Bug#365408: [POLICY-PROPOSAL] Drop java*-runtime/compiler, create classpath-jre/jdk, and java-jre/jdk

2010-04-06 Thread Niels Thykier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 tag 365408 + wontfix thanks Hi Based the latest entries and the latest update to the policy, I am marking this as wontfix. That being said, I intend to propose the removal of the java*-compiler packages. ~Niels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-

Bug#365408: [POLICY-PROPOSAL] Drop java*-runtime/compiler, create classpath-jre/jdk and java-jre/jdk

2006-05-26 Thread Michael Koch
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 06:03:19PM -0400, Charles Fry wrote: A virtual package name is a functional label, not a product name. Java is the name of an island and a natural language too. I'm surprised if Sun can prevent use of a word in this way. A function that is used to call a

Bug#365408: [POLICY-PROPOSAL] Drop java*-runtime/compiler, create classpath-jre/jdk and java-jre/jdk

2006-05-23 Thread MJ Ray
Arnaud Vandyck [EMAIL PROTECTED] MJ Ray a €crit : [...] A virtual package name is a functional label, not a product name. Java is the name of an island and a natural language too. I'm surprised if Sun can prevent use of a word in this way. A function that is used to call a runtime,

Bug#365408: [POLICY-PROPOSAL] Drop java*-runtime/compiler, create classpath-jre/jdk and java-jre/jdk

2006-05-22 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 MJ Ray a écrit : [...] A virtual package name is a functional label, not a product name. Java is the name of an island and a natural language too. I'm surprised if Sun can prevent use of a word in this way. A function that is used to call a

Bug#365408: [POLICY-PROPOSAL] Drop java*-runtime/compiler, create classpath-jre/jdk and java-jre/jdk

2006-05-22 Thread Charles Fry
A virtual package name is a functional label, not a product name. Java is the name of an island and a natural language too. I'm surprised if Sun can prevent use of a word in this way. A function that is used to call a runtime, compiler, etc of the Java(tm) language! Java? is a

Bug#365408: [POLICY-PROPOSAL] Drop java*-runtime/compiler, create classpath-jre/jdk and java-jre/jdk

2006-05-18 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Cc'ing to debian-legal: summary: The major question is about replacing java1-runtime, java1-compiler, java2-runtime and java2-compiler virtual packages by classpath-jre, classpath-jdk for free java implementation and java-jre and java-jdk for non-free

Bug#365408: [POLICY-PROPOSAL] Drop java*-runtime/compiler, create classpath-jre/jdk and java-jre/jdk

2006-05-18 Thread MJ Ray
Arnaud Vandyck [EMAIL PROTECTED] The major question is about replacing java1-runtime, java1-compiler, java2-runtime and java2-compiler virtual packages by classpath-jre, classpath-jdk for free java implementation and java-jre and java-jdk for non-free implementations. More informations on the

Bug#365408: [POLICY-PROPOSAL] Drop java*-runtime/compiler, create classpath-jre/jdk and java-jre/jdk

2006-05-17 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Charles Fry a écrit : [...] 2) I don't see the trademark problem. There are already virtual packages that use the word java. What would be the difference between continuing the same trend? There is a trademark problem. The java1|2

Bug#365408: [POLICY-PROPOSAL] Drop java*-runtime/compiler, create classpath-jre/jdk and java-jre/jdk

2006-05-17 Thread Charles Fry
2) I don't see the trademark problem. There are already virtual packages that use the word java. What would be the difference between continuing the same trend? There is a trademark problem. The java1|2 virtual packages were targeted to Sun's, IBM's and Blackdown JVM version

Bug#365408: [POLICY-PROPOSAL] Drop java*-runtime/compiler, create classpath-jre/jdk and java-jre/jdk

2006-05-11 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Charles Fry wrote: Note that I added a paragraph from a proposal from Stefan Gybas, modified by Ben Burton (see Bug#227587). Even if they did not really get a consensus, I think, with the change of the virtual packages to classpath-jre, classpath-jdk,

Bug#365408: [POLICY-PROPOSAL] Drop java*-runtime/compiler, create classpath-jre/jdk and java-jre/jdk

2006-05-11 Thread Charles Fry
I strongly oppose the classpath/java distinction for classpath vs. non-free JREs and JDKs. Instead I propose dropping classpath-* as well, and only using java-jre and java-jdk. So people that wants to use Java should install non-free software? That's not possible in Debian! No, I want

Bug#365408: [POLICY-PROPOSAL] Drop java*-runtime/compiler, create classpath-jre/jdk and java-jre/jdk

2006-05-08 Thread Charles Fry
Note that I added a paragraph from a proposal from Stefan Gybas, modified by Ben Burton (see Bug#227587). Even if they did not really get a consensus, I think, with the change of the virtual packages to classpath-jre, classpath-jdk, java-jre and java-jdk, the proposal of Stefan is good to

Bug#365408: [POLICY-PROPOSAL] Drop java*-runtime/compiler, create classpath-jre/jdk and java-jre/jdk

2006-04-29 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 package: java-common version: 0.24 Hi all, One of the result of our discussions in Oldenburg (devjam) and in Bruxelles (FOSDEM) is about the use of the virtual packages. One of our reflexion was the number in the java*-runtime and java*-compiler

Bug#365408: [POLICY-PROPOSAL] Drop java*-runtime/compiler, create classpath-jre/jdk and java-jre/jdk

2006-04-29 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Arnaud Vandyck wrote: [...] One of the result of our discussions in Oldenburg (devjam) and in Bruxelles (FOSDEM) is about the use of the virtual packages. I forgot to thanks Wolfgang Baer, Michael Koch, Matthias Klose, Stefan Gybas, Ben Burton and