Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

I am CC'ing the accessibility list hoping that they might have an insight to what is happening. I have quoted the original mail in full below for their sake. I'm not yet a Stretch user but the Orca developer has submitted a patch to fix this bug : take a look at

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

Control: tags -1 pending Control: owner -1 Hi all, On 02-05-17 21:48, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: > On 05/02/2017 03:26 PM, Paul Gevers wrote: > >> @Joanmarie, did you get any feedback on the Orca list? > > Nope. I take that to mean all is well. If this bug doesn't receive negative feedback about

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Processing control commands: > tags -1 pending Bug #859262 [gnome-orca] gnome-orca: Gets stuck if target app is busy Added tag(s) pending. > owner -1 Unknown command or malformed arguments to command. -- 859262: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=859262 Debian Bug Tracking System

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

On 05/02/2017 03:26 PM, Paul Gevers wrote: > @Joanmarie, did you get any feedback on the Orca list? Nope. I take that to mean all is well. --joanie

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

Hi all, On 30-04-17 21:09, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: > From your output I see you clicked on the Apply button in Synaptic, a > bunch of events from DEAD accessible objects resulted, that Orca kept > processing events, presented the window you Alt+Tabbed into, etc. > > Having said that, if memory

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

Thanks Paul. >From your output I see you clicked on the Apply button in Synaptic, a bunch of events from DEAD accessible objects resulted, that Orca kept processing events, presented the window you Alt+Tabbed into, etc. Having said that, if memory serves me, even before the changes I made, Orca

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

Hi Joanmarie, On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 11:51:28 -0400 Joanmarie Diggs wrote: > I've asked on the Orca list for testing, and we have enough users that > use master and respond quite quickly to calls for testing, that we > should know soon enough. As you have seen, I already created

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

Hello On 04/29/2017 09:42 PM, Paul Gevers wrote: Hi Mika, Tim, On 29-04-17 17:51, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: And to prepare for fixes of the package in Debian (which is 3.22.2 and will be extremely hard convince the release managers to update in this stage due to the freeze), which fixes would

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

Samuel, On 29-04-17 17:51, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: > I believe I've already said this, but I'll say it again: Getting to the > bottom of the Synaptic and/or AT-SPI problem(s) should be done. Do you think we should clone/open a bug for atspi? If so, what severity level (assuming we can get orca in

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

Hi Mika, Tim, On 29-04-17 17:51, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: >> And to prepare for fixes of the package in Debian (which is 3.22.2 and >> will be extremely hard convince the release managers to update in this >> stage due to the freeze), which fixes would we need to backport to fix >> the issues

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

On 04/29/2017 10:55 AM, Paul Gevers wrote: > And to prepare for fixes of the package in Debian (which is 3.22.2 and > will be extremely hard convince the release managers to update in this > stage due to the freeze), which fixes would we need to backport to fix > the issues identified so far?

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

Hi Joanmarie, On 28-04-17 21:46, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: > Therefore, before you try to log other issues, would you mind pulling > master or the gnome-3-24 branch so you have the latest? I checked out the gnome-3-24 branch and tried to build¹ a Debian package from that, that I could install. With

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

So I just handled the value-related "The process appears to be hung" exception. I saw that you also had the name-related exception. But the line number suggests to me that you don't have another change I made, namely to return immediately in isLayoutOnly() if obj is dead. I'm not positive, but I'm

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

It identifies an unhandled exception which I can handle. Again, that may or may not magically make Orca present synaptic. Thanks for the log! --joanie On 04/28/2017 03:08 PM, Paul Gevers wrote: > Hi, > > On 23-04-17 19:27, Paul Gevers wrote: >> On 23-04-17 15:32, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: >>> That

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

Hi, On 23-04-17 19:27, Paul Gevers wrote: > On 23-04-17 15:32, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: >> That segfault is an AT-SPI2 bug. And apparently an elusive one. >> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=767074 > > Just to get things straight, do you mean here that you do or that you > don't believe

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

Hi Joanmarie, On 23-04-17 15:32, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: > That segfault is an AT-SPI2 bug. And apparently an elusive one. > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=767074 Just to get things straight, do you mean here that you do or that you don't believe this segfault has anything to do with

