Bug#727708: systemd-shim uploaded to NEW

2013-12-31 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 09:52:37PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Ian Jackson Steve Langasek writes (Bug#727708: systemd-shim uploaded to NEW): So I repeat here my request that the systemd maintainers make a suitable split of the systemd binary package, so that systemd-shim

Bug#727708: systemd-shim uploaded to NEW

2013-12-31 Thread Josh Triplett
Steve Langasek wrote: Looking more closely, I find that one of the conflicting files is a conffile (/etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.freedesktop.systemd1.conf). diversions and conffiles still don't mix, AFAIK (and according to current policy). So that seems to still leave us without a proper

Bug#727708: systemd-shim uploaded to NEW

2013-12-31 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org, 2013-12-30, 19:42: dpkg-divert is the usual answer when you need/want to replace something without the consent of the other side. FWIW, Policy §3.9 reads: “You should not use ‘dpkg-divert’ on a file belonging to another package without consulting the

Bug#727708: systemd-shim uploaded to NEW

2013-12-31 Thread Ian Jackson
Steve Langasek writes (Bug#727708: systemd-shim uploaded to NEW): On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 06:29:10PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: This would be quite wrong; Replaces is not supposed to be used like that (but you apparently know that). Yes. Raphaël rightly points out that dpkg-divert can

Bug#727708: systemd-shim uploaded to NEW

2013-12-31 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 01:16:32AM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote: Steve Langasek wrote: Looking more closely, I find that one of the conflicting files is a conffile (/etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.freedesktop.systemd1.conf). diversions and conffiles still don't mix, AFAIK (and according to current

Bug#727708: systemd-shim uploaded to NEW

2013-12-31 Thread Andrew Shadura
Hello, On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 13:07:22 -0800 Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org wrote: For the record, logind is not the only issue here. It's logind, timedated, hostnamed, localed which are needed by GNOME. This doesn't actually change the work involved in forking the package; but I think it

Bug#727708: systemd-shim uploaded to NEW

2013-12-30 Thread Ian Jackson
Steve Langasek writes (Bug#727708: systemd-shim uploaded to NEW): So I repeat here my request that the systemd maintainers make a suitable split of the systemd binary package, so that systemd-shim will be coinstallable with the systemd-provided implementations of the other dbus services

Bug#727708: systemd-shim uploaded to NEW

2013-12-30 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013, Ian Jackson wrote: The only alternative I see is for systemd-shim to declare a Replaces: against systemd without a Conflicts, This would be quite wrong; Replaces is not supposed to be used like that (but you apparently know that). How do the systemd maintainers

Bug#727708: systemd-shim uploaded to NEW

2013-12-30 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Ian Jackson Steve Langasek writes (Bug#727708: systemd-shim uploaded to NEW): So I repeat here my request that the systemd maintainers make a suitable split of the systemd binary package, so that systemd-shim will be coinstallable with the systemd-provided implementations of the other

Bug#727708: systemd-shim uploaded to NEW

2013-12-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 06:29:10PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: Steve Langasek writes (Bug#727708: systemd-shim uploaded to NEW): So I repeat here my request that the systemd maintainers make a suitable split of the systemd binary package, so that systemd-shim will be coinstallable

Re: Bug#727708: systemd-shim uploaded to NEW

2013-12-30 Thread Josh Triplett
Tollef Fog Heen wrote: Initially, by waiting for the ctte to come to a conclusion. If that is that systemd should be the default init system I think we should solve the problem by not solving it. If the decision is that another init system should be solved, I'm probably going to solve it by

Bug#727708: systemd-shim uploaded to NEW

2013-12-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 01:03:48PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: This would be quite wrong; Replaces is not supposed to be used like that (but you apparently know that). Yes. Raphaël rightly points out that dpkg-divert can be used for this; if necessary, that's what I'll do. But I still

Bug#727708: systemd-shim uploaded to NEW

2013-12-28 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 07:50:11PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: I've just uploaded the systemd-shim package to the NEW queue. This package has been marked for ACCEPT. Please feel free to test it once dinstall runs and it gets sync'd to your local friendly mirror. Cheers, Paul -- .''`.