Re: Testing removal policy (was: Mechanism in place...)

2008-06-29 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 27 June 2008, Pierre Habouzit wrote: Well, the thing is, we have quite a clear policy, which is to remove (not in period of a freeze of course) packages that are:   * leaf packages ;   * RC buggy ;   * for more than 20 days ;   * with absolutely no movement from the maintainer.

Re: Testing removal policy (was: Mechanism in place...)

2008-06-29 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 07:51:59PM +, Frans Pop wrote: On Friday 27 June 2008, Pierre Habouzit wrote: Well, the thing is, we have quite a clear policy, which is to remove (not in period of a freeze of course) packages that are:   * leaf packages ;   * RC buggy ;   * for more than 20

Re: Testing removal policy (was: Mechanism in place...)

2008-06-29 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 11:34:00PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 08:31:24PM +, Joey Hess wrote: Another case is NTP, which was kicked out of testing for a licensing bug, causing much grief to be reported on debian-user. FWIW I was the one asking the removal:

Re: Testing removal policy (was: Mechanism in place...)

2008-06-29 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 29 June 2008, Pierre Habouzit wrote: I'm not the one that removed the package, and I don't know the rationale behind this removal. How is that relevant? I really don't care if it was Tom, Dick or Harry who did the actual removal. From my perspective this removal was done by the

Re: Testing removal policy (was: Mechanism in place...)

2008-06-29 Thread Steve Langasek
Also, On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 11:34:00PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: FWIW I was the one asking the removal: upstream has a fix that is backportable, not trivially, but that is. And there is openntpd that is a drop in replacement for most desktop users (and I assume that testing users

Re: Testing removal policy (was: Mechanism in place...)

2008-06-29 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 29 June 2008, Pierre Habouzit wrote: FWIW I was the one asking the removal: upstream has a fix that is backportable, not trivially, but that is. And there is openntpd that is a drop in replacement for most desktop users (and I assume that testing users aren't really servers, that

Re: Testing removal policy (was: Mechanism in place...)

2008-06-29 Thread Mike Bird
On Sun June 29 2008 17:59:27 Frans Pop wrote: Again, the only things you (the release team) have managed to achieve with this are: - cosmetically improving the RC stats for testing - annoying developers and users There's at least one other consequence. Some of us pointed out that the new