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

That segfault is an AT-SPI2 bug. And apparently an elusive one. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=767074 On 04/23/2017 04:46 AM, Paul Gevers wrote: > Hi Joanmarie, > > Yesterday, I send you a log while Synaptic had not much to do, because I > ran it earlier the same day (so maybe the

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

Hi Joanmarie, Yesterday, I send you a log while Synaptic had not much to do, because I ran it earlier the same day (so maybe the original issue wasn't there). Today I tried again, hoping that there were updates to apply, which there were. orca segfaulted on me. Please see the attached stack

Bug#859262: Fwd: Re: Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

es you. Reply-To set to > the bug. > > Paul > > > Forwarded Message ---- > Subject: Re: Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader > Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 21:07:08 +0200 > From: Paul Gevers <elb...@debian.org> > To: Joanmarie Diggs <jdi..

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

Hi Joanmarie, On 19-04-17 22:35, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: > Please send me a full debug.out, captured from Orca master or Orca > 3.24.x (i.e. current stable). Instructions here: > https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca/Debugging I hope the attached log contains enough information for you to work it

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

On 04/19/2017 04:28 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Niels Thykier, on mer. 19 avril 2017 20:19:00 +, wrote: >> Time to hunt for some dbus experts who can tell us why a process might >> fail to respond to a ping. > > Well, the application could simply be busy doing other stuff, like > processing

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

Niels Thykier, on mer. 19 avril 2017 20:19:00 +, wrote: > Time to hunt for some dbus experts who can tell us why a process might > fail to respond to a ping. Well, the application could simply be busy doing other stuff, like processing huge packages lists for synaptic. And that's not a

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

Paul Gevers: > Hi > > On 19-04-17 01:13, Niels Thykier wrote: >> Reading the log file, we at least have one bug in Orca itself (a Python >> "NameError"). I am not entirely sure whether this bug triggers the >> "hung" process or the "hung" process triggers the "NameError". > > Not sure if you

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

Hi On 19-04-17 01:13, Niels Thykier wrote: > Reading the log file, we at least have one bug in Orca itself (a Python > "NameError"). I am not entirely sure whether this bug triggers the > "hung" process or the "hung" process triggers the "NameError". Not sure if you (Niels) looked at the code,

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Processing control commands: > reassign -1 gnome-orca Bug #859262 [synaptic] freezes Orca screen reader Bug reassigned from package 'synaptic' to 'gnome-orca'. No longer marked as found in versions synaptic/0.84.2. Ignoring request to alter fixed versions of bug #859262 to the same values

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

Control: reassign -1 gnome-orca Control: affects -1 synaptic Tim Retout: > Hey, > > I managed to reproduce this issue by: > > 1) running orca and synaptic > 2) clicking "Reload" > 3) clicking "Mark all upgrades" > 4) clicking "Apply" and proceeding to install ~12 packages. > > Orca stopped

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

Paul Gevers: > Forwarding the request for information to the submitter directly, he may > not be subscribed to this bug. > > [...] > > Paul > Thanks for noticing I had missed that explicit CC. :) ~Niels

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

Forwarding the request for information to the submitter directly, he may not be subscribed to this bug. On 11-04-17 09:53, Niels Thykier wrote: > On Tue, 04 Apr 2017 13:18:00 + Niels Thykier wrote: >> On Sat, 01 Apr 2017 13:54:17 +0300 Mika Hanhijärvi

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

On Tue, 04 Apr 2017 13:18:00 + Niels Thykier wrote: > On Sat, 01 Apr 2017 13:54:17 +0300 Mika Hanhijärvi wrote: > > Package: synaptic > > Version: 0.84.2 > > Severity: grave > > > > > Hi Mika, > > Sorry to hear that synaptic is causing you issues. > >

Bug#859262: Re: freezes Orca screen reader

On Sat, 01 Apr 2017 13:54:17 +0300 Mika Hanhijärvi wrote: > Package: synaptic > Version: 0.84.2 > Severity: grave > Hi Mika, Sorry to hear that synaptic is causing you issues. I am CC'ing the accessibility list hoping that they might have an insight to what is happening. I