Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
On 1 Jun 1997, Mark Eichin wrote:
I believe libc5.so is LGPL...
I don't. /usr/doc/libc5//copyright doesn't *mention* the LGPL *at
all*, though the libc6 one mentions both.
Yep, the copyright file does not mention the LGPL at all. This seems to me
to be
Rob Browning wrote:
Galen Hazelwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think it also chooses some instructions differently for a 486, and
these choices are also good on the pentium. That's why, when building
binaries for my use, I use -m486 but add flags which turn off the
alignment.
Yes, very limiting. The code actually cannot be linked statically!
Can't be linked dynamically either... read the GPL.
Cheers,
- Jim
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Amos Or an audit-trail of invocations of dpkg (e.g. adduser 3.1-2
Amos installed and configured successfully on Wed May 29 1997 00:00:23,
Amos replaced adduser-3.1-0)
Darren I asked for this a while back and was told that not very many
Darren people wanted it. I still think it would
On Sun, 1 Jun 1997, Jim Pick wrote:
Yes, very limiting. The code actually cannot be linked statically!
Can't be linked dynamically either... read the GPL.
I'm not sure from a copyright standpoint how that works. A copyright
means that you are protected from me using your copyrighted
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christian Schwarz) wrote on 01.06.97 in [EMAIL
PROTECTED]:
Where is the arch specification string used, i.e. what will break if we
change it to be i386-linux on intel systems?
I'm not competent enough to answer this.
Vincent Renardias [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Has any of you had a look at this:
ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/Incoming/pttyd-0.9.tgz
[its LSM file says:
Description:The Pseudo-tty Daemon. Changes ownership on the slave
pseudo-tty's in an appropriate manner,
From: Mark Eichin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
As for OSS -- I had the impression that if I submitted patches to make
the modules *accept* command line arguments, they wouldn't be
included. But yeah, if they're straight GPL'ed that's good enough; I
could still distribute such patches even if they
From: Enrique Zanardi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Only NON-COMMERCIAL distribution allowed.
That puts it in non-free.
Redistribution of modified versions by other people than myself is not
allowed.
That too. We are going to start supporting unmodified source + Debian
deltas, but never unmodified
I just brought this up, since it was my understanding that if you
want to write a commercial program (ie. not under the GPL), and
link it against cygwin.dll, you've got to pay Cygnus $$$. Not all
that different than the restrictions on Qt, really.
Actually, it is different. GPL-ed software
Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sun, 1 Jun 1997, joost witteveen wrote:
Non-free it is
No. If the author forbids distribution a changed (i.e. bug fixed)
_binary_ version, I think the package may not even go into non-free.
What do the others think?
Before we go off
On Sun, 1 Jun 1997, Galen Hazelwood wrote:
Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
On 1 Jun 1997, Mark Eichin wrote:
I believe libc5.so is LGPL...
I don't. /usr/doc/libc5//copyright doesn't *mention* the LGPL *at
all*, though the libc6 one mentions both.
Yep, the copyright file does
On Sun, 1 Jun 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:
Someone who wanted to put the effort into supporting the drivers and could
convince Linus to go along could probably change the situation - I hope such
a person comes along.
There is something called the UltraSound Project. They have made OSS
interface
On 2 Jun 1997, Kai Henningsen wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Gunthorpe) wrote on 01.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 1 Jun 1997, Mark Eichin wrote:
I believe libc5.so is LGPL...
I don't. /usr/doc/libc5//copyright doesn't *mention* the LGPL *at
all*, though the libc6 one
On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Christian Hudon wrote:
On Jun 1, Jason Gunthorpe wrote
There is something called the UltraSound Project. They have made OSS
interface compatible drivers for the various GUS based cards. But they are
not included in the official kernel, you have to get it and build
Now, when you link -- statically or dynamically -- you are including
portions of libc5 in your binary. This results in your binary being
Umm, no, actually -- the whole point of dynamic linking is that you're
*not* including portions of libc5 in your binary. A replacement libc5
that met the
On 2 Jun 1997, Mark Eichin wrote:
For some more perspective on the interface argument, go back and see
some of the flaming a year or two ago about the GNU libmp (multiple
precision integer math library.) See also the discussion of just a
week or three ago about a company shipping a
For some more perspective on the interface argument, go back and see
some of the flaming a year or two ago about the GNU libmp (multiple
precision integer math library.)
