bug tracking web pages not up-to-date?

1997-05-28 Thread Christian Schwarz
Hi! The web pages on www.cl.cam.ac.uk of our Bug Tracking System seemed pretty old so I checked out http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/iwj10/debian-bugs/db/zstamp.html and it says: The last updatewas at 05:39:04 GMT Fri 23 May; the logs are usually checked every 30 minutes and updated if

time stops on latest kernels

1997-05-28 Thread Rob Browning
Is anyone else running the latest unstable kernels on a uniprocessor? I have noticed that with many of the recent kernels (including 2.1.40), time appears to be stopped. With these kernels, on my machine clock never returns anything but zero, and things like procmeter never register anything for

Re: Upcoming Debian Releases

1997-05-28 Thread Kevin Dalley
David Welton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I suppose it really isn't my place to say this, but would it not be possible to fix a few of the cosmetic bugs while we are waiting? A few that come to mind are the Pacific/Pacific-New conflict in timezone, which is going to chalk up 1 bug in the

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi. Jason == Jason Gunthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jason On 26 May 1997, Rob Browning wrote: Rob What do you do about packages whose upstream source is already Rob being managed by CVS and already has $Id$ markers, etc in it? Jason Nothing. When you check it into CVS it will rewrite all of

Re: long list of give away or orphaned packages

1997-05-28 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
On May 27, Vincent Renardias wrote On Tue, 27 May 1997, Christian Schwarz wrote: The new section should appear in the archive under the directory project/orpahned. It will store the binary/sources of orphaned packages, but also the bug reports of the dropped packages. But

Re: Upgrading from 1.1 to frozen

1997-05-28 Thread Ian Jackson
Do dpkg-ftp or dpkg-mountable modify /var/lib/dpkg/available directly ? If so then that is why this problem (older dpkg versions not understanding epochs) has such serious consequences. If you tried to dpkg --merge-available or dpkg --update-available with a Packages file that the

kernel header files : problems (yes, again)

1997-05-28 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
hy. ok, i have libc5-dev installed without changing anything with the header files. and i have the current kernel source and headers installed. i'm kompiling a program, that needs to access current kernel headers (isdnutils), so i compile it with -I/usr/src/linux/include . the problem : there

Re: Upgrading from 1.1 to frozen

1997-05-28 Thread Andy Mortimer
On May 28, Ian Jackson wrote Do dpkg-ftp or dpkg-mountable modify /var/lib/dpkg/available directly ? I doubt it. Certainly dpkg-mountable never modifies any system files directly, since (as I'm sure you're aware) this is a rather silly thing to do, and IIRC from reading the dpkg-ftp source

Re: kernel header files : problems (yes, again)\

1997-05-28 Thread joost witteveen
hy. ok, i have libc5-dev installed without changing anything with the header files. and i have the current kernel source and headers installed. i'm kompiling a program, that needs to access current kernel headers (isdnutils), so i compile it with -I/usr/src/linux/include . You mean that

cvs.debian.org [Was: Using CVS for package development]

1997-05-28 Thread Brian White
great. since i meet other debian developers at the linux congress, i my a big friend of a cvs server with all debian packages. does anyone have a server with enough hard disks and a good conection to run it ? We are running cvs.debian.org over an ISDN line. Currently the only code under it is

Re: long list of give away or orphaned packages

1997-05-28 Thread Brian White
the list of debian packges needing a new maintainer is growing all the time. so - what about removeing some packages, if they are no longer maintained, or (better) moving them into section contrib (or a new section orphaned ?). There is a project/orphaned directory where things can be put

Re: Upcoming Debian Releases

1997-05-28 Thread Brian White
This was incorrect... *** *** *** Release of Bo is HOLDING for CRITICAL BUGS!*** *** *** *** There is one remaining critical bug that must be

a good permission setting for busmouse devices

1997-05-28 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
hy. there was a message on bugtraq, that you can kill a system by playing with psaux. currently all busmouse devices are mod 666. so, what are good permissions for these devices (and user / group) ? regards, andreas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to

