libapache-mod-perl

1998-10-12 Thread Justin A. McCright
Is anyone going to try and get a version of this that works with newer Apaches out before the freeze? -- -jam -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS d-(--) s: a---? C++()$ UL$ P+ L+++$ E W++(-)$ N- o? K? w--- O-- M-- V? PS PE Y+ PGP t++ 5++ X+ R tv++ b+++(++) DI+ D++ G++ e-

Re: libapache-mod-perl

1998-10-12 Thread Dan Jacobowitz
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 08:01:42PM -0500, Justin A. McCright wrote: Is anyone going to try and get a version of this that works with newer Apaches out before the freeze? I'm working on it. It's very broken at the moment! Dan

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Santiago == Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Santiago Well, kernel-package is a single package but it would be surely Santiago a lot of work, since there are a lot of new drivers. What does not work for you using kernel-package on newer kernels? I have never had a problem,

Re: KDE hurts Qt (was Re: LICENSES)

1998-10-12 Thread jim
Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the really sad part about this whole mess. Qt is a nice library. Non-free, but not everything has to be free. But because of the refusal of the KDE developers to FIX THE KDE LICENSE PROBLEMS, a lot of people are being turned off of Qt! Qt

Intent to package: oo2c, The Oberon-2 to ANSI-C Translator

1998-10-12 Thread Anthony Fok
Hello! :-) I hereby announce my intent to package (and upload) oo2c, The (Optimizing) Oberon-2 to ANSI-C Translator. I will try to upload it soon. :-) Well, actually, already built it, but will rebuild it again and do some more testing. :-) Package: oo2c Priority: optional Section: devel

Re: Perl 5.005.02

1998-10-12 Thread warp
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 11:28:06AM -0400, Roderick Schertler wrote: On 11 Oct 1998 03:08:22 -0700, Darren/Torin/Who Ever... [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Andy Dougherty, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote: After some thought, I think I'd recommend that perl5.005_xx retain the same

Re: Perl policy for managing modules ?

1998-10-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Raphael == Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Raphael Le Thu, Oct 08, 1998 at 09:57:36AM -0400, Dan Jacobowitz écrivait: My question is, why are we so intent on removing the versioned component even though we have lost binary compatibility? I understand Raphael Because most of

Re: intent to remove libglide from non-free

1998-10-12 Thread James A. Treacy
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 01:48:43PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: James A. Treacy wrote: A number of people would like to see a 3dfx package of mesa. This can not be done unless there is a legal package of glide (under the current license I can't even get the libs since I don't own a 3dfx

Re: LICENSES [was: Re: Have you seen this?]

1998-10-12 Thread jim
In my opinion, Qt is not a section of KDE, it is not derived from the KDE and it must be considered independent and separate from the KDE. In other words: The KDE's usage of the GPL does not cause the GPL, and its terms, to apply to Qt. Indeed Qt is not part of the problem indeed

Re: intent to remove libglide from non-free

1998-10-12 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 01:48:43PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: Any reason, aside from the lack of volunteers, why we can't do what we do with netscape/staroffice/etc.? Even if we can't distribute it, can't we have a loader package? (No, I'm not volunteering, I don't own a 3dfx card either.)

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 10:52:19PM +0200, Gergely Madarasz wrote: [...] I agree that by using XForms in development, and XForms *is* needed to compile and run LyX, we have implicitly allowd all users to link Lyx with XForms. [...] I don't think so. It is not enough for KDE, why should

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Shaleh
The main difference is that LyX is THEIR code. The problem w/ KDE is not so much its own code, rather it links other peoples GPL app w/QT and KDE to make Kapp. This is the brunt of the legal issue. The authors of app where not asked if it was ok to link w/QT, nor was the license modified to

Re: LICENSES [was: Re: Have you seen this?]

1998-10-12 Thread jim
However, the license for that derived work (I'll call it A) claims that the whole of A must be GPL'd. However, Qt is not part of A (the GPL says section of). Qt provides services to A, and A depends on those services: A very different thing. Qt is part of the derived work. It is

dbugging dselect

1998-10-12 Thread David Stern
Hi, I'm having troubles with dselect in slink. I tried addressing this issue in debian-user, but got absoutely no response, so I thought I'd try here. I haven't been on this list for long, so if this is in any way inappropriate, I apologize. I'm very grateful to and have great respect for

Re: LICENSES [was: Re: Have you seen this?]

1998-10-12 Thread Alan Cox
If I use libc, I don't think I am creating a libc. Unless I am, I'm not deriving, I think. If I use libc, I simply use the services. Hence, libc is a section of the thing I am making, and does not derive from it. Your program derives from libc by being linked with it. This is precisely why an

Re: Finding a source package

1998-10-12 Thread Guy Maor
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Guy Maor wrote: I'm suggesting that dpkg-scanpackages scan the dscs and put the section and version in the Source field, or perhaps add a new field Dsc which is simply the full path to the dsc, akin to the Filename field. Then downloading the source

Re: Perl 5.005.02

1998-10-12 Thread cfm
My $.02 on this - and this is only personal feedback- is that perl -MCPAN -e shell is even easier than apt-get. So I maintain a perl5.tgz with our various modules from CPAN already installed and whenever debian blows away our perl on any particular machine we just unpack it from our local

Re: LICENSES [was: Re: Have you seen this?]

