android

There's a list of devices here that Ubuntu Touch runs on, including some Android emulators. Most of them old, they seem to want you to compile your own image and donate it back. Apparently you can submit a request on their mailing list. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices I'm not a big fan of

Re: a Debian executable on Android

Am Donnerstag, den 07.04.2016, 19:04 +1000 schrieb Andrew McGlashan: > >  > Given the security [or lack thereof, in reality] of both iOS and > Android, I would rather have Debian directly on a mobile. > Well, there's the Ubuntu Phone, not pure Debian, but probably the closest you can get on

Re: a Debian executable on Android

Did you try alibaba.com re prices? Android does have a "Native" mode, mostly meaning not Java. Ubuntu Touch (I think) aims at replacing Android. I have Debian Kit running on a rooted phone. Not chrooted. But I think drivers for things like the GPU, display, GPS are still lacking. I run Tight

Re: a Debian executable on Android

On 07/04/16 16:02, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > outdated > Android is what I have to settle for unless I spring for a Google sold > device and prices / availability in AU aren't as good as they are in the US. You have a reasonable choice of devices with Cyanogenmod and/or AOSP etc. - updates are

Re: a Debian executable on Android

> If you ignore proprietaryness, I expect iOS devices are more secure > than Debian, given their secure enclave stuff. Debian doesn't yet have > support for Secure Boot. SecureBoot has very little to do with security. More specifically, it's mostly useful to provide "security against the end

Re: a Debian executable on Android

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:02 PM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > So, no point in that, it is still under Android. I want "bare" metal > Debian thanks or some other trusted Linux, perhaps a BSD, but outdated > Android is what I have to settle for unless I spring for a Google sold > device and prices /

Re: a Debian executable on Android

On 7/04/2016 7:13 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > >> Given the security [or lack thereof, in reality] of both iOS and >> Android, I would rather have Debian directly on a mobile. > > If you ignore proprietaryness, I expect iOS devices are more

Re: a Debian executable on Android

On Wednesday 06 Apr 2016 8:53:33 PM pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > Hello ARM users, > > Suppose you have a software working in Debian which > is working on an ARM cpu. Is there an Android app > providing an environment where the given software > can work? Assuming no changes to this software of >

Re: a Debian executable on Android

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > Given the security [or lack thereof, in reality] of both iOS and > Android, I would rather have Debian directly on a mobile. If you ignore proprietaryness, I expect iOS devices are more secure than Debian, given their secure enclave

Re: a Debian executable on Android

On 7/04/2016 3:07 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > There are several ways to have Debian under Android: > > https://wiki.debian.org/ChrootOnAndroid Given the security [or lack thereof, in reality] of both iOS and Android, I would rather have Debian directly on a mobile. :( A. signature.asc

Re: a Debian executable on Android

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Peter E. wrote: > Suppose you have a software working in Debian which > is working on an ARM cpu. Is there an Android app > providing an environment where the given software > can work? Assuming no changes to this software of > course. /dev/fb0 suffices as

a Debian executable on Android

Hello ARM users, Suppose you have a software working in Debian which is working on an ARM cpu. Is there an Android app providing an environment where the given software can work? Assuming no changes to this software of course. /dev/fb0 suffices as display. X11 is not required. Thanks,