Re: posix time / 822-date problem

1997-05-28 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
On May 27, Guy Maor wrote Andreas Jellinghaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: my 822-date says : local timezone differs from GMT by a non-minute interval local time: Tue May 27 19:22:48 1997 GMT time: Tue May 27 17:23:08 1997 how to correkt this (it's very ugly - debmake and dch are

Re: GOAL: Consistent Keyboard Configuration

1997-05-28 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Frey) wrote on 27.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: AltGr is a special modifier: it is a kind of Hyper key if you want (with Alt == Meta). Ah yes, this brings up a point: *Don't* use Alt=(bit 0x80)! This won't work for most people (anybody that needs more than ASCII).

Re: base-files does not create /usr/local directories

1997-05-28 Thread Brian White
In fact, as part of the Deity project, I'd like to do something a little more elaborate. I'd like to be able to remove or change any arbitrary path. (This was originally Behan's idea, actually.) Ok, then I'd suggest I change the proposed section in our Policy to state that currently,

Re: Upcoming Debian Releases

1997-05-28 Thread Thomas Koenig
Bo is currently a release candidate. It will become an official release as soon as the testing group okays it. What about Bug #10165? Is not being able to boot after an upgrade critical? -- Thomas Koenig, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] The joy of engineering is to find a straight line on

Re: GOAL: Consistent Keyboard Configuration

1997-05-28 Thread Raul Miller
David Frey: PS: I was never able to reliably switch the Ctrl/CapsLock key a la Sun. On May 28, Kai Henningsen wrote And don't do this as a standard feature, either - CapsLock is bad enough on its own, but switching it with Ctrl would make a keyboard just about unusable for me. The way I

How to re-install installed packages?

1997-05-28 Thread Amos Shapira
Hello, Is there a way to force dpkg to find all the installed packages and re-install them? One of my Debian (bo) installations went through a badly handled tar (i.e. many file attributes were lost). Thanks, --Amos --Amos Shapira| Of course Australia was marked for 133

Re: a.s.r manpages

1997-05-28 Thread Buddha Buck
I am about to create a package (in fact it's ready) with alt.sysadmin.recovery man pages (things like lart, sysadmin, etc.) So, first of all I'd like to check if there are no other people working on it and if the others think this should be put into Debian. And another question - I'm not sure

Re: How to re-install installed packages?

1997-05-28 Thread J.H.M.Dassen
On May 28, Amos Shapira wrote Is there a way to force dpkg to find all the installed packages and re-install them? One of my Debian (bo) installations went through a badly handled tar (i.e. many file attributes were lost). Guessing from dpkg --help, dpkg --selected-only --refuse-downgrade

Re: How to re-install installed packages?

1997-05-28 Thread Amos Shapira
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (J.H.M.Dassen) wrote: |On May 28, Amos Shapira wrote | Is there a way to force dpkg to find all the installed packages and | re-install them? One of my Debian (bo) installations went through a | badly handled tar (i.e. many file attributes were lost). | |Guessing from dpkg

Re: cvs.debian.org [Was: Using CVS for package development]

1997-05-28 Thread Jim Pick
We are running cvs.debian.org over an ISDN line. Currently the only code under it is the Deity project. I can make other source trees and set up other users if others want to do distributed development this way. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to set up world read access yet because

Re: a.s.r manpages

1997-05-28 Thread Joey Hess
Buddha Buck: Personally, I question placing them in the main distribution at all (including non-free and contrib). I have nothing wrong with the contents (if available, it would be installed on my system rather quickly), but rather the unwanted publicity it could cause. I packaged up some

Re: cvs.debian.org [Was: Using CVS for package development]

1997-05-28 Thread Mark Eichin
because CVS always wants write access to the directory (for lock files) Yep. I've seen patches for this at MIT, but I don't think they're in the mainline... You've also got some potentially major access control problems; look at what freebsd does, and consider that you *don't* want general

Re: cvs.debian.org [Was: Using CVS for package development]

