From: Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Live file system
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 15:40:24 -0400 (EDT)
I've been working on a CD specific install that basically delivers a
standard system with cp -a that could be used to also construct a
live file system. I'll let you know how it works
On Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 09:43:12PM +1000, Matthew Parry wrote:
`Debian Fairy'? I don't know about that... (BTW Linus was bitten by a
Fairy Penguin)
I like the Hitch Hikers idea:
Depends what image you want for the system. The HHGTTG was good,
but I don't think it is worth naming the
Right now I'm using a 200MMX with 64MB, which used to be a 133MHz with
64MB and I always found the speed of dpkg perfectly acceptable. Are you
using the outdated dselect method that scans every single package every
time you install one little component, and do have like 400 packages
installed with
On 6 Oct 1998, John Goerzen wrote:
This is silly. dpkg/dselect are already insanely slow, even on my
P166 with 128 meg of RAM -- especially when reading database, etc. If
we slow down the installation so much more by using bzip2, then people
will simply stop upgrading, or switch to other
On Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 11:49:26PM +0800, Stephen Darragh wrote:
Is there any way to get Debian to rebuild or repair a corrupted
package information database (e.g. on beldin)?
Not that I know of unfortunately. I'll ask on debian-devel as this is
something I've wanted a few times as well.
Any
On Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 03:50:01PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
This is silly. dpkg/dselect are already insanely slow, even on my
P166 with 128 meg of RAM -- especially when reading database, etc. If
we slow down the installation so much more by using bzip2, then people
will simply stop
On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
rhertzWell it doesn't work out of the box as I expected it. First the
rhertz@INC isn't correct, it doesn't contain /usr/lib/perl5. Please
rhertzDarren can you correct it ?
I downloaded the upstream source. It looks like the omission of
I didn't much like libresolv, so I decided I would write a stub
resolver. In particular, it will make it much easier to make DNS
queries for various kinds of record and get the information you
actually wanted, and it will be useable asynchronously (ie in programs
with a select loop).
I'm halfway
On Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 03:40:24PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote:
IIRC Dale Scheetz used to have one for bo (sorry if I'm wrong, Dale :)
Well, not exactly. What I do is an imbedded file system that can be
installed on a DOS/Windows/'95 file system as simple files and booted with
a special
[NOTE: Bcc-ing [EMAIL PROTECTED] because I don't want wnpp to be spammed
with any discussion about this]
For more info on the software see http://www.jwz.org/dadadodo/
Source: dadadodo
Section: text
Priority: optional
Maintainer: Sudhakar Chandrasekharan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description:
I've made by the way a quick'n'dirty updated package of the current
lyx-0.12.1pre8 which already contains this LaTeX importing feature.
Seems to be working very well with the LaTeX files i tried out so far:
ftp://ietpd1.sowi.uni-mainz.de/pub/debian/unofficial/{binary,source}
If you'd like to
I'm halfway through implementation, but it occurred to me that some
people might like to comment on my proposed API. So, below you'll
find a prototype of the header file. You'll notice I haven't given it
a proper software licence yet, but the library itself will be GPL'd.
If you have some
Andrew Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 11:49:26PM +0800, Stephen Darragh wrote:
Is there any way to get Debian to rebuild or repair a corrupted
package information database (e.g. on beldin)?
Not that I know of unfortunately. I'll ask on debian-devel as this is
Joseph Carter wrote:
I doubt it would compile on my 4 meg 486.
Nor would it run there.
I've ran X on 2 mb. (shoot me.. please.. ;-)
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[EMAIL PROTECTED](James A. Treacy) writes:
Should apt have to download the dsc file for a package before it
knows what the source files are?
Why on earth not? If it's going to download the source, the .dsc file
is part of the source and has to be downloaded anyway.
It is clearly
On Wed, Oct 07, 1998 at 09:34:46AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
Depends what image you want for the system. The HHGTTG was good,
but I don't think it is worth naming the releases after it.
I prefer the penguins.
BTW, wasn't it Slartibartfast, one word?
Another vote for penguins. Speaking
I think you need to install the new nfs-server package.
