Bug#571679: AW: [tex-live] Bug#571679: moving ucs back to -recommended

2010-03-10 Thread Philipp Stephani
: Re: [tex-live] Bug#571679: moving ucs back to -recommended fwiw, the only european language omitted from utf8, afaik, is greek. as an (indirect) result, i've never actually used utf8. Are you talking about utf8 or utf8x (≈ ucs) here? The former is part of the LaTeX kernel; the latter has

Bug#571679: [tex-live] Bug#571679: moving ucs back to -recommended

2010-03-10 Thread Robin Fairbairns
Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at wrote: On Mi, 10 Mär 2010, Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard wrote: Well, ucs isn't required for utf8 input, \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} is enough. Well, I myself always use \usepackage[utf8x]{inputenc}, but without knowing why. Probably I had problems at some

Bug#571679: [tex-live] Bug#571679: moving ucs back to -recommended

2010-03-10 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mi, 10 Mär 2010, Philipp Stephani wrote: If you want Greek, Japanese or similar, you probably should not be using pdfTeX at all. Huuu? But? Plain TeX? Best wishes Norbert Norbert Preining

Bug#571679: [tex-live] Bug#571679: moving ucs back to -recommended

2010-03-10 Thread Robin Fairbairns
Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at wrote: On Mi, 10 Mär 2010, Philipp Stephani wrote: If you want Greek, Japanese or similar, you probably should not be using pdfTeX at all. Huuu? But? Plain TeX? unicode-based engines good, 8-bit engines (tex, pdftex,...) bad. you can bash 16-bit

Bug#571679: [tex-live] Bug#571679: moving ucs back to -recommended

2010-03-10 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mi, 10 Mär 2010, Robin Fairbairns wrote: unicode-based engines good, 8-bit engines (tex, pdftex,...) bad. Well, so many things have been done with 8-bit engines, so I would not say bad, but space for improvement ;-) in the words of the advertising twaddle: you _know_ it makes sense. Yes I

Bug#571679: [tex-live] Bug#571679: moving ucs back to -recommended

2010-03-10 Thread Zdenek Wagner
2010/3/10 Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at: On Mi, 10 Mär 2010, Robin Fairbairns wrote: unicode-based engines good, 8-bit engines (tex, pdftex,...) bad. Well, so many things have been done with 8-bit engines, so I would not say bad, but space for improvement ;-) Time for change. The

Bug#571679: moving ucs back to -recommended

2010-03-09 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi everyone, From a Debian bug report: - Forwarded message from Decklin Foster deck...@red-bean.com - Somewhere between Lenny and now, ucs.sty was moved from -recommended to -extra. As UTF-8 support is (I believe) a release goal, I would - End forwarded message - I somehow