1997-05-28 Thread Brian White
because CVS always wants write access to the directory (for lock files) Yep. I've seen patches for this at MIT, but I don't think they're in the mainline... You've also got some potentially major access control problems; look at what freebsd does, and consider that you *don't* want

Re: Upgrading from 1.1 to frozen

1997-05-28 Thread Guy Maor
Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do dpkg-ftp or dpkg-mountable modify /var/lib/dpkg/available directly ? No, it doesn't. It keeps its own copies of the Packages files in /var/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp and correctly merges them in with --merge-avail. If you tried to dpkg --merge-available or

Re: posix time / 822-date problem

1997-05-28 Thread Guy Maor
Andreas Jellinghaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: thank you. i had timezones 2.03 installed (is that related to glibc ?). removing it and re-installing timezone helped. Yes, but timezones should be using POSIX time by default, not right time! Helmut, is it not? Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS

Re: cvs.debian.org [Was: Using CVS for package development]

1997-05-28 Thread Michael Neuffer
On Wed, 28 May 1997, Jim Pick wrote: We are running cvs.debian.org over an ISDN line. Currently the only code under it is the Deity project. I can make other source trees and set up other users if others want to do distributed development this way. Unfortunately, I haven't been

Re: long list of give away or orphaned packages

1997-05-28 Thread jwalther
On Wed, 28 May 1997, Brian White wrote: Perhaps we could integrate this with the new developer screening. To become a new developer, you must take over one of the orphaned packages. This idea was raised before. *please*. Do not do this. If you have some enthusiastic developer come along

Re: long list of give away or orphaned packages

1997-05-28 Thread David Welton
On Wed, 28 May 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On another note. Is your screening process too vigorous? What happened | to the EPIC irc package that was discussed here a while back? I dont see | it in the distribution. Perhaps the screening process was too harsh? I am alive and well, as is

cvs-buildpackage: CVS trees and automated builds

1997-05-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi guys, I have converted all my packages over to my CVS build tree, and have succesfully exported, and built packages by one command: __ cvs-buildpackage -rsudo run in my working directory. So, I can compile all the packages I want by just running: __ cd

Re: a.s.r manpages

1997-05-28 Thread Mark Baker
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Look at it this way: I don't think any of the man pages mention ASR at all. So the only person who is going to connect ASR with the package is someone who looks at the package description. Who's most likly to do that?

Re: Sysvinit and System.map (Was: dangling symlink System.map)

1997-05-28 Thread Yann Dirson
Guy Maor writes: Yann Dirson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Don't know either. But it's been some time I wonder why this link isn't updated on boot to point to boot/System.map-`uname -r`, or suppress the link and issue a warning if the latter is absent. This would ensure correctness, I

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-28 Thread Yann Dirson
Rob Browning writes: I guess I was looking for -ko, since you wouldn't want to be rewriting the $Id$ values for the upstream source unless you actually changed things, and even then it's kind of iffy since your tree has nothing to do with theirs. In addition, without -ko, you'd get a

Re: long list of give away or orphaned packages

1997-05-28 Thread Jim Pick
Im not dissing your work, its excellent ;) Just hoping things can be a little more open... It seems like its getting to be an old boys club. You guys are pretty mature compared to the IRC channels, but it seems that already the administration is top heavy, taking away a lot of coding/devel

Re: runlevels [was Re: Upcoming Debian Releases]

1997-05-28 Thread Yann Dirson
Alexander Koch writes: ~ # init Usage: init 0123456SsQqAaBbCc 1 is already multiuser, no networking (iirc). single-user is S or s (just like using the single as argument for lilo)! 2 is networking (basic, inn comes up etc) 3 is full networking (whatever you desire) 4 and 5 is to

Taking over e2fsprogs ?