Yeah, I got bit by that too, and it took me a while to find that...
maybe we need some sort of transitional-recommends field? Something
that is ignored if you are installing the package (to avoid causing
even more pain to dselect users,
Keita Maehara [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I've been working on a CD specific install that basically delivers a
standard system with cp -a that could be used to also construct a
live file system. I'll let you know how it works out, if I can ever get
back to working on it.
I've tried to
Nicolás Lichtmaier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Package: nfs-server
Implied-by: netbase ( x.x)
This header would only be used by package selection UIs (like apt).
You can get the same info out of the Replaces header.
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You might look at the ares library (Asynchronous RESolver) that Greg
Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote...
athena-dist.mit.edu:/pub/ATHENA/ares/ares-0.3.0.tar.gz
is the current version. (At very least, compare notes with him...)
_Mark_ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Calamaris is an analyzer for squid log files, that generates nice reports.
http://www.detmold.netsurf.de/homepages/cord/tools/squid/calamaris/
I don't have time to package it, though - any takers?
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On Mon, Oct 05, 1998 at 08:03:04PM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote:
I'm trying to rebuild libpgjava to depend on jdk1.1. Unfortunately, I'm
getting segfaults when I run javac (from jdk1.1-dev), so I am currently
unable to make a new version.
Another strange thing. When I try to use libpgjava for
Hi Gordon,
The attached patch should work for you if you apply it to ltmain.sh.
The patch worked! Thank you very much. Will the patch go into the next
libtool release? Are you still maintaining libtool? Someone told me you
weren't. I am just curious.
Thanks again for the patch!
-Ossama
David Welton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There is an ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sid, with such recent
things as debian-arm, so.. I think that's next:-
No, sid is the permanently unstable distribution, where architectures
that have yet to be released live.
Guy
Matthew Parry wrote:
I like the Hitch Hikers idea:
I would like to go on record as being *strongly* opposed to the
Hitchhiker's Guide idea. I really don't want to give the impression
that Debian is some sort of joke. I also find it extremely unoriginal,
and rather puerile. (I didn't even
Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Supposedly it is about ready to be released.
Using a newly written MTA as our default sounds like a poor idea.
Guy
[EMAIL PROTECTED](James A. Treacy) writes:
It is clearly much more efficient if the .dsc files don't have to be
retrieved. This is simply a matter of policy though.
I guess you're talking about different things. Of course that
package's dsc needs to be downloaded, but Jay fears that all the
On Wed, Oct 07, 1998 at 02:24:46PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
Nicolás Lichtmaier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Package: nfs-server
Implied-by: netbase ( x.x)
This header would only be used by package selection UIs (like apt).
You can get the same info out of the Replaces header.
We need a
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Matt McLean, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
It's no longer needed. 5.00502 now has a configure test for union semun.
Cool. I thought I had seen that but I figured that I'd leave it for
people that track that much closer.
I know what's going on
Ah, ... you are reading now.
Could you confirm or deny, that the /usr/lib/perl5 no longer
contains *.pm files ? There seems to be some confusion, but on
investigation at perl.org, it looks like this is really the case. Then
people will not wait for a bug fix which won't
On Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 11:20:45PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote:
snip
I think I'd almost rather switch to Red Hat than use the Beeblebrox
release. I mean, what's next? Putting pictures of maintainer's pets on
the Debian web page? :-)
Let me get some nice pictures of my kitten, taz, she is a
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John Lapeyre, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
Ah, ... you are reading now.
Yes, sorry I'm a bit slow; I'm working on buying a house.
I do usually respond quicker to stuff in my inbox than just to list
stuff.
Could you confirm or
On Wed, Oct 07, 1998 at 01:47:51AM -0700, John Lapeyre wrote:
Could you confirm or deny, that the /usr/lib/perl5 no longer
contains *.pm files ? There seems to be some confusion, but on
If this is the case, then the list of packages that have to be changed
grows even larger: I suppose
On 7 Oct 1998, Darren/Torin/Who Ever... wrote:
torin
torinYes, sorry I'm a bit slow; I'm working on buying a house.
torin
torinI do usually respond quicker to stuff in my inbox than just to list
torinstuff.
