Bug#893120: debian-edu-install: uninstallable on ahrd disk thrice the size mentioned in manual

2018-03-26 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 04:19:18PM +0200, Wolfgang Schweer wrote: > No. LTSP thin clients are using the desktop installed on the server > side, LTSP diskless workstations the one installed in the chroot. This > should definitly be the same desktop to don't confuse admins. ok. as KDE cannot be

Bug#893120: debian-edu-install: uninstallable on ahrd disk thrice the size mentioned in manual

2018-03-26 Thread Wolfgang Schweer
On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 12:27:03PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > well, whatever we decided anywhere, if there are new information, we > might need to change our decision. It seems to me that we can keep KDE > as default for workstations and standalone, and switch to LXDE for LTSP > clients, can't

Bug#893120: debian-edu-install: uninstallable on ahrd disk thrice the size mentioned in manual

2018-03-26 Thread Holger Levsen
On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 10:24:58PM +0100, Wolfgang Schweer wrote: > > I'm not sure why you advocate only documenting this in the manual, > > instead of changing the default… > The default desktop is set as kernel command line param. This is done > when the ISO image is generated (see e.g.

Bug#893120: debian-edu-install: uninstallable on ahrd disk thrice the size mentioned in manual

2018-03-23 Thread Dominik George
Hi, > In Oslo we discussed about what should be the default desktop (being > MATE at that time); iirc we decided to keep KDE as default but to > recommend LXDE for LTSP clients. On the mailing lists there was feedback > (also after the Stretch release) that LXDE was well suited for LTSP. So >

Bug#893120: debian-edu-install: uninstallable on ahrd disk thrice the size mentioned in manual

2018-03-23 Thread Wolfgang Schweer
On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 08:18:19PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 11:58:52PM +0100, Wolfgang Schweer wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 01:21:33PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > > > isnt this bug a manifestation of three bugs: > > As far as I can tell: only sort of. In the

Bug#893120: debian-edu-install: uninstallable on ahrd disk thrice the size mentioned in manual

2018-03-23 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 11:58:52PM +0100, Wolfgang Schweer wrote: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 01:21:33PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > > isnt this bug a manifestation of three bugs: > As far as I can tell: only sort of. In the first place the bug shows > that communicating how to install different

Bug#893120: debian-edu-install: uninstallable on ahrd disk thrice the size mentioned in manual

2018-03-20 Thread Dominik George
Hi, On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 12:43:58AM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > from irc: > > < Natureshadow> 78 GiB reserved for "debianfreespace" > < Natureshadow> And /var only 5.2 GiB > < h01ger> Natureshadow: mybe put that in the bug? i know, ranting > on irc is fun, but > < h01ger>

Bug#893120: debian-edu-install: uninstallable on ahrd disk thrice the size mentioned in manual

2018-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Schweer
On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 01:21:33PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > isnt this bug a manifestation of three bugs: As far as I can tell: only sort of. In the first place the bug shows that communicating how to install different profiles could be better. Maybe there should be BIG and FAT hints; but

Bug#893120: debian-edu-install: uninstallable on ahrd disk thrice the size mentioned in manual

2018-03-19 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Wolfgang, isnt this bug a manifestation of three bugs: 1. netinst image needs to be redone to include updated packages. (can we build images using stable-proposed-updates?) 2. ltsp default should be lxde clients 3. insufficient diskspace^wfree space on partitions, in general and esp.

Bug#893120: debian-edu-install: uninstallable on ahrd disk thrice the size mentioned in manual

2018-03-18 Thread Dominik George
Hi, >I figure you used 'desktop=kde' (default kernel command line entry, >common for >all profiles); in this single case LTSP installation fails >reproducibly. Yeah, well, that's what I meant by "default". A diversion from defaults is a diversion from defaults, even if some text contradicts

Bug#893120: debian-edu-install: uninstallable on ahrd disk thrice the size mentioned in manual

2018-03-18 Thread Wolfgang Schweer
On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 05:19:01PM +0100, Dominik George wrote: > I spent two days trying to install Debian Edu (combined server) in a > virtual machine. I started with 100 GiB hard disk, then tried 150 GiB, > and finally 220 GiB. The LTSP chroot installation always fails with no > space left in

Bug#893120: debian-edu-install: uninstallable on ahrd disk thrice the size mentioned in manual

2018-03-16 Thread Holger Levsen
hi, from irc: < Natureshadow> 78 GiB reserved for "debianfreespace" < Natureshadow> And /var only 5.2 GiB < h01ger> Natureshadow: mybe put that in the bug? i know, ranting on irc is fun, but < h01ger> and then you could also resize /var during installing... < h01ger>

Bug#893120: debian-edu-install: uninstallable on ahrd disk thrice the size mentioned in manual

2018-03-16 Thread Wolfgang Schweer
Am 2018 3 16 16:19:01 UTC schrieb Dominik George : >Source: debian-edu-install >Version: 1.916 >Severity: grave >Justification: renders package unusable > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA256 > >I spent two days trying to install Debian Edu (combined server) in a

Bug#893120: debian-edu-install: uninstallable on ahrd disk thrice the size mentioned in manual

2018-03-16 Thread Holger Levsen
On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 05:37:04PM +0100, Dominik George wrote: > I very much doubt that the standard configuration can be installed by > anyone right now. then confirm this, but dont inflate severities by believing. and still debian-edu-install also installs other machine types, which work

Bug#893120: debian-edu-install: uninstallable on ahrd disk thrice the size mentioned in manual

2018-03-16 Thread Dominik George
Hi, > > Severity: grave > > Justification: renders package unusable > > but not for everyone, so its just "important". we have had several many > successful installation reports since last year. I very much doubt that the standard configuration can be installed by anyone right now. > > > I

Bug#893120: debian-edu-install: uninstallable on ahrd disk thrice the size mentioned in manual

2018-03-16 Thread Holger Levsen
control: severity -1 important thanks On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 05:19:01PM +0100, Dominik George wrote: > Severity: grave > Justification: renders package unusable but not for everyone, so its just "important". we have had several many successful installation reports since last year. > I spent

Bug#893120: debian-edu-install: uninstallable on ahrd disk thrice the size mentioned in manual

2018-03-16 Thread Dominik George
Source: debian-edu-install Version: 1.916 Severity: grave Justification: renders package unusable -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 I spent two days trying to install Debian Edu (combined server) in a virtual machine. I started with 100 GiB hard disk, then tried 150 GiB, and