Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-21 Thread Sebastian Ramacher
On 2021-06-18 17:42:44 +0200, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: > On 6/18/21 5:19 PM, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > > On 18/06/2021 09.50, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: > >> I'm increasingly in favor of removing the Breaks from gdal-data, the > >> attached procedure works for me in buster chroot. > > > >>

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-18 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
On 6/18/21 5:19 PM, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > On 18/06/2021 09.50, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: >> I'm increasingly in favor of removing the Breaks from gdal-data, the >> attached procedure works for me in buster chroot. > >> There is much less need for gdal-data breaking libgdal20 for us than >>

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-18 Thread Andreas Beckmann
On 18/06/2021 09.50, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: I'm increasingly in favor of removing the Breaks from gdal-data, the attached procedure works for me in buster chroot. There is much less need for gdal-data breaking libgdal20 for us than there is in the UbuntuGIS PPA use case. I'm not aware

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-18 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Sebastiaan Couwenberg > Since the upgrade procedure documented in the release notes includes > purging removed and obsolete packages, users are not expected to keep > libgda20 around after the distribution upgrade. To avoid exactly this problem, postgresql-common is maintaining a list of PG

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-18 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Andreas Beckmann > > modulo the problem I ran into. (I still have to retry it.) > > Didn't see this on my side. > Your --force-depends probably affected more than just libgdal20. Found the problem, I had not restarted postgresql-11 after the upgrade, so it was still linked against the old

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-18 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
On 6/15/21 8:23 AM, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > On 15/06/2021 06.05, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: >>  From the many other packages I haven't seen other issues other than the >> partial upgrade with monteverdi which is fixed with Breaks/Replaces. >> >> I really need more concrete cases to justify

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-18 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
On 6/14/21 1:49 PM, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: > On 6/14/21 1:30 PM, Andreas Beckmann wrote: >> On 14/06/2021 10.06, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: >>> What actual problems do are solved by making them co-installable? >>> >>> So far the only actualy problem that has been identified is the need for

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-17 Thread Andreas Beckmann
On 17/06/2021 15.26, Christoph Berg wrote: Re: Andreas Beckmann * how do I get some tables using the postgis extension into the database to sudo -u postgres psql -vON_ERROR_STOP=1 < Thanks! Once gdal is fixed, I used my patched packages (will try to put them somewhere public tonight)

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-17 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Andreas Beckmann > So packaging wise this looks good. But I have no idea about the postgresql > side: > * how do I get some tables using the postgis extension into the database to > start with? Is there a package in buster that "does that for me" by just > installing it (postgis with

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-17 Thread Andreas Beckmann
OK, I tried it as well. buster# apt-get install postgresql-11-postgis-2.5 # in a minimal chroot, pulls in postgresql-11 # I haven't done anything with postgres, so it should be essentially empty (so only default users, tables, data exist (if any)) buster# apt-get dist-upgrade # to bullseye

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-16 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Adrian Bunk > > FEHLER: XX000: konnte Bibliothek > > »/usr/lib/postgresql/11/lib/postgis-2.5.so« nicht laden: > > /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.29' not found (required > > by /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libSFCGAL.so.1) > > > > So there seems to be some additional

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-16 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 06:15:45PM +0200, Christoph Berg wrote: >... > $ psql cb > psql (13.3 (Debian 13.3-1), Server 11.12 (Debian 11.12-0+deb10u1)) > > 17:38 cbe@cb =# select geom from country where geom is not null limit 1; > FEHLER: XX000: konnte Bibliothek

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-16 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Sebastiaan Couwenberg > Options for a working postgis database after distribution upgrade > include recreating the databases by running your ETL process on the new > cluster after upgrade, or using symlink hacks to workaround the > version-in-extension-filename issue: > >

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-15 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
On 6/15/21 3:55 PM, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: > On 2021-06-15 13:18:23, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: >> On 6/15/21 1:00 PM, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: >>> If neither you as maintainer nor upstream care about upgrade without >>> data loss, I don't think postgis is suitable to be included in a stable

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-15 Thread Sebastian Ramacher
On 2021-06-15 13:18:23, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: > On 6/15/21 1:00 PM, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: > > If neither you as maintainer nor upstream care about upgrade without > > data loss, I don't think postgis is suitable to be included in a stable > > release. Best option moving forward is to

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-15 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
On 6/15/21 1:00 PM, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: > If neither you as maintainer nor upstream care about upgrade without > data loss, I don't think postgis is suitable to be included in a stable > release. Best option moving forward is to get postgis and its reverse > dependencies removed from