Unacceptable! ;-) I pulled perl 5.005 out of Incoming over 6 hrs.
ago.
On Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 06:49:47PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
I intend to package gwave and gmos, which are to be part of the gEDA
suite of EDA tools for Linux. gschemrc is already packaged in the
geda package; it is a schematic capture (entry) program.
gwave is a waveform viewer which can
Hello,
I remember some month ago there was a discution some time ago about debian for
non entirely debian systems (i think it was a debian-solaris thing).
What happened to it ?
i was given a ultra sparc 1 with solaris 2.6 here at the university, and
þerhaps i would like to work on such a thing.
Unfortunately I know absolutely zero about guile, but need it to build
the latest geda. I'm told I need guile 1.3, which I find in the
package guile1.3, and then I installed libguile3. It wants to run
build-guile during configure; libguile3-dev supplies build-guile1.3
(without an alternatives link
Neale == Neale Pickett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Neale Translation: What a bad idea to have made only one page in
Neale French! I am getting very fed up with English.
Well, the second part sounds more like English is really not easy for
me, there was no aggressive tone.
Sam
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
I remember some month ago there was a discution some time ago about debian for
non entirely debian systems (i think it was a debian-solaris thing).
What happened to it ?
i was given a ultra sparc 1 with solaris 2.6 here at the university, and
þerhaps i
Le Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 06:02:18PM -0700, John Lapeyre écrivait:
I downloaded the upstream source. It looks like the omission of
/usr/lib/perl5 in @INC was intentional.
You're right. But this does mean that all packages installing *.pm
files need to be updated. It does also mean that we
On Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 07:37:43PM -0700, Jim Pick wrote:
Andrew Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 11:49:26PM +0800, Stephen Darragh wrote:
Is there any way to get Debian to rebuild or repair a corrupted
package information database (e.g. on beldin)?
Not
On Tue 06 Oct 1998, Robert Woodcock wrote:
Just out of curiosity, what's the security track record on smail vs exim
for the last two years? The standard MTA should have a chance of being
secure from remote attacks for at least a year after release.
In the words of Philip Hazel (the Exim
Previously Bart Schuller wrote:
This didn't catch vim-perl, which seems to have been statically linked
to perl, but references the libraries of the current version so should
be upgraded as well.
It is, since vim's configure couldn't find any shared-libraries for perl.
And from what I see I
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark W. Eichin) wrote:
Yeah, I got bit by that too, and it took me a while to find that...
maybe we need some sort of transitional-recommends field? Something
that is ignored if you are installing the package (to avoid causing
even more pain to dselect users, or something),
Joey Hess:
Calamaris is an analyzer for squid log files, that generates nice reports.
http://www.detmold.netsurf.de/homepages/cord/tools/squid/calamaris/
I downloaded it and had a look at it. Seems not to be too
complicated to me. How much do I have? :-)
The licence is GPL with this one
Since I've heard rumours about the slink freeze taking place soon:
Bobo by Digital Creations consists of three independent packages which
recommend each other. Two of them (python-bobo, python-bobodtml)
already are in slink with a BSD style license. The license of the
third package, BoboPOS,
Mark W. Eichin writes (Re: Better (inc. asynchronous) DNS client (stub
resolver)):
You might look at the ares library (Asynchronous RESolver) that Greg
Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote...
athena-dist.mit.edu:/pub/ATHENA/ares/ares-0.3.0.tar.gz
is the current version. (At very least,
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (James A. Treacy) writes:
[EMAIL PROTECTED](James A. Treacy) writes:
Should apt have to download the dsc file for a package before it
knows what the source files are?
Why on earth not? If it's going to
On Wed, Oct 07, 1998 at 12:28:38PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
I remember some month ago there was a discution some time ago about debian for
non entirely debian systems (i think it was a debian-solaris thing).
What happened to it ?
i was given a ultra sparc 1 with solaris
On Wed, Oct 07, 1998 at 05:29:48PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
Mark W. Eichin writes (Re: Better (inc. asynchronous) DNS client (stub
resolver)):
You might look at the ares library (Asynchronous RESolver) that Greg
Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote...