Actually, I had a very similar polite argument with RMS via private e-mail
(about linking Java libs with mixed
Is there someone else who might take this packaging? I don't have time yet.
Erick
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Subject: Info package: .dsc
There already is a tkinfo package (version 1.3). cas [EMAIL PROTECTED] is
listed as the maintainer.
Cheers,
- Jim
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Hello,
for SmallEiffel (which I am packaging) to work at all, it needs an
env-variable to be set. Should it be set with a preinst-script? I
wouldn't like that to happen to my system, but I don't see any other
way, if it should be set at all. Should I just put a prominent note
in
On May 28, 12:55pm, Joey Hess wrote:
Buddha Buck:
Personally, I question placing them in the main distribution at all
(including non-free and contrib). I have nothing wrong with the
contents (if available, it would be installed on my system rather
quickly), but rather the unwanted
On May 30, 2:40pm, Martin Alonso Soto Jacome wrote:
Hi all:
I just downloaded the enlightenment window manager (see
http://www.cse.unsw.EDU.AU/~s2154962/enlightenment/). It is somewhat slow
and
requieres a lot of memory and disk, but is very funny to see, anyway.
It's a
On Sun, 1 Jun 1997, Thomas Koenig wrote:
I don't think it does any optimization at all for pentium.
Correct. Of course, there's the experimental pgcc (http://www.goof.com/,
if anybody wants to look).
I'd like to pack this up and stuff it into experimental, if I had a
little more time
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I just had a look at ftp.xfree86.org.
They finally have 3.3 out.
Mike
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Michael Neuffer wrote:
This is not necessary. gcc 2.8 includes the pentium optimizations
from pgcc.
All of it?
My impression from the pgcc FAQ at http://www.goof.com/ was that only
some optimizations (mostly instruction scheduling) will be taken from
pgcc. The rather active pgcc development
As I've already written I prepared asr-manpages...
And there are more packages I'm working on now:
- slay - tiny script to kill all processes a user has. This is ready.
- asmail - a utility similar to xbiff but with more power and AfterStep
look and feel. This isn't done yet, but will be soon.
Hi all,
I'm writing my phd-thesis at the moment and time is getting
shorter, so I do have to give away the ssh-package. I should
be taken by someone in the *free world*.
The next thing to do would be to split the package into
a us and a non-us version (i.e., with-out and with rsaref compiled).
[ I've not been following this thread too closely,
so if I've got the wrong idea, please forgive me ]
The GPL is a very restrictive license. In many ways, it is just as
restrictive as the Qt license. Particularily in the case of libraries,
using it as Cygnus is doing (to make money) goes
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for SmallEiffel (which I am packaging) to work at all, it needs an
env-variable to be set.
Is it not possible to patch the program, to default to the value that you were
going to write into /etc/profile ?
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I'm writing my phd-thesis at the moment and time is getting
shorter, so I do have to give away the ssh-package. I should
be taken by someone in the *free world*.
Ok, I'll take it --- I use it all the time anyway, so it should be no hardship.
Also, it's about time I tried a multi-target
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write:
On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Christian Hudon wrote:
On Jun 1, Jason Gunthorpe wrote
There is something called the UltraSound Project. They have made OSS
interface compatible drivers for the various GUS based cards. But they are
not included in the
On May 26, Brian C. White wrote
Hamm (Debian 2.0)
Some more ideas/goals:
* PAM-mify at least the essential authentication programs (passwd, su,...)
and preferably all programs that require authentication (POP clients,
webservers, ...).
URL:http://parc.power.net/morgan/Linux-PAM/.