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-15 Thread Sebastian Ramacher
On 2021-06-15 06:05:28, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: > On 6/14/21 9:55 PM, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: > > On 2021-06-14 13:49:47 +0200, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: > >> On 6/14/21 1:30 PM, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > >>> On 14/06/2021 10.06, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: > What actual problems

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-15 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
On 6/15/21 8:23 AM, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > On 15/06/2021 06.05, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: >>  From the many other packages I haven't seen other issues other than the >> partial upgrade with monteverdi which is fixed with Breaks/Replaces. >> >> I really need more concrete cases to justify

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-15 Thread Andreas Beckmann
On 15/06/2021 06.05, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: From the many other packages I haven't seen other issues other than the partial upgrade with monteverdi which is fixed with Breaks/Replaces. I really need more concrete cases to justify changes to gdal that I don't like but will have to

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-14 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
On 6/14/21 9:55 PM, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: > On 2021-06-14 13:49:47 +0200, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: >> On 6/14/21 1:30 PM, Andreas Beckmann wrote: >>> On 14/06/2021 10.06, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: What actual problems do are solved by making them co-installable? So far

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-14 Thread Sebastian Ramacher
On 2021-06-14 13:49:47 +0200, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: > On 6/14/21 1:30 PM, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > > On 14/06/2021 10.06, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: > >> What actual problems do are solved by making them co-installable? > >> > >> So far the only actualy problem that has been identified

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-14 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
On 6/14/21 1:30 PM, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > On 14/06/2021 10.06, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: >> What actual problems do are solved by making them co-installable? >> >> So far the only actualy problem that has been identified is the need for >> `apt full-upgrade` twice when the Breaks/Replaces

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-14 Thread Andreas Beckmann
On 14/06/2021 10.06, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: What actual problems do are solved by making them co-installable? So far the only actualy problem that has been identified is the need for `apt full-upgrade` twice when the Breaks/Replaces on libgdal20 is not present. apt currently fails to

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-14 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
On 6/14/21 9:29 AM, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > On 13/06/2021 23.44, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: >> On 2021-06-13 23:35:40 +0200, Andreas Beckmann wrote: >>> On 13/06/2021 22.44, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: My goal is to make libgdal20 and libgdal28 co-installable. Adding those Breaks is not

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-14 Thread Andreas Beckmann
On 13/06/2021 23.44, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: On 2021-06-13 23:35:40 +0200, Andreas Beckmann wrote: On 13/06/2021 22.44, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: My goal is to make libgdal20 and libgdal28 co-installable. Adding those Breaks is not enough and is step into the wrong direction. Thanks for

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-13 Thread Sebastian Ramacher
On 2021-06-13 23:35:40 +0200, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > On 13/06/2021 22.44, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: > > My goal is to make libgdal20 and libgdal28 co-installable. Adding those > > Breaks is not enough and is step into the wrong direction. > > Thanks for making that clear. I'll think again

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-13 Thread Andreas Beckmann
On 13/06/2021 22.44, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: My goal is to make libgdal20 and libgdal28 co-installable. Adding those Breaks is not enough and is step into the wrong direction. Thanks for making that clear. I'll think again about libogdi ... @Seb: could you upload the gdal3-data patch to

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-13 Thread Sebastian Ramacher
On 2021-06-13 17:57:46 +0200, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: > On 6/13/21 11:32 AM, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: > > On 2021-06-13 11:14:45 +0200, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: > >> On 6/13/21 10:58 AM, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > >>> On 13/06/2021 06.45, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: > On 6/12/21

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-13 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
On 6/13/21 11:32 AM, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: > On 2021-06-13 11:14:45 +0200, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: >> On 6/13/21 10:58 AM, Andreas Beckmann wrote: >>> On 13/06/2021 06.45, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: On 6/12/21 10:23 PM, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: > I have unblocked gdal.

