On Fri, 1 Sept 2023 at 09:23, Helmut Grohne wrote:
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> Hi Luca,
>
> At least three DDs have asked you to stop. Why do you continue?
>
> In all of your mails to this bug, I've seen little attempt at trying to
> understand other participants. In a project as large as Debian, it is to
> be expected
Hi Ian,
On Wed, 2023-08-30 at 12:52 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Debian has historically been simply much more reliable.
Could you quantify this? This is not my experience.
As far as I understand you often use non-standard configurations
(split-/usr, non-standard init system, ...) which might
Hi Luca,
At least three DDs have asked you to stop. Why do you continue?
In all of your mails to this bug, I've seen little attempt at trying to
understand other participants. In a project as large as Debian, it is to
be expected that disagreement arises. That's not the end of the world,
but it
ntable number of Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, RHEL, CentOS,
Arch, SUSE, Yocto, Gentoo, etc. installations, for a decade in some of
those cases.
> Helmut Grohne writes ("Bug#1050001: Unwinding directory aliasing [and 3 more
> messages]"):
> > In order to prefer Debian ove
is OK to refer to files by the "wrong" name, which
cannot even be stated clearly, let along succinctly.
Despite all this, apparently when we argue for continued reliance on
this disproven assertion we go back to imprecise statements.
Helmut Grohne writes ("Bug#1050001: Unwinding
Helmut Grohne writes:
...
> As such, my expectation is that moving from where we are to your idea
> is not any easier than moving from a post-DEP-17 state. Therefore, I
> do not see any need to delay DEP-17 work.
I've been wondering about this possibility too.
If a symlink flowerbed is where we
On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 at 11:30, Matthew Vernon wrote:
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> Dear Luca,
>
> On 27/08/2023 03:16, Luca Boccassi wrote:
>
> [things]
>
> You've already been asked by a couple of people to moderate your tone in
> this thread. I appreciate there is a lot of frustration around
> /usr-merge, but your
On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 at 18:03, Sam Hartman wrote:
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>
> TL;DR: I think I understand one of Ian's points. I explain, but do not
> believe it is compelling as an argument to switch direction.
>
> > "Helmut" == Helmut Grohne writes:
> >> I think "package management" is the wrong term here.
TL;DR: I think I understand one of Ian's points. I explain, but do not
believe it is compelling as an argument to switch direction.
> "Helmut" == Helmut Grohne writes:
>> I think "package management" is the wrong term here. It's not
>> just our tools and packages that are
Hi Ian,
On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 11:24:33AM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Helmut Grohne writes ("Bug#1050001: Unwinding directory aliasing"):
> > On Wed, Aug 23, 2023 at 05:04:36PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > > And, the approach being taken very seriously privileges Debian itself,
> > > and those
Hi Matthew,
On Sun, 2023-08-27 at 11:30 +0100, Matthew Vernon wrote:
> Any such consideration must be mindful of the fact that the majority of
> Debian installs are now /usr-merged, which means that the complexity of
> unwinding such installs has to be a heavy factor in thinking about
>
Dear Luca,
On 27/08/2023 03:16, Luca Boccassi wrote:
[things]
You've already been asked by a couple of people to moderate your tone in
this thread. I appreciate there is a lot of frustration around
/usr-merge, but your contributions are not helping with that at all. Nor
do they help us have
On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 at 11:27, Ian Jackson
wrote:
>
> Helmut Grohne writes ("Bug#1050001: Unwinding directory aliasing"):
> > On Wed, Aug 23, 2023 at 05:04:36PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > > And, the approach being taken very seriously privileges Debian itself,
> > > and those well-staffed
Helmut Grohne writes ("Bug#1050001: Unwinding directory aliasing"):
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2023 at 05:04:36PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > And, the approach being taken very seriously privileges Debian itself,
> > and those well-staffed derivatives able to do the necessary transition
> > auditing
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