On Friday, July 20, 2012 01:47:21, Chris Knadle wrote:
[…]
From this test I draw the following conclusions:
[…]
- Once -2 of the Mumble client is migrated to Testing we will be
fully committed to the plan
Update: scratch the above, the 348 version of Mumble in Wheezy as it is now
Hi,
On Friday 20 July 2012 01:07:52 Ron wrote:
Once Thorvald gets back and we re-add speex, this should all work again
for everyone,
The problem with re-enabling speex is that it will not solve the communication
issue, except under very special circumstances.
That codec was only used in
Ron writes (Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC):
If it does, I'll bump the severity of your bug back down to something
not RC (but not close it yet, we'll let the speex enabling upload do
that), and request the release team unblock it.
For the avoidance of any doubt:
Please
Chris Knadle writes (Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC):
On Thursday, July 19, 2012 19:07:52, Ron wrote:
...
What we'd like to do in the meantime, is let the mumble version from
unstable transition to testing now. That will:
- Unbreak the server for everyone, which
On Friday, July 20, 2012 07:54:21, Ian Jackson wrote:
Chris Knadle writes (Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the
TC):
On Thursday, July 19, 2012 19:07:52, Ron wrote:
...
What we'd like to do in the meantime, is let the mumble version from
unstable transition
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 01:47:21AM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
I'm still not opposed to the plan (because I still think it's the best option
discussed), but I think it might hurt a bit more than perhaps we anticipated
in the very-short-term before the version of the Mumble client with the
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 08:14:48AM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
On Friday, July 20, 2012 07:54:21, Ian Jackson wrote:
Chris Knadle writes (Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the
TC):
On Thursday, July 19, 2012 19:07:52, Ron wrote:
...
What we'd like to do
On Friday, July 20, 2012 08:32:01, Ron wrote:
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 08:14:48AM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
On Friday, July 20, 2012 07:54:21, Ian Jackson wrote:
[…]
How will this interact with mumble in other distros, who are
presumably following mumble upstream's advice to use celt
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 08:49:54AM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
On Friday, July 20, 2012 08:32:01, Ron wrote:
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 08:14:48AM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
On Friday, July 20, 2012 07:54:21, Ian Jackson wrote:
[…]
How will this interact with mumble in other distros, who
Chris Knadle writes (Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC):
On Friday, July 20, 2012 01:47:21, Chris Knadle wrote:
[…]
From this test I draw the following conclusions:
[…]
- Once -2 of the Mumble client is migrated to Testing we will be
fully committed to the plan
Chris Knadle writes (Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC):
Test:
Thanks.
This:
- I had the friend upgrade to the developer snapshot 1.2.3-361-ga2a3836
from the Mumble website and try again -- same message. So right now
there is no version of the Mumble client
Ron writes (Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC):
Making a binary release for windows users is bottlenecked behind Thorvald too
right now. The problem goes something like this:
This is not relevant to the discussion here in front of the TC.
Whatever upstream do about Windows
On Friday, July 20, 2012 10:20:28, Ian Jackson wrote:
Chris Knadle writes (Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the
TC):
Test:
Thanks.
This:
- I had the friend upgrade to the developer snapshot
1.2.3-361-ga2a3836
from the Mumble website and try again
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 03:25:00PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
Ron writes (Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC):
Making a binary release for windows users is bottlenecked behind Thorvald
too
right now. The problem goes something like this:
This is not relevant
Ron writes (Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC):
You know, this is getting really frustrating Ian. If you aren't going
to actually read anything that I write, then perhaps we should find
some other member of the -ctte that isn't so blinkered into arguing
their *own
Ron writes (Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC):
What's left to stop us from moving forward with this again now?
Also, please stop trying to bounce us into a decision and other people
into action. The reason I am insisting on delay is because we (the
TC) want to be sure
On Friday, July 20, 2012 10:21:17, Ian Jackson wrote:
Chris Knadle writes (Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the
TC):
On Friday, July 20, 2012 01:47:21, Chris Knadle wrote:
[…]
From this test I draw the following conclusions:
[…]
- Once -2 of the Mumble client
Chris Knadle writes (Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC):
On Friday, July 20, 2012 10:21:17, Ian Jackson wrote:
Why won't it build ?
The mumble source pacakge will not build in Wheezy on amd64 due to Wheezy
getting an upgrade to gcc 4.7 in relation with zero-ice.
Oh
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 04:09:43PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
Ron writes (Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC):
What's left to stop us from moving forward with this again now?
Also, please stop trying to bounce us into a decision and other people
into action.
The only
On Friday, July 20, 2012 11:27:08, Ian Jackson wrote:
Chris Knadle writes (Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the
TC):
On Friday, July 20, 2012 10:21:17, Ian Jackson wrote:
Why won't it build ?
The mumble source pacakge will not build in Wheezy on amd64 due to Wheezy
Hi,
On Friday 20 July 2012 17:40:51 Ron wrote:
The 'situation' is no longer disputed afaics. Everyone except you has
agreed on the best way forward.
No. There may be a solution that Thorvald/slicer supposedly came up with. If
it turns out to work, super. It would make the debian-supplied
On Thursday, July 19, 2012 08:00:11, Chris Knadle wrote:
On Thursday, July 19, 2012 05:38:47, Ron wrote:
[…]
If I'd known that Thorvald was not going to be here to manage this
transition for Wheezy, I'd have never agreed to shipping libcelt in
the Squeeze release either, and would have
Hi,
On Thursday 19 July 2012 14:40:28 Chris Knadle wrote:
... except that Nicos Gollan stated that mumble servers have a base
assumption that clients have the CELT 0.7.1 codec available. :-/ Is that
correct?
If a client does not report any CELT versions, the server assumes that (only)
On Thursday, July 19, 2012 10:11:38, Nicos Gollan wrote:
Hi,
On Thursday 19 July 2012 14:40:28 Chris Knadle wrote:
... except that Nicos Gollan stated that mumble servers have a base
assumption that clients have the CELT 0.7.1 codec available. :-/ Is
that correct?
If a client does
On Thursday, July 19, 2012 14:23:31, Ron wrote:
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:55:59PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
Ron writes (Re: #682010 re celt and mumble referred to the TC):
[…]
Mumble already ships this as an embedded private library on every
system other than direct Debian derivatives.
Ok, so I've just had a long overdue catch-up with Thorvald, and we think
we have a plan that really covers all the bases ...
We can re-enable speex support in the client, which was only just recently
dropped (so only the client currently in unstable is affected by that),
and since all the
On Thursday, July 19, 2012 19:07:52, Ron wrote:
Ok, so I've just had a long overdue catch-up with Thorvald, and we think
we have a plan that really covers all the bases ...
We can re-enable speex support in the client, which was only just recently
dropped (so only the client currently in
On Thursday, July 19, 2012 19:07:52, Ron wrote:
...
What we'd like to do in the meantime, is let the mumble version from
unstable transition to testing now. That will:
- Unbreak the server for everyone, which currently won't work at all.
- Break the client for people using ancient
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