Bug#642198: Bug#648286: ITP: r8168 -- Realtek r8168 device driver for Linux (DKMS version)

2011-11-17 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
Hi Patrick, Julien Since linux-image-3.1.0 arrived in unstable (many thanks Ben), perhaps it would be nice if you could try it with your NIC so we learn how well new r8169 work with your card. Could you please provide some feedback? Because r8168 qualifies for non-free I would like to have it

Bug#642198: Bug#648286: ITP: r8168 -- Realtek r8168 device driver for Linux (DKMS version)

2011-11-14 Thread Andreas Beckmann
On 2011-11-13 16:59, Patrick Matthäi wrote: Am 13.11.2011 15:08, schrieb Andreas Beckmann: I just revived my old ITP http://bugs.debian.org/642198 Updated packaging is available at git://github.com/anbe42/r8168.git Patrick, you may want to test it. Also testing to switch back from r8168 to

Bug#642198: Bug#648286: ITP: r8168 -- Realtek r8168 device driver for Linux (DKMS version)

2011-11-13 Thread Andreas Beckmann
On 2011-11-12 19:04, Patrick Matthäi wrote: @Andreas and Dmitry: You may cooperate on packaging or decide, who wants to maintain it in the future. I just revived my old ITP http://bugs.debian.org/642198 and tried to put my things in a git repository: Only

Bug#642198: Bug#648286: ITP: r8168 -- Realtek r8168 device driver for Linux (DKMS version)

2011-11-13 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2011-11-13 at 15:08 +0100, Andreas Beckmann wrote: On 2011-11-12 19:04, Patrick Matthäi wrote: @Andreas and Dmitry: You may cooperate on packaging or decide, who wants to maintain it in the future. I just revived my old ITP http://bugs.debian.org/642198 and tried to put my

Bug#642198: Bug#648286: ITP: r8168 -- Realtek r8168 device driver for Linux (DKMS version)

2011-11-13 Thread Patrick Matthäi
Am 13.11.2011 15:08, schrieb Andreas Beckmann: On 2011-11-12 19:04, Patrick Matthäi wrote: @Andreas and Dmitry: You may cooperate on packaging or decide, who wants to maintain it in the future. I just revived my old ITP http://bugs.debian.org/642198 and tried to put my things in a git

Bug#642198: Bug#648286: ITP: r8168 -- Realtek r8168 device driver for Linux (DKMS version)

2011-11-12 Thread Patrick Matthäi
Am 10.11.2011 10:42, schrieb Dmitry Smirnov: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Dmitry Smirnov only...@member.fsf.org * Package name: r8168-dkms Version : 8.026.00 Upstream Author : Realtek Semiconductor Corp. * URL :

Bug#648286: ITP: r8168 -- Realtek r8168 device driver for Linux (DKMS version)

2011-11-10 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Dmitry Smirnov only...@member.fsf.org * Package name: r8168-dkms Version : 8.026.00 Upstream Author : Realtek Semiconductor Corp. * URL :

Bug#648286: ITP: r8168 -- Realtek r8168 device driver for Linux (DKMS version)

2011-11-10 Thread Patrick Matthäi
Am 10.11.2011 10:42, schrieb Dmitry Smirnov: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Dmitry Smirnovonly...@member.fsf.org * Package name: r8168-dkms Version : 8.026.00 Upstream Author : Realtek Semiconductor Corp. * URL :

Bug#648286: ITP: r8168 -- Realtek r8168 device driver for Linux (DKMS version)

2011-11-10 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Patrick, I will be very happy if you find this driver useful. You can get it from mentors (dget): http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/non-free/r/r8168/r8168_8.026.00-1.dsc or from git repository:

Bug#648286: ITP: r8168 -- Realtek r8168 device driver for Linux (DKMS version)

2011-11-10 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi. Dmitry Smirnov only...@member.fsf.org (10/11/2011): r8168 is the Linux device driver released for RealTek RTL8168B/8111B, RTL8168C/8111C, RTL8168CP/8111CP, RTL8168D/8111D, RTL8168DP/8111DP, and RTL8168E/8111E Gigabit Ethernet controllers with PCI-Express interface. . This is to

Bug#648286: ITP: r8168 -- Realtek r8168 device driver for Linux (DKMS version)

2011-11-10 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
Sorry, I don't understand... This is merely an alternative driver from hardware vendor. Sometimes you might need alternatives if your hardware doesn't work well, or if you just suspect it do not work well but you need something to compare with. Fixing stuff is always good if you can do it.

Bug#648286: ITP: r8168 -- Realtek r8168 device driver for Linux (DKMS version)

2011-11-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Dmitry Smirnov only...@member.fsf.org [2011.11.10.1250 +0100]: This is merely an alternative driver from hardware vendor. … with a binary blob. Hence it is non-free. Instead of expending time packaging this software, you should spend the time convincing the vendor to get the Free

Bug#648286: ITP: r8168 -- Realtek r8168 device driver for Linux (DKMS version)

2011-11-10 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Martin, I'm 100% with you. However I rather see my job in helping users to have a usable environment rather negotiating vendors who don't even have a contact email regarding this driver, not to mention the lack of public repository. As I recently

Bug#648286: ITP: r8168 -- Realtek r8168 device driver for Linux (DKMS version)

