Bug#870078: libsane1 breaks all 3rd party scanner drivers

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Bug#870078: libsane1 breaks all 3rd party scanner drivers

On 11/02/2017 10:40 AM, Alex ARNAUD wrote: If we expect to make Debian and GNU/Linux universal we have to keep that people don't want to buy a new hardware to switch from Windows or Mac to GNU/Linux. The regular user should be the target, not the hacker. Sane 1.0.27 should work as 1.0.25 for the

Bug#870078: libsane1 breaks all 3rd party scanner drivers

Le 01/11/2017 à 21:30, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit : It should be the responsibility of the end user to make sure to buy hardware from a Linux-friendly manufacturer who is willing to update their drivers accordingly. Do you really want that Debian keeps down it's drive to improve quality

Bug#870078: libsane1 breaks all 3rd party scanner drivers

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 7:49 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 11/02/2017 12:18 AM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > Again, changing library package names due to SO bumps happen all > the time. I don't see why the libsane package should be any different > from other

Bug#870078: libsane1 breaks all 3rd party scanner drivers

On 11/02/2017 12:18 AM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > I don't want to drag this out, since in my opinion this issue is > resolved with comment 57. But I think it's worth noting: > 1) There was no soname bump here. My understanding of Debian Policy > and the Lintian warning is that it does not require

Bug#870078: libsane1 breaks all 3rd party scanner drivers

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 4:30 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 11/01/2017 09:19 PM, Gunter Königsmann wrote: >> When dealing with 3rd-party products any change in upstream sane or >> debian might cause breaks, though. > > And? As I said, this happens all the

Bug#870078: libsane1 breaks all 3rd party scanner drivers

On 11/01/2017 09:19 PM, Gunter Königsmann wrote: > When dealing with 3rd-party products any change in upstream sane or > debian might cause breaks, though. And? As I said, this happens all the time. Seriously. You are phrasing this as if renaming library packages due to an SO bump is an

Bug#870078: libsane1 breaks all 3rd party scanner drivers

> As I said, library transitions happen all the time. Debian's responsibility > lies within the limits of the Debian archive. We can not and we also don't > want to be responsible for any *binary* packages outside the Debian archive. Debian cannot fix the rest of the world in case that it breaks

Bug#870078: libsane1 breaks all 3rd party scanner drivers

Hello Rolf! There are obviously some misconceptions on the Ubuntu side, especially among its users what exactly has happened here and why it happened. First of all, it's not Debian's responsibility if Ubuntu as their downstream pulls a package from the *experimental* distribution without making

Bug#870078: libsane1 breaks all 3rd party scanner drivers

On 11/01/2017 08:21 PM, Rolf Bensch wrote: > This isn't a good idea, because I'm building the ppa from SANE's daily > git snapshots. > > If you decided to rename libsane to libsane1 generally, I can change the > name in my ppa. Can you please take your Ubuntu discussions out of Debian. This

Bug#870078: libsane1 breaks all 3rd party scanner drivers

Am 01.11.2017 um 20:10 schrieb Jeremy Bicha: > Just copy the proposed update libsane-backends > 1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2.1 to your PPA. This isn't a good idea, because I'm building the ppa from SANE's daily git snapshots. If you decided to rename libsane to libsane1 generally, I can change

Bug#870078: libsane1 breaks all 3rd party scanner drivers

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Rolf Bensch wrote: > FYI, this also beaks my Ubuntu PPA Just copy the proposed update libsane-backends 1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2.1 to your PPA. Thanks, Jeremy Bicha

Bug#870078: libsane1 breaks all 3rd party scanner drivers

Hi All, Why have you renamed libsane to libsane1? Debian provides more effective mechanisms for versioning a package than renaming it. FYI, this also beaks my Ubuntu PPA (https://launchpad.net/~rolfbensch/+archive/ubuntu/sane-git), which I'm providing as an Ubuntu using SANE maintainer. Hope

Bug#870078: libsane1 breaks all 3rd party scanner drivers

Hi Jeremy! On 10/25/2017 05:10 AM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > Ok, with help from infinity and RAOF, this solution appears to work. > You can keep the libsane1 package name and you don't have to add a > transitional package. Thanks a lot, we will incorporate that. > > infinity strongly recommended

Bug#870078: libsane1 breaks all 3rd party scanner drivers

Control: tags -1 +patch Ok, with help from infinity and RAOF, this solution appears to work. You can keep the libsane1 package name and you don't have to add a transitional package. infinity strongly recommended the Conflicts instead of Breaks for this situation.

Bug#870078: libsane1 breaks all 3rd party scanner drivers

On 22.10.2017 18:41, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 7:44 PM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > >> I am adding Provides: libsane to Ubuntu's libsane1 and I strongly > >> encourage you to make this

Bug#870078: libsane1 breaks all 3rd party scanner drivers

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 7:44 PM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: >> I am adding Provides: libsane to Ubuntu's libsane1 and I strongly >> encourage you to make this change in Debian also. > > Oops, the Provides

Bug#870078: libsane1 breaks all 3rd party scanner drivers

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 7:44 PM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > I am adding Provides: libsane to Ubuntu's libsane1 and I strongly > encourage you to make this change in Debian also. Oops, the Provides didn't work. I'm guessing because the dependency is versioned. I don't see any

Bug#870078: libsane1 breaks all 3rd party scanner drivers

I am reopening this bug because I think the original reporter's suggestion was right. The fact that he runs Ubuntu doesn't matter for the bug that was reported. Please see the Impact and Test Case I added to the description of https://launchpad.net/bugs/1707352 I am adding Provides: libsane to

Bug#870078: libsane1 breaks all 3rd party scanner drivers

Hello Gunter, the version 1.0.27-1~experimental1ubuntu2 is a Ubuntu specific version. They based on the Debian 1.0.27-1~experimental1 from the branch experimental. Quote from[1]: Experimental is used for packages which are still being developed, and with a high risk of breaking your system.

Bug#870078: libsane1 breaks all 3rd party scanner drivers

Package: libsane1 Version: 1.0.27-1~experimental1ubuntu2 Severity: important Dear Maintainer, There are wishlist bugs already about individual packages no more working after switching from libsane1 to libsane but I think the situation is more grave than that: All 3rd-party scanner drivers that