[EMAIL PROTECTED](James A. Treacy) writes:
Guy Maor wrote:
First, due to NMU uploads to other architectures, the source version
may not match the version: in the package you are looking for.
This means you need to search the archive for the name of the .dsc
file. There are about 75 version
Hello all:
What package hosts the top command?
I want to see if I can get the thing going
for multi-CPU systems.
Peter
If no one else volunteers I take a look at it. It's a graphical
configuration tool for icewm.
Michael
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gmc doesn't work with the most up-to-date libraries. It was linked against
an older one no longer in the archive (btw the same holds for balsa). But
recompiling from source got me a binary that seg faults.
Michael
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On Wed, Oct 07, 1998 at 03:56:39AM +0200, Paul Seelig wrote:
I've made by the way a quick'n'dirty updated package of the current
lyx-0.12.1pre8 which already contains this LaTeX importing feature.
Seems to be working very well with the LaTeX files i tried out so far:
Good to hear that. :-)
Anyone using it? I noticed two days ago that the buttons are gone. Since I
updated mpsql and lesstif almost at the same time I'm not exactly sure what
happened, but have the feeling the change in lesstif caused this. Anyone
else experiencing this problem? Please tell me what happens on your system
When I run apt-get check I get:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo apt-get check
Updating package file cache...done
Updating package status cache...done
Checking system integrity...dependency error
You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these.
Sorry, but the following packages are broken -
Peter Iannarelli wrote:
Hello all:
What package hosts the top command?
finlandia!joey(tty11):~ dpkg -S bin/top
procps: /usr/bin/top
netstd: /usr/bin/toport
finlandia!joey(tty11):~ dpkg -l procps
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
|
On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Peter Iannarelli wrote:
Hello all:
What package hosts the top command?
dreamer:~% dpkg -S /usr/bin/top
procps: /usr/bin/top
I want to see if I can get the thing going
for multi-CPU systems.
I use it on multi-CPU systems. What doesn't work about it?
On Wed, Oct 07, 1998 at 01:34:42AM -0700, Darren/Torin/Who Ever... wrote:
I know what's going on with IPC, and I'm guessing the DBM test is failing
because of a bug in the libc.
So, what's going on with IPC?
IPC until very recently was completely hosed on powerpc. We have hopes
that a new
Hello,
I thought about the problem with directory used for installing perl
modules. Actually if we do nothing, we would have to recompile all
perl package for each perl5.00x release. That's because perl uses
now /usr/lib/perl5/$version (and perl5/$arch/$version) as path
to search for modules.
On Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:00:51 +0200, Paul Slootman wrote:
I personally have confidence in Exim's quality in this regard.
Demon (a large ISP in the UK and the Netherlands, www.demon.net)
uses Exim as its customer-facing smtp interface, so I guess that they're
convinced as well.
Just curious how
Michael == Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Michael When I run apt-get check I get: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo
Michael apt-get check Updating package file cache...done Updating
Michael package status cache...done Checking system
Michael integrity...dependency error You
Mark W. Eichin wrote:
Yeah, I got bit by that too, and it took me a while to find that...
maybe we need some sort of transitional-recommends field? Something
that is ignored if you are installing the package (to avoid causing even
more pain to dselect users, or something), but noticed on an
Guy Maor wrote:
I'm suggesting that dpkg-scanpackages scan the dscs and put the
section and version in the Source field, or perhaps add a new field
Dsc which is simply the full path to the dsc, akin to the Filename
field. Then downloading the source for a package is simple. The web
pages
On 7 Oct 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How about this?
A_1.0-0.1 is going to split into B and C. So you create a dummy A_1.0-0.2
package which depends on B and C and upload it along with B and C. Anyone
who upgrades and has A will get it upgraded to A_1.0-0.2, which will pull in
B and
On Tue, 06 Oct, 1998, Joseph Carter wrote:
On Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 03:50:01PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
This is silly. dpkg/dselect are already insanely slow, even on my
P166 with 128 meg of RAM -- especially when reading database, etc. If
we slow down the installation so much more by
Hi,
this afternoon I occurred a serious problem where some of our
debian/rules file will fail.
xargs will *always* execute the command, even with no input. This
means that all constructs like find -name foo|xargs chmod g+w will
fail as soon as find doesn't find any file. As Joey pointed out
On Wed, 7 October 1998 12:12:10 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
Just curious how you know this since when I telnet to their relay hosts
they are very non-descript about what they run.