2011-11-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Dmitry Smirnov only...@member.fsf.org [2011.11.10.1308 +0100]: As member of Free Software Foundation I do not like non-free software but I think it is reasonable that Debian policy tolerates non-free drivers (in corresponding section) when there is no alternative. (As a understand

Bug#648286: ITP: r8168 -- Realtek r8168 device driver for Linux (DKMS version)

2011-11-10 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
There is an alternative, and it should be fixed. It certainly should, but what can I do? I packaged it because I suspected that I have a problematic hardware - it turned out that I don't. However this alternative driver was quite helpful on order to troubleshoot the problem. By the way I

Bug#648286: ITP: r8168 -- Realtek r8168 device driver for Linux (DKMS version)

2011-11-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Dmitry Smirnov only...@member.fsf.org [2011.11.10.1320 +0100]: It certainly should, but what can I do? I did not mean to bash your work. I know we're both pulling on the same rope. -- .''`. martin f. krafft madduck@d.o Related projects: : :' : proud Debian developer

Bug#648286: ITP: r8168 -- Realtek r8168 device driver for Linux (DKMS version)

2011-11-10 Thread onlyjob
Dear Kai, well, then what is different and why can't that be upstreamed? And is there a known case, where the driver provided by Debian doesn't work (if so, is there a bug filed)? Perhaps you are right, given the time and the skills and the hardware and the person skilled and motivated

Bug#648286: ITP: r8168 -- Realtek r8168 device driver for Linux (DKMS version)

2011-11-10 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
I did not mean to bash your work. I know we're both pulling on the same rope. I know, I know, we certainly are... All the best, Dmitry. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Bug#648286: ITP: r8168 -- Realtek r8168 device driver for Linux (DKMS version)

2011-11-10 Thread Kai Wasserbäch
Dear Dimitry, Dmitry Smirnov schrieb am 10.11.2011 12:50: Sorry, I don't understand... This is merely an alternative driver from hardware vendor. Sometimes you might need alternatives if your hardware doesn't work well, or if you just suspect it do not work well but you need something to

Bug#648286: ITP: r8168 -- Realtek r8168 device driver for Linux (DKMS version)

2011-11-10 Thread Patrick Matthäi
Am 10.11.2011 13:54, schrieb onlyjob: Dear Kai, well, then what is different and why can't that be upstreamed? And is there a known case, where the driver provided by Debian doesn't work (if so, is there a bug filed)? Perhaps you are right, given the time and the skills and the hardware and

Bug#648286: ITP: r8168 -- Realtek r8168 device driver for Linux (DKMS version)

2011-11-10 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 20:42 +1100, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Dmitry Smirnov only...@member.fsf.org * Package name: r8168-dkms Version : 8.026.00 Upstream Author : Realtek Semiconductor Corp. * URL :

Bug#648286: ITP: r8168 -- Realtek r8168 device driver for Linux (DKMS version)

2011-11-10 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 14:14 +0100, Patrick Matthäi wrote: Am 10.11.2011 13:54, schrieb onlyjob: [...] Don't get me wrong: I love alternatives, but I don't see their value when it comes to device drivers. That's probably because you can afford it due to lack of problematic hardware on

Bug#648286: ITP: r8168 -- Realtek r8168 device driver for Linux (DKMS version)

2011-11-10 Thread Patrick Matthäi
Am 10.11.2011 15:18, schrieb Ben Hutchings: On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 14:14 +0100, Patrick Matthäi wrote: Am 10.11.2011 13:54, schrieb onlyjob: [...] Don't get me wrong: I love alternatives, but I don't see their value when it comes to device drivers. That's probably because you can afford it

Bug#648286: ITP: r8168 -- Realtek r8168 device driver for Linux (DKMS version)

2011-11-10 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
 This is to substitute built-in r8169 driver if it doesn't work well. Please don't.  If this gets added to Debian then every time there is a bug in in-tree r8169 then users will be told 'oh, try r8168'.  And if the bug is not present in r8168 then they may not report the bug at all, and it

Bug#648286: ITP: r8168 -- Realtek r8168 device driver for Linux (DKMS version)

2011-11-10 Thread onlyjob
Thanks, Julien. I see you've made r8168-source package as well - nice. I will introduce support for module-assistant if we agree on package inclusion. I would second that as I have another problem with r8169 which doesn't support support resuming from suspend/hibernate. I've been using r8168

Bug#648286: ITP: r8168 -- Realtek r8168 device driver for Linux (DKMS version)

2011-11-10 Thread Jeremy Allard
2011/11/10 onlyjob only...@gmail.com Thanks, Julien. I see you've made r8168-source package as well - nice. I will introduce support for module-assistant if we agree on package inclusion. I would second that as I have another problem with r8169 which doesn't support support resuming

Bug#648286: ITP: r8168 -- Realtek r8168 device driver for Linux (DKMS version)

2011-11-10 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 09:40 +1100, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: This is to substitute built-in r8169 driver if it doesn't work well. Please don't. If this gets added to Debian then every time there is a bug in in-tree r8169 then users will be told 'oh, try r8168'. And if the bug is not

Bug#648286: ITP: r8168 -- Realtek r8168 device driver for Linux (DKMS version)

2011-11-10 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
They can do that now, as we don't stop them from installing the version Realtek distributes. And do not help either. So do we care? Users don't want alternative drivers; they just want a working driver installed automatically.  The answer to 'this package is buggy' should not be 'never