Bug#395262: Arch: all package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

2006-11-10 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 10:11:45AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Real or fake makes no difference. Anything that test id or file permissions will (hopefully) behave the same with fakeroot. Wrong; otherwise there wouldn't be packages who fail to

Bug#395262: Arch: all package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

2006-11-10 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Goswin von Brederlow] Do they fail when you use sudo instead of fakeroot or when you run the complete build process as root? The usual reason a package fails with sudo is that it assumes the $(PWD) macro will be available, pointing to the current working directory. sudo does not preserve

Bug#395262: Arch: all package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

2006-11-10 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [Goswin von Brederlow] Do they fail when you use sudo instead of fakeroot or when you run the complete build process as root? The usual reason a package fails with sudo is that it assumes the $(PWD) macro will be available, pointing to the current

Bug#395262: Arch: all package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

2006-11-09 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 10:11:45AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Real or fake makes no difference. Anything that test id or file permissions will (hopefully) behave the same with fakeroot. Wrong; otherwise there wouldn't be packages who fail to build when root is, in fact, root, as happens

Bug#395262: Arch: all package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

2006-11-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 11:53:32PM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: Robert Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can also note why bazaar wont build as root: its test suite includes a test for the ability to handle read only directories correctly. As

Bug#395262: Arch: all package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

2006-11-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Robert Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can also note why bazaar wont build as root: its test suite includes a test for the ability to handle read only directories correctly. As root, anything is writable, so this test fails. [Goswin von

Bug#395262: Arch: all package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

2006-11-02 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 11:53:32PM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: Robert Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can also note why bazaar wont build as root: its test suite includes a test for the ability to handle read only directories correctly. As root, anything

Bug#395262: Arch: all package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

2006-11-01 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2006-10-31 at 23:16 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 08:02:22AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: While I fully agree with you on all points, I think that this should be discussed post-etch with the general question of in which environment are packages supposed to

Bug#395262: Arch: all package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

2006-11-01 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Robert Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 2006-10-31 at 23:16 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 08:02:22AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: While I fully agree with you on all points, I think that this should be discussed post-etch with the general question of in which

Bug#395262: Arch: all package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

2006-11-01 Thread Peter Samuelson
Robert Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can also note why bazaar wont build as root: its test suite includes a test for the ability to handle read only directories correctly. As root, anything is writable, so this test fails. [Goswin von Brederlow] That test should add a test for root

Bug#395262: Arch: all package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

2006-11-01 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 11:53:32PM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: Robert Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can also note why bazaar wont build as root: its test suite includes a test for the ability to handle read only directories correctly. As root, anything is writable, so this

Bug#395262: Arch: all package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

2006-10-31 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
(Cced the relevant bug report) On 31/10/06 at 23:50 -0500, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Some packages (e.g choose-mirror) fetch a newer version of a file during build if it's possible to fetch that file. I don't think this is RC, since the file is not missing from the

Bug#395262: Arch: all package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

2006-10-31 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 08:02:22AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: While I fully agree with you on all points, I think that this should be discussed post-etch with the general question of in which environment are packages supposed to build ?. There are other similar issue, like: - should packages