1998-10-12 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Alan Cox wrote: If I use libc, I don't think I am creating a libc. Unless I am, I'm not deriving, I think. If I use libc, I simply use the services. Hence, libc is a section of the thing I am making, and does not derive from it. Your program derives from libc by

Re: LICENSES [was: Re: Have you seen this?]

1998-10-12 Thread jim
If I use libc, I don't think I am creating a libc. Unless I am, I'm not deriving, I think. If I use libc, I simply use the services. Hence, libc is a section of the thing I am making, and does not derive from it. Your program derives from libc by being linked with it. This is precisely

Ropes in stl (was Re: lack of wstring in libstdc++2.8-dev)

1998-10-12 Thread Chris
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 01:42:20PM +, Rob Browning wrote: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: See http://www.sgi.com/Technology/STL for the current STL implementation. And see http://www.sgi.com/Technology/STL/string_discussion.html for why you should probably be using ropes or

Re: Ropes in stl (was Re: lack of wstring in libstdc++2.8-dev)

1998-10-12 Thread Chris
Sorry to follow myself up so quickly, but I found the fault. The ropeimpl.h file is in error complared to the version from SGI's STL. Here's the diff: --- ropeimpl.h.orig Mon Oct 12 14:18:53 1998 +++ ropeimpl.h Mon Oct 12 14:17:25 1998 @@ -1082,7 +1082,7 @@ /* 35 */24157817, /* 36

Re: Intent to package LEIM

1998-10-12 Thread Milan Zamazal
Milan Zamazal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there any technical reason why LEIM (Emacs input methods) is not available as a Debian package? If not, I'll package it. FWIW It's already part of the emacs20 package. I'd say including LEIM data *.elc files is worth. I think it's difficult for an

Re: dbugging dselect

1998-10-12 Thread M.C. Vernon
On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, David Stern wrote: install attempt in dselect error message: - [..unmet dependencies, blah, blah.. ] dependencies: perl-suid: Depends:perl libpam0: Depends:libpam0g perl: Depends:perl-base I missed the

Re: Ropes in stl (was Re: lack of wstring in libstdc++2.8-dev)

1998-10-12 Thread M.C. Vernon
void main(void) snippety BTW, main returns int, not void. See the comp.lang.c FAQ for the bit of the C standard that defines this - main is incorrectly said to return void in a number of texts though. HTH, Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society

Re: Ropes in stl (was Re: lack of wstring in libstdc++2.8-dev)

1998-10-12 Thread Chris Leishman
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 08:24:49AM +0100, M.C. Vernon wrote: void main(void) snippety BTW, main returns int, not void. See the comp.lang.c FAQ for the bit of the C standard that defines this - main is incorrectly said to return void in a number of texts though. HTH, Matthew

Re: Ropes in stl (was Re: lack of wstring in libstdc++2.8-dev)

1998-10-12 Thread Paul Slootman
On Mon 12 Oct 1998, Chris Leishman wrote: On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 08:24:49AM +0100, M.C. Vernon wrote: void main(void) snippety BTW, main returns int, not void. See the comp.lang.c FAQ for the bit of the C standard that defines this - main is incorrectly said to return void in

Re: [conrad@srl.caltech.edu: ANNOUNCE: Fulcrum scientific plotting tool update]

1998-10-12 Thread John Lapeyre
On Sat, 10 Oct 1998, Martin Schulze wrote: joeyI wonder if somebody plans to package this one. joey joey Fulcrum Scientific Analysis/Plotting Tool for Unix/GTK I am swamped right now. But , I'll try to do it if no one else wants to. I wonder if this is a new incarnation of

Re: KDE gone, Lyx next ?

1998-10-12 Thread John Lapeyre
On Sat, 10 Oct 1998, Shaya Potter wrote: spotte spotte-Original Message- spotteFrom: John Lapeyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] spotte spotte Lyx is currently in contrib. spotte Lyx is licensed under the GPL (version 2) . It is dynamically spottelinked against a non-free library (libforms) . spotte

Re: Perl 5.005.02

1998-10-12 Thread John Lapeyre
On 11 Oct 1998, Darren/Torin/Who Ever... wrote: torinAndy Dougherty, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote: torinAfter some thought, I think I'd recommend that perl5.005_xx retain the torinsame directory structure that perl5.00[34]_xx did. (with 5.005 in place of torin5.00[34], of

Electric VLSI Design System now open source!

1998-10-12 Thread Dan Kegel
Saw the following on http://slashdot.org. Sounds like very good news. - Dan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 1998/10/10 Newsgroups: alt.electronics.analog.vlsi, can.vlsi, comp.lsi, comp.lsi.cad, cu.vlsi I am pleased to announce that the Electric VLSI Design System is now available to anyone who

Intent to package: ada-rm

1998-10-12 Thread Samuel Tardieu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- ada-rm is a set of documentation containing