1997-05-28 Thread Yann Dirson
To Michael: Has anybody postulated to take over maintainance of the package ? If not, I'm a volunteer... Please let me know. Regards, -- Yann Dirson e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://monge.univ-mlv.fr/~dirson -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL

default file perms

1997-05-28 Thread Tim Sailer
I have a client that just got carried away (as root of course) with a chmod -R in the wrong dir. I really miss the chkperms stuff deom $CO at times like this... so, I'm going to write one in perl. Since each package has a .list file already, would it be a big deal to have each developer to add a

Re: default file perms

1997-05-28 Thread Vincent Renardias
On Wed, 28 May 1997, Tim Sailer wrote: I have a client that just got carried away (as root of course) with a chmod -R in the wrong dir. I really miss the chkperms stuff deom $CO at times like this... so, I'm going to write one in perl. Since each package has a .list file already, would it be

Re: Sysvinit and System.map (Was: dangling symlink System.map)

1997-05-28 Thread Guy Maor
Yann Dirson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW, psupdate is the only program I can think about using System.map. Are there any other ? klogd Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Re: default file perms

1997-05-28 Thread Tim Sailer
In your email to me, Vincent Renardias, you wrote: On Wed, 28 May 1997, Tim Sailer wrote: I have a client that just got carried away (as root of course) with a chmod -R in the wrong dir. I really miss the chkperms stuff deom $CO at times like this... so, I'm going to write one in

policy about putting packages into frozen ?

1997-05-28 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
hy. what is the policy about putting packages into frozen ? AFAIk only bug fixes are allowed. my problem is the isdn package : the new version was released (beta1) this week, and it was tested a long time (public cvs tree). now it has a documentation (not all binaries but at least some), some

Where should users have their temp files?

1997-05-28 Thread Thomas Koenig
There are some nasty attacks with links and symlinks in temp directories (see bugtraq for an extended list). Some programs solve this by putting temp files in home directories. This is clearly suboptimal (networked home directory, quotas, ...). /tmp and /var/tmp are there for a good reason.

Re: Upgrading from 1.1 to frozen

1997-05-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, No, niether dpkg-ftp nor dpkg-mountable modify the available file directly. What, then, causes the problems upgrading to frozen? Methinks (despite the tone of your remarks) that the problem then does in fact lie in dpkg; as it seems to accept a packages file that it consequently

Re: kernel header files : problems (yes, again)

1997-05-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, If you really need kernel header files, then the name of your package should be isdnutils-2.0.30, and the preinst should check the uname output, and possibly refuse to install. If the name is not isdnutils-2.0.30, please explain why you think the package needs kernel

Re: Where should users have their temp files?

1997-05-28 Thread Guy Maor
A better solution would be if applications always opened files in /tmp with O_CREAT | O_EXCL. tmpfile(3) does this but the file is always 644. I think there should be a tmpfilem(mode_t) where the mode could be specified. I was forced to implement my own tmpfile(3) from tmpnam(3) to fix similiar

Re: Bug#8416: lprng: should recommend removing init.d script of lpr

1997-05-28 Thread Sven Rudolph
Christian Meder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Package: lprng Version: 2.4.2-1 lprng conflicts with lpr. After removing lpr there is still the init.d script of lpr (conffile) around. So after booting both scripts are starting the lpd. lprng should take care of this situation by either

Re: Sysvinit and System.map (Was: dangling symlink System.map)

1997-05-28 Thread Raul Miller
On May 28, Yann Dirson wrote BTW, psupdate is the only program I can think about using System.map. Are there any other ? lsof -- Raul -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Re: default file perms

1997-05-28 Thread Jim Pick
dpkg-cert already does something like this. Klee is going to fold the capabilities of dpkg-cert into dpkg, so I think a solution is on the horizon. :-) We just have to wait patiently for Klee and his upcoming proposal to overhaul dpkg. Cheers, - Jim pgpD2sxtAmlaW.pgp Description: PGP

Re: Bug#8416: lprng: should recommend removing init.d script of lpr

1997-05-28 Thread Raul Miller
On May 29, Sven Rudolph wrote IMHO this should be changed in such cases: - run `update-rc.d -f lpd remove /dev/null' on remove and purge Better to chmod -x the lpd file, because that looses less information. [lpd postinst would have to chmod +x the file, so it's still not perfect.] -- Raul