Exim-users.
And a certain news hierachy with some bofhish guys in it.
Did I mention psi.uk.com, btw?
Alexander
Hi,
tonight I was thinking about implementing @authors.debian.org which
would enable a way for us to get in touch with the upstream authors of
some piece of software without the need of looking into the copyright
file or digging in the source if the maintainer forgot to add the
authors email into
Hi,
I'd like to flag Bug#27444 severity important since it filled up
my disk to 100% for the fourth time two days ago. This suxx and
since there is a patch provided it won't hold the release (except
nobody makes a new upload for it).
http://www.infodrom.north.de/Debian/Bugs/db/27/27444.html
Do
Hi Joey.
What do you think about it?
Will it produce more mail to the authors? Will *they* like it?
Besides that, it's at least useful.
Alexander
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On 07-Oct-98 Martin Schulze wrote:
Hi,
tonight I was thinking about implementing @authors.debian.org which
would enable a way for us to get in touch with the upstream authors of
some piece of software without the need of looking into the copyright
file or digging in the source if the
Shaleh wrote:
On 07-Oct-98 Martin Schulze wrote:
Hi,
tonight I was thinking about implementing @authors.debian.org which
would enable a way for us to get in touch with the upstream authors of
some piece of software without the need of looking into the copyright
file or digging in
Alexander Koch wrote:
Hi Joey.
What do you think about it?
Will it produce more mail to the authors? Will *they* like it?
Which author doesn't like to be contacted wrt his software?
Besides, you can leave it out.
Regards,
Joey
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On Wed, Oct 07, 1998 at 10:37:49PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
Alexander Koch wrote:
Hi Joey.
What do you think about it?
Will it produce more mail to the authors? Will *they* like it?
Which author doesn't like to be contacted wrt his software?
So do we put Linus' address for
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since it seems obvious that apt WON'T be finished (GUI bit I mean)
before freeze of slink, I have started writing an X clone of the Dselect
tool.
Although to be ready by 16th will make it pretty much a hack, I think it
is one worthy for this release (in much the
Before packaging something, I check with the upstream author. I know it's GPL
but I like to be polite about it. In one case, I had the upstream author make
some suggestions and one of them was to make sure any and all mail about the
package got sent to me. I think he'd be an example of someone
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think you need to install the new nfs-server package.
Yeah, I got bit by that too, and it took me a while to find that...
maybe we need some sort of transitional-recommends field? Something
that is ignored if you are installing the package (to avoid causing
even
Darren Benham wrote:
Before packaging something, I check with the upstream author. I know it's GPL
but I like to be polite about it. In one case, I had the upstream author make
some suggestions and one of them was to make sure any and all mail about the
package got sent to me. I think he'd
Martin Schulze wrote:
tonight I was thinking about implementing @authors.debian.org which
would enable a way for us to get in touch with the upstream authors of
some piece of software without the need of looking into the copyright
file or digging in the source if the maintainer forgot to add
Martin Schulze wrote:
What do you think about it?
Example: [EMAIL PROTECTED] would redirect the mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] who is the current developer of hypermail.
It seems like a good idea in general. The only 2 problems I can see are that
we would have to keep track of authors changing
BUG DESCRIPTION _AFTER_ nano-HOWTO info.
On Wed, Oct 07, 1998 at 04:03:31PM -0400, Christopher C Chimelis wrote:
FYI, the official Debian-Alpha port page has been updated
(http://www.debian.org/ports/alpha). It *should* have everything that we
nano-HOWTO updated to include everything on
Joey Hess wrote:
Example: [EMAIL PROTECTED] would redirect the mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] who is the current developer of hypermail.
It seems like a good idea in general. The only 2 problems I can see are that
we would have to keep track of authors changing their email addresses, and
that
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