From
On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Thomas Koenig wrote:
Michael Neuffer wrote:
This is not necessary. gcc 2.8 includes the pentium optimizations
from pgcc.
All of it?
No not all, they took a stable subset.
Mike
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On Jun 1, Jim Pick wrote
Actually, I had a very similar polite argument with RMS via private e-mail
(about linking Java libs with mixed GPL/LGPL/proprietary licenses). He
was pretty solid on the fact that run-time linking is the same as
compiled-in linking.
Yep, once the run-time linking has
None of the Infocom games can be distributed, however. You have to
buy them.
Heh. I guess that means we cant package up any of these then
ftp://ftp.gmd.de/if-archive
No, but you can leave a pointer to this place in the description somewhere.
See the apple2 package description for
Where do I find it? I read somewhere it fixes that nasty dpkg-source bug.
Michael
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On Sun, 1 Jun 1997, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
Craig Sanders:
This is not only simple to implement, but it is also simple to
parse...
Not quite so simple. If you need to allow all characters in the
values, which requires using escapes and stuff, and consequently
also makes it more difficult
Michael Neuffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I just had a look at ftp.xfree86.org.
They finally have 3.3 out.
Yeah, but the permissions on /pub/XFree86/3.3 don't let you look at
it:
XFree86:/pub/XFree86 ls -l
[...]
drwxr-xr-x 6 7011190 1024 Oct 1 1994 2.1/
drwxr-xr-x 6 7011190
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Gunthorpe) wrote on 01.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I really must admit I find the GPL very cryptic, it's hard to say exactly
what it means if you look at very small detail. I do think that it makes
sense however that you should be able to put RCS in a dll and link to
Mgetty is quite a few versions behind.. is anyone actively maintaining this
package? If not, I have enough free time now to take it.
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right, usually that means mirror sites only and then in a day or two
they'll all change the modes together. (This keeps the master site
from getting flooded; I remember Jim Gettys posting about people
connecting to ftp.x.org which was a heavily loaded Sony NEWS machine
buried off a local net in
On 2 Jun 1997, Mark Eichin wrote:
For some more perspective on the interface argument, go back and see
some of the flaming a year or two ago about the GNU libmp (multiple
precision integer math library.) See also the discussion of just a
week or three ago about a company shipping a
In anticipation of Debian being released (publically)for platforms
other than ix86 it would be a good idea to phase out the use of
the binary - binary-i386 link on the ftp sites as this could
cause confusion. Is there anything that actually uses this link?
- Sue
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Buddha Buck wrote:
However, the unique interface issue does exist with regard to gzip,
since that is purely a GPLed product. I think a libgzip or a gzip.dll
would run into the same issues as the libdb did.
The source code to the zlib library has been released together with ssh
with a non-GPL
However, the unique interface issue does exist with regard to gzip,
since that is purely a GPLed product. I think a libgzip or a gzip.dll
would run into the same issues as the libdb did.
Not to distract from the original point (thank you for the clearer
explanation of the libmp issue!) note
On Jun 1, Kai Henningsen wrote
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craig Sanders) wrote on 01.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The config database should be regarded as a convenience for
{pre,post}{inst,rm} scripts and /etc/init.d/ boot time scripts only.
Well, that was what started the discussion, anyway.
On Jun 1, Craig Sanders wrote
It should NOT attempt to be some universal replacement for
package-specific config files.
i agree.
All that is needed is a set of key=value pairs in a plain text file. Take
a look at FreeBSD's /etc/sysconfig or NextStep's /etc/hostconfig for an
example.
[ I've not been following this thread too closely,
so if I've got the wrong idea, please forgive me ]
The GPL is a very restrictive license. In many ways, it is just as
restrictive as the Qt license. Particularily in the case of libraries,
using it as Cygnus is doing (to make
Is it possible to rebuild a debian source package (that uses debmake),
through the build command, signing it with another PGP key than the one
belonging to the maintainer in debian/changelog without modifying the source
(i.e. by providing command-line options to build)?
