Bug#675971: what should we be doing?

2012-07-01 Thread Philipp Kern
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 02:51:23PM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: I've re-read what you had written to at least try to understand what options there there might be. If possible, I'd like some clarification on what the zero-ice snafu in the following statement means:

Bug#675971: what should we be doing?

2012-06-27 Thread Nicos Gollan
Hi, On Tuesday 26 June 2012 23:33:39 Chris Knadle wrote: I'm assuming all of the above is true under normal circumstnaces when CELT 0.7.1 support is included. However with libcelt0-0 removed, mumble version 1.2.3-349-g315b5f5-1 is unable to communicate via server loopback to the majority of

Bug#675971: what should we be doing?

2012-06-27 Thread Ron
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 08:59:57AM +0200, Nicos Gollan wrote: Effectively, the standardisation process and related resolution of licensing issues for the new codec are one of the things holding back a proper 1.2.4 release. Whatever the real reasons for mumble upstream dragging its feet on

Bug#675971: what should we be doing?

2012-06-27 Thread Chris Knadle
On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 04:57:13, Ron wrote: On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 08:59:57AM +0200, Nicos Gollan wrote: ... So for reliable support, the safer bet would be to wait for 1.2.4; until then, it's under development and may break in weird ways. Which is not to say this part might not be

Bug#675971: what should we be doing?

2012-06-27 Thread Chris Knadle
On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 08:59:25, Chris Knadle wrote: ... On Wheezy, after doing a checkout of v1.2.3-348-g317f5a0-1 I'm unable to get the package to build because there's no source tarball and debuild reports that it can't build source format 3.0 (quilt) if the source tarball is missing.

Bug#675971: what should we be doing?

2012-06-26 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Monday 25 June 2012 23:26:50 Chris Knadle wrote: It seems unusual to CC ftpmaster in a bug report, but keeping the CC as this is a reply to one that went there. I won't, there are people you definitely don't want to be on the bad side of ;-) On Sunday, June 24, 2012 21:36:28, Michael

Bug#675971: what should we be doing?

2012-06-26 Thread Chris Knadle
Greetings Nicos. Thank you for your informative email. On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 09:08:45, Nicos Gollan wrote: On Monday 25 June 2012 23:26:50 Chris Knadle wrote: On Sunday, June 24, 2012 21:36:28, Michael Schmitt wrote: ... If you manage to get it to build and run, in the configuration

Bug#675971: what should we be doing?

2012-06-25 Thread Ron
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 03:51:14PM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: Because of all these sticky problems, without a clear path to proceed if I were personally in the maintainer's shoes I'd probably take the do nothing option and release the current 348 version that has the libcelt0-0 codec that

Bug#675971: what should we be doing?

2012-06-25 Thread Chris Knadle
On Monday, June 25, 2012 04:27:20, Ron wrote: On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 03:51:14PM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: Because of all these sticky problems, without a clear path to proceed if I were personally in the maintainer's shoes I'd probably take the do nothing option and release the current

Bug#675971: what should we be doing?

2012-06-25 Thread Chris Knadle
It seems unusual to CC ftpmaster in a bug report, but keeping the CC as this is a reply to one that went there. On Sunday, June 24, 2012 21:36:28, Michael Schmitt wrote: Am 24.06.2012 21:51, schrieb Chris Knadle: On Saturday, June 23, 2012 15:54:07, Michael Schmitt wrote: .. I'm a bit

Bug#675971: what should we be doing?

2012-06-24 Thread Ron
Hi tcwardr...@gmail.com, I confess I'm not entirely certain how to respond to this suggestion of yours ... If, on the one hand, you actually are a black-hat, who has put in the effort to actually analyse this for your own benefit - then I tip my hat to you and your art, and wish you all the

Bug#675971: what should we be doing?

2012-06-24 Thread Chris Knadle
I'm a bit dissappointed by the reply you got back to this suggestion, so I'm adding some thoughts concerning your idea. On Saturday, June 23, 2012 15:54:07, Michael Schmitt wrote: Hi folks, I guess shipping both versions with wheezy is not a viable option? At least I think that it would

Bug#675971: what should we be doing?

2012-06-24 Thread Michael Schmitt
Hi Chris, Am 24.06.2012 21:51, schrieb Chris Knadle: I'm a bit dissappointed by the reply you got back to this suggestion, so I'm adding some thoughts concerning your idea. *Many* thanks for taking my mail seriously, which the maintainer obviously did not. And yes, I am also rather

Bug#675971: what should we be doing?

2012-06-23 Thread Michael Schmitt
Hi folks, I guess shipping both versions with wheezy is not a viable option? At least I think that it would make sense. Disclaimer in the readme, explanation of the situation, if a major security exploit does surface (a mumble-client-crash is not a major security risk imho), remove that

Bug#675971: what should we be doing?

2012-06-21 Thread Chris Knadle
On Thursday, June 21, 2012 00:57:23, Chris Knadle wrote: On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 08:20:39 PM Chris Knadle wrote: On Monday, June 18, 2012 22:59:40, micah anderson wrote: Is the situation that all users that are at 1.2.3-348 and older can speak to each other and all users that are at

Bug#675971: what should we be doing?

2012-06-20 Thread Chris Knadle
On Monday, June 18, 2012 22:59:40, micah anderson wrote: Is the situation that all users that are at 1.2.3-348 and older can speak to each other and all users that are at 1.2.3-349 and greater can speak to each other, but =349 cannot speak to =348 users? I did some testing of Mumble

Bug#675971: what should we be doing?

2012-06-20 Thread Chris Knadle
On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 08:20:39 PM Chris Knadle wrote: On Monday, June 18, 2012 22:59:40, micah anderson wrote: Is the situation that all users that are at 1.2.3-348 and older can speak to each other and all users that are at 1.2.3-349 and greater can speak to each other, but =349

Bug#675971: what should we be doing?

2012-06-19 Thread Ron
Hi micah, On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:59:40PM -0400, micah anderson wrote: Is the situation that all users that are at 1.2.3-348 and older can speak to each other and all users that are at 1.2.3-349 and greater can speak to each other, but =349 cannot speak to =348 users? If so, is the

Bug#675971: what should we be doing?

2012-06-18 Thread micah anderson
Is the situation that all users that are at 1.2.3-348 and older can speak to each other and all users that are at 1.2.3-349 and greater can speak to each other, but =349 cannot speak to =348 users? If so, is the intended plan for everyone to bump up to =349? If that is true, at the very least