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Le Mon, Oct 03, 2022 at 12:33:20AM +0200, Mattia Rizzolo a écrit :
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> I can live with an APT hook warning me if I have non-free but not
> non-free-firmware, but I would prefer to even do without that.
In addition, how about distributing the firmware in both 'non-free' and
'non-free-firmware' at
On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 08:21:31PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> Two things:
>
> 1. I'm worried what bugs we might expose by having packages be in two
> components at once.
> 2. I really don't like the idea of leaving two different
> configurations in the wild; it'll confuse people and
On Mon, Oct 03, 2022 at 01:18:55AM +0300, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> вс, 2 окт. 2022 г. в 22:36, Steve Langasek :
> > > So this is the one bit that I don't think we currently have a good
> > > answer for. We've never had a specific script to run on upgrades (like
> > > Ubuntu do), so this kind of
Hello,
вс, 2 окт. 2022 г. в 22:36, Steve Langasek :
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> On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 03:53:00PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> > >What's the plan for upgraded systems with an existing
> > >/etc/apt/sources.list.
> > >Will the new n-f-f section added on upgrades automatically(if non-free was
> >
Hi Steve,
On 10/2/22 21:26, Steve Langasek wrote:
I heartily endorse ubuntu-release-upgrader, it has been useful in addressing
uncounted upgrade issues over the years and I think something like this
would be a nice addition to Debian as well. Two caveats:
- Despite this being the sanctioned
On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 03:53:00PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> >What's the plan for upgraded systems with an existing /etc/apt/sources.list.
> >Will the new n-f-f section added on upgrades automatically(if non-free was
> >enabled before)?
> So this is the one bit that I don't think we
On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 11:08:47AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
>On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 03:53:00PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>> On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 04:43:47PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
>> > What's the plan for upgraded systems with an existing
>> > /etc/apt/sources.list.
>> > Will the
On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 05:31:16PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
>Steve McIntyre (2022-10-02):
>> * Extra d-i code to inform users about what firmware blobs have been
>> loaded and the matching non-free-firmware packages. Plus information
>> about the hardware involved. Maybe a new d-i module
> I think it's ironic
Apologies, on second thought this was poor wording. It's not ironic,
merely an oversight. We all believe in the success of free software, and
I don't mean to question anyone's values or allegiance for wanting to
serve users by tackling the most evident problems.
I concede I'm biased as its maintainer, but I think it's ironic that
non-free firmware is about to have better support than the flagship
libre wireless firmware. I'm referring to open-ath9k-htc-firmware, which
if you're not familiar, is the firmware for the most prominent USB
wireless adapters
On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 10:53 PM Steve McIntyre wrote:
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> On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 04:43:47PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> >
> >Hi Steve,
> >
> >thanks for the update!
> >
> >Am 02.10.22 um 16:27 schrieb Steve McIntyre:
> >
> >> * Tweaks to add the non-free-firmware section in the apt-setup
On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 10:53 AM Steve McIntyre wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 04:43:47PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> >What's the plan for upgraded systems with an existing /etc/apt/sources.list.
> >Will the new n-f-f section added on upgrades automatically(if non-free was
> >enabled before)?
Steve McIntyre (2022-10-02):
> * Extra d-i code to inform users about what firmware blobs have been
> loaded and the matching non-free-firmware packages. Plus information
> about the hardware involved. Maybe a new d-i module / udeb for this?
> Exact details here still TBD. Probably the
On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 03:53:00PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 04:43:47PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
What's the plan for upgraded systems with an existing /etc/apt/sources.list.
Will the new n-f-f section added on upgrades automatically(if non-free was
enabled before)?
On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 04:43:47PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
>
>Hi Steve,
>
>thanks for the update!
>
>Am 02.10.22 um 16:27 schrieb Steve McIntyre:
>
>> * Tweaks to add the non-free-firmware section in the apt-setup module
>>if desired/needed.
>
>...
>
>> If you think I've missed anything
Hi Steve,
thanks for the update!
Am 02.10.22 um 16:27 schrieb Steve McIntyre:
* Tweaks to add the non-free-firmware section in the apt-setup module
if desired/needed.
...
If you think I've missed anything here, please let me and Cyril know -
the best place would be the mailing list
Hi all!
[ I've also blogged about this - see
https://blog.einval.com/2022/10/02#firmware-vote-result ]
I'm assuming that there will be no surprises and Kurt will shortly
confirm the result that devotee reported already [1]. :-)
We have quite a few things to do now, ideally before the freeze
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