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-13 Thread Sebastian Ramacher
On 2021-06-13 11:30:47 +0200, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: > On 6/13/21 11:12 AM, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: > > On 2021-06-13 10:58:19 +0200, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > >> On 13/06/2021 06.45, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: > >>> On 6/12/21 10:23 PM, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: > I have unblocked

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-13 Thread Sebastian Ramacher
On 2021-06-13 11:14:45 +0200, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: > On 6/13/21 10:58 AM, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > > On 13/06/2021 06.45, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: > >> On 6/12/21 10:23 PM, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: > >>> I have unblocked gdal. > >> > >> Thanks, libgdal (3.2.2-1) will need to be

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-13 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
On 6/13/21 11:12 AM, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: > On 2021-06-13 10:58:19 +0200, Andreas Beckmann wrote: >> On 13/06/2021 06.45, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: >>> On 6/12/21 10:23 PM, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: I have unblocked gdal. >>> >>> Thanks, libgdal (3.2.2-1) will need to be unblocked as

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-13 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
On 6/13/21 10:58 AM, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > On 13/06/2021 06.45, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: >> On 6/12/21 10:23 PM, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: >>> I have unblocked gdal. >> >> Thanks, libgdal (3.2.2-1) will need to be unblocked as well, it goes > > libgdal-grass ? Obviously, yes. >> hand in

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-13 Thread Sebastian Ramacher
On 2021-06-13 10:58:19 +0200, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > On 13/06/2021 06.45, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: > > On 6/12/21 10:23 PM, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: > > > I have unblocked gdal. > > > > Thanks, libgdal (3.2.2-1) will need to be unblocked as well, it goes > > libgdal-grass ? > > > hand

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-13 Thread Andreas Beckmann
On 13/06/2021 06.45, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: On 6/12/21 10:23 PM, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: I have unblocked gdal. Thanks, libgdal (3.2.2-1) will need to be unblocked as well, it goes libgdal-grass ? hand in hand with gdal (3.2.2+dfsg-1). libgdal needs the same upstream version of

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-12 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
On 6/12/21 10:23 PM, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: > I have unblocked gdal. Thanks, libgdal (3.2.2-1) will need to be unblocked as well, it goes hand in hand with gdal (3.2.2+dfsg-1). libgdal needs the same upstream version of gdal to build successfully. > Please go ahead with an upload adding a

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-12 Thread Sebastian Ramacher
On 2021-06-11 21:21:09 +0200, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: > On 6/11/21 8:49 PM, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: > > On 2021-06-09 12:41:29 +0200, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: > >> On 6/9/21 12:11 PM, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > >>> On 08/06/2021 11.56, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > gdal can rename

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-11 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
On 6/11/21 8:49 PM, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: > On 2021-06-09 12:41:29 +0200, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: >> On 6/9/21 12:11 PM, Andreas Beckmann wrote: >>> On 08/06/2021 11.56, Andreas Beckmann wrote: gdal can rename gdal-data to gdal3-data, build with --datadir=/sur/share/gdal3 and

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-11 Thread Sebastian Ramacher
On 2021-06-09 12:41:29 +0200, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: > On 6/9/21 12:11 PM, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > > On 08/06/2021 11.56, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > >> gdal can rename gdal-data to gdal3-data, build with > >> --datadir=/sur/share/gdal3 and drop the Breaks on libgdal20. > >> Thus libgdal20 +

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-09 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
On 6/9/21 12:11 PM, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > On 08/06/2021 11.56, Andreas Beckmann wrote: >> gdal can rename gdal-data to gdal3-data, build with >> --datadir=/sur/share/gdal3 and drop the Breaks on libgdal20. >> Thus libgdal20 + gdal-data from buster should be co-installable with >> libgdal28 +

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-09 Thread Andreas Beckmann
On 08/06/2021 11.56, Andreas Beckmann wrote: gdal can rename gdal-data to gdal3-data, build with --datadir=/sur/share/gdal3 and drop the Breaks on libgdal20. Thus libgdal20 + gdal-data from buster should be co-installable with libgdal28 + gdal3-data from bullseye and survive the upgrade if

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-08 Thread Andreas Beckmann
On 08/06/2021 12.22, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: Please spend your time on other more deserving packages. I'm not caring that much about postgis but about getting clean upgrade paths if hdf5 and or gdal are involved because of the (transitive) non-co-installability of

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-08 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
On 6/8/21 11:56 AM, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > Package: release.debian.org > Severity: normal > > Let's start with the debian-release@ discussion here, this may be turned > into an unblock request later. > > On Tue, 18 May 2021 20:36:23 +0200 Dennis Filder wrote: >> One more observation:

Bug#989597: release.debian.org: upgrade issue: non-coinstallability of libgdal20 and libgdal28

2021-06-08 Thread Andreas Beckmann
Package: release.debian.org Severity: normal Let's start with the debian-release@ discussion here, this may be turned into an unblock request later. On Tue, 18 May 2021 20:36:23 +0200 Dennis Filder wrote: > One more observation: Bullseye's gdal-data 3.2.1+dfsg-1 defines a > Breaks: libgdal20