On 23/03/2014 01:50, Drew Parsons wrote:
On Sat, 2014-03-22 at 20:07 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Drew Parsons wrote:
Grace is one of the most useful packages in the entire archive.
I am not aware of anything other package that provides the same degree
of
On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 11:01:39 +1100
Drew Parsons dpars...@debian.org wrote:
Grace is one of the most useful packages in the entire archive.
... for 0.34% of users of the archive, maybe. To me, it is simply an RC
buggy package which has had no new development upstream since 2012 and
which
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 20:38:49 -0700
Nicholas Breen nbr...@debian.org wrote:
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 04:10:39PM +, Neil Williams wrote:
I'm seeking the removal of pygrace and expeyes so that grace can be
removed. CC'ing the relevant maintainers (and filing important bugs
for each
Hello,
I'm the [passive] upstream maintainer. Just to make things clear:
1. grace is perfectly happy using its own copy of t1lib. So you can
safely remove the t1lib debian package.
2. Yes, perhaps only 0.34% of all users use it. But same can be said
about 90% of the entire debian archive
On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 10:03:53AM +, Neil Williams wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 20:38:49 -0700
Nicholas Breen nbr...@debian.org wrote:
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 04:10:39PM +, Neil Williams wrote:
I'm seeking the removal of pygrace and expeyes so that grace can be
removed. CC'ing
On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 13:08:14 +0100
Michael Banck mba...@debian.org wrote:
On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 10:03:53AM +, Neil Williams wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 20:38:49 -0700
Nicholas Breen nbr...@debian.org wrote:
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 04:10:39PM +, Neil Williams wrote:
I'm
Hi,
This is my summary, see below for specific replies to specific points:
1. Grace is not unmaintained, it is maintained in Debian by Nicholas
Breen. It also is not abandoned upstream, its latest stable release
being from late 2012.
2. As t1lib is superseded and unmaintained, it should be
Dear Evgeny,
I strongly back your point of view.
As Neil wants a quick solution, I shall develop alternative depedencies
for expeyes which currently relies on grace: it will offer the
possibility to choose qtiplot.
I agree with you, a user which learned to use Xmgrace will grind loads
of work
On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Michael Banck wrote:
Hi,
This is my summary, see below for specific replies to specific points:
1. Grace is not unmaintained, it is maintained in Debian by Nicholas
Breen. It also is not abandoned upstream, its latest stable release
being from late 2012.
Hi,
On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 12:47:18PM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Michael Banck wrote:
This is my summary, see below for specific replies to specific points:
1. Grace is not unmaintained, it is maintained in Debian by Nicholas
Breen. It also is not
Hi,
IMHO, this discussion went well out of proportions...
On 23/03/14 18:47, Michael Gilbert wrote:
Embedded libraries are almost always to be avoided due to numerous
reasons listed in the Debian security documentation.
Right, but these reasons are inapplicable when the external library is
On 23/03/14 19:04, Michael Banck wrote:
As soon as the t1lib library package is removed from Debian, it is not
an embedded library anymore, just some code. It probably makes sense to
link it statically then.
And this is exactly what is going to happen. When an external t1lib is
not found,
Grace is one of the most useful packages in the entire archive.
I am not aware of anything other package that provides the same degree
of functionality.
Removing it is not a good idea.
Drew
On Sat, 2014-03-22 at 16:10 +, Neil Williams wrote:
I've attached a patch that changes grace to
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Drew Parsons wrote:
Grace is one of the most useful packages in the entire archive.
I am not aware of anything other package that provides the same degree
of functionality.
Removing it is not a good idea.
That can be fixed by anyone willing to spend the time
On Sat, 2014-03-22 at 20:07 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Drew Parsons wrote:
Grace is one of the most useful packages in the entire archive.
I am not aware of anything other package that provides the same degree
of functionality.
Removing it is not a
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 04:10:39PM +, Neil Williams wrote:
I'm seeking the removal of pygrace and expeyes so that grace can be
removed. CC'ing the relevant maintainers (and filing important bugs for
each package). I expect the removal to start in two weeks unless I hear
back about a viable
I've attached a patch that changes grace to use its embedded t1lib
copy. This is not at all ideal since probably most of the t1lib
security patches aren't included, but grace is the last package
remaining to drop support for t1lib, so it needs a change.
Swapping a buggy package for an old
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