Ray
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On Jun 2, Jim Pick wrote
The cygwin.dll case in an example where the GPL is being used to restrict the
rights of other people using the code so that they can't do something taboo
such as charge money, while at the same time, reserving the right for the
authors to do the exact same thing. To
On Sun, 1 Jun 1997, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Christian Hudon wrote:
On Jun 1, Jason Gunthorpe wrote
There is something called the UltraSound Project. They have made OSS
interface compatible drivers for the various GUS based cards. But they are
not included
On 30 May 1997, Kai Henningsen wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Lees) wrote on 27.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
There are ways to avoid this. For example, modify dpkg not to include any
line with config=yes in it in the md5sum of certain files.
This is a troll, right?
Wrong.
Or maybe you
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J.H.M.Dassen wrote:
Is it possible to rebuild a debian source package (that uses debmake),
through the build command, signing it with another PGP key than the one
belonging to the maintainer in debian/changelog without modifying the source
(i.e. by
On Mon, 26 May 1997, Christian Schwarz wrote:
On Mon, 26 May 1997, Jim Pick wrote:
I agree 100% with what Ian says. (Let's do it)
Me too! (I didn't know that such a simple solution is possible :-)
So what about the other keys? I suggest that all character keys, symbols,
etc. should
On Jun 1, Galen Hazelwood wrote
My understanding was that if a shared library is GPL'd rather than
LGPL'd, linking commercial programs against it is illegal unless you
provide source. The LGPL removes that restriction, and that's why glibc
(as well as libg++) uses the LGPL.
Static linking
On Jun 2, Jim Pick wrote
The cygwin.dll case in an example where the GPL is being used to restrict
the
rights of other people using the code so that they can't do something taboo
such as charge money, while at the same time, reserving the right for the
authors to do the exact same
On Fri, 30 May 1997, Philip Hands wrote:
What were you trying to achieve ? --- it might be simpler than you think.
I just discovered that most of my alias handling under qmail was drivel, and
could be dome much more simply.
If someone wants to spend some time on a simple mailer hack,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In anticipation of Debian being released (publically)for platforms
other than ix86 it would be a good idea to phase out the use of
the binary - binary-i386 link on the ftp sites as this could
cause confusion. Is there anything that actually uses this link?
Very old
On Jun 2, Raul Miller wrote
[Note: what RMS is trying to argue against is the stunt
Steve Jobs Co. pulled with Objective C.]
Could you describe what the said 'stunt' was? I'm curious...
Christian
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Hands) wrote on 02.06.97 in
sS5XS1.0.gy5.Mhgap@debian:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
for SmallEiffel (which I am packaging) to work at all, it needs an
env-variable to be set.
Is it not possible to patch the program, to default to the value that you
were going to
On 2 Jun 1997, Mark Eichin wrote:
Now, when you link -- statically or dynamically -- you are including
portions of libc5 in your binary. This results in your binary being
Umm, no, actually -- the whole point of dynamic linking is that you're
*not* including portions of libc5 in your
On Jun 2, Paul Haggart wrote
:
: Mgetty is quite a few versions behind.. is anyone actively maintaining this
: package? If not, I have enough free time now to take it.
:
I thought about it, but didn't manage it. (Since I'd have to remove
all debmake stuff ...) And first I should finish the
Hi,
Colin == Colin Telmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Colin modutils: /usr/doc/modules/examples/Stacking/modversions.h
Colin So my question is, does kernel-package put that file into the
Colin source tree? Or, more generally, how did it get into my source
Colin tree?
You get that
Hi,
I can get version 2.1.37 to work -- 38, 39, 40, and 41 have
hung badly (have yet to try 42)
manoj
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On 1 Jun 1997, John Goerzen wrote:
Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sun, 1 Jun 1997, joost witteveen wrote:
Non-free it is
No. If the author forbids distribution a changed (i.e. bug fixed)
_binary_ version, I think the package may not even go into non-free.
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