On Fri, Sep 07, 2018 at 02:14:15PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Wouter Verhelst writes ("Bug#908155: Coordination with upstream developers
> not universally applied"):
> > To me, the core message of the current text is that you should ensure
> > that bug reports which
Thorsten Glaser writes ("Re: Bug#908155: Coordination with upstream developers
not universally applied"):
> Yes, but that does not mean we should make it permitted by the rules
> to slack in that \u201Cduty\u201D.
I find this rhetoric, that overwhelmed maintainers who are
On Fri, 2018-09-07 at 18:42 +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> Short answer (slightly drunk and short on time), more later:
>
> On Fri, 7 Sep 2018, Ian Jackson wrote:
>
> > In some packages this will not be possible at least for some bug
> > reports. You've seen the poor quality and
Short answer (slightly drunk and short on time), more later:
On Fri, 7 Sep 2018, Ian Jackson wrote:
> In some packages this will not be possible at least for some bug
> reports. You've seen the poor quality and hard-to-follow-up bug
[…]
Yes, but that does not mean we should make it permitted
Thorsten Glaser writes ("Re: Bug#908155: Coordination with upstream developers
not universally applied"):
> As long as it\u2019s a \u201Cshould\u201D in the same sense as
> \u201Cshould fix bugs in their packages\u201D, and package
> maintainers keep an eye on users\u2019 bu
On Fri, 7 Sep 2018, Ian Jackson wrote:
> I think it is usually better if the Debian maintainer can do this.
> I would like to encourage maintainers do do it. But I really don't
> think we can make this mandatory.
Uhm… it’s been mandatory the last couple of years.
> It's all very well to say
On Fri, Sep 07, 2018 at 02:14:15PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Wouter Verhelst writes ("Bug#908155: Coordination with upstream developers
> not universally applied"):
> > To me, the core message of the current text is that you should ensure
> > that bug reports which
Thorsten Glaser writes ("Re: Bug#908155: Coordination with upstream developers
not universally applied"):
> Now that I write it again, there\u2019s another point:
>
> \u2022 the package maintainers not being involved in the discussion
> (dangerous if e.g. upstream s
Wouter Verhelst writes ("Bug#908155: Coordination with upstream developers not
universally applied"):
> To me, the core message of the current text is that you should ensure
> that bug reports which are not Debian-specific end up with upstream,
> *somehow*, whether by the mai
Thorsten Glaser writes ("Bug#908155: Coordination with upstream developers not
universally applied"):
> On Thu, 6 Sep 2018, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
> > That's not the current/best practice for a number of packages,
> > either because of the sheer volume of bug report
Hi Wouter,
> I agree that it's perfectly fine for a maintainer to say "this is an
> upstream bug, please report it upstream", which the current text
> doesn't allow for.
In theory, I could agree to that, were it not for a number of
points I outlined earlier:
• the variety of upstream bug
Hello Moritz,
> On Thu, Sep 06, 2018 at 11:29:52PM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> > I’m trying to be constructive here, but in the end, I still
> > think that this was something package maintainers (at least
> > DDs) have read beforehand and signed up for, so there’s no
> > room to complain now,
On Thu, Sep 06, 2018 at 09:05:04PM +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
> Source: developers-reference
> Severity: normal
>
> "3.1.4. Coordination with upstream developers" says
>
> "You have to forward these bug reports to the upstream developers so that they
> can be fixed in a future upstream
On Thu, Sep 06, 2018 at 11:29:52PM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> I’m trying to be constructive here, but in the end, I still
> think that this was something package maintainers (at least
> DDs) have read beforehand and signed up for, so there’s no
> room to complain now,
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On Thu, 6 Sep 2018, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
> "You have to forward these bug reports to the upstream developers so that they
> can be fixed in a future upstream release."
>
> That's not the current/best practice for a number of packages, either because
> of the sheer volume of bug reports/size
Source: developers-reference
Severity: normal
"3.1.4. Coordination with upstream developers" says
"You have to forward these bug reports to the upstream developers so that they
can be fixed in a future upstream release."
That's not the current/best practice for a number of packages, either
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