Bug#441595: [Dev-luatex] (fwd) Bug#441595: not all libraries are customized, there is room for improvement

2010-11-28 Thread Hilmar Preusse
On 19.12.09 Taco Hoekwater (t...@elvenkind.com) wrote: Norbert Preining wrote: Dear Taco, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=441595#47 And the advantage for you is that there are less changes if you incorporate new versions of upstream libraries. But that is certainly true.

Bug#441595: [Dev-luatex] (fwd) Bug#441595: not all libraries are customized, there is room for improvement

2010-11-28 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hi Hilmar, On 11/28/2010 01:54 PM, Hilmar Preusse wrote: luafilesystem: that local patch will go away soon (it is possible to slide the new functions in elsewhere, where they are not interfering with the upstream). The patch is still in the lualib used by luatex. Did you made already

Bug#441595: [Dev-luatex] (fwd) Bug#441595: not all libraries are customized, there is room for improvement

2010-11-28 Thread Hilmar Preusse
On 28.11.10 Taco Hoekwater (t...@elvenkind.com) wrote: On 11/28/2010 01:54 PM, Hilmar Preusse wrote: Hi, luafilesystem: that local patch will go away soon (it is possible to slide the new functions in elsewhere, where they are not interfering with the upstream). The patch is still

Bug#441595: [Dev-luatex] (fwd) Bug#441595: not all libraries are customized, there is room for improvement

2009-12-19 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Norbert Preining wrote: Dear Taco, one of the lua Gurus here at Debian checked the embedded libs and found that most of the included libs are very similar to upstream, and he offered to push the few changes in your code to upstream. What do you say? (See attached email, including the diffs

Bug#441595: [Dev-luatex] (fwd) Bug#441595: not all libraries are customized, there is room for improvement

2009-12-19 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sa, 19 Dez 2009, Taco Hoekwater wrote: But what happens then? Luatex becomes dependent on an external library that may or may not be distributed by debian (or anyone else)? No, only that as long as the libraries in texlua are the same as upstream I can reuse the the packages in Debian. And

Bug#441595: [Dev-luatex] (fwd) Bug#441595: not all libraries are customized, there is room for improvement

2009-12-19 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Norbert Preining wrote: On Sa, 19 Dez 2009, Taco Hoekwater wrote: But what happens then? Luatex becomes dependent on an external library that may or may not be distributed by debian (or anyone else)? No, only that as long as the libraries in texlua are the same as upstream I can reuse the the

Bug#441595: [Dev-luatex] (fwd) Bug#441595: not all libraries are customized, there is room for improvement

2009-12-19 Thread Martin Schröder
2009/12/19 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl: what does that mean in practice for your tex live installer? that it has to fetch (and compile) extra libs? Debian: Dynamic libs. TeXlive: Mostly static binaries. Best Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with

Bug#441595: [Dev-luatex] (fwd) Bug#441595: not all libraries are customized, there is room for improvement

2009-12-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Norbert Preining wrote: Dear Taco, one of the lua Gurus here at Debian checked the embedded libs and found that most of the included libs are very similar to upstream, and he offered to push the few changes in your code to upstream. What do you say? (See attached email, including the diffs

Bug#441595: [Dev-luatex] (fwd) Bug#441595: not all libraries are customized, there is room for improvement

2009-12-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Martin Schröder wrote: 2009/12/19 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl: what does that mean in practice for your tex live installer? that it has to fetch (and compile) extra libs? Debian: Dynamic libs. TeXlive: Mostly static binaries. yes but how does it check if the libs are functionally the same?

Bug#441595: [Dev-luatex] (fwd) Bug#441595: not all libraries are customized, there is room for improvement

2009-12-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Hi Norbert No, only that as long as the libraries in texlua are the same as upstream I can reuse the the packages in Debian. what does that mean in practice for your tex live installer? that it has to fetch (and compile) extra libs? Hans

Bug#441595: [Dev-luatex] (fwd) Bug#441595: not all libraries are customized, there is room for improvement

2009-12-19 Thread Martin Schröder
2009/12/19 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl: yes but how does it check if the libs are functionally the same? APIs are versioned and checked by the loader. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_library#Dynamic_linking It works. Mostly. Best Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Bug#441595: [Dev-luatex] (fwd) Bug#441595: not all libraries are customized, there is room for improvement

2009-12-19 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sat, 19 Dec 2009, Hans Hagen wrote: sure, but i wonder what this means for the texlive updater ... will it also ship upgraded (or ancient) library versions then? We are talking only about the Debian packages here. The TeX Live (upstream, main) will NOT change to dynamic libs, sure not!!!

Bug#441595: [Dev-luatex] (fwd) Bug#441595: not all libraries are customized, there is room for improvement

2009-12-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Martin Schröder wrote: 2009/12/19 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl: yes but how does it check if the libs are functionally the same? APIs are versioned and checked by the loader. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_library#Dynamic_linking It works. Mostly. sure, but i wonder what this means for

Bug#441595: [Dev-luatex] (fwd) Bug#441595: not all libraries are customized, there is room for improvement

2009-12-19 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Hans, On Sat, 19 Dec 2009, Hans Hagen wrote: Debian: Dynamic libs. TeXlive: Mostly static binaries. yes but how does it check if the libs are functionally the same? md5sum of the source code. Please do NOT care for what we are doing in Debian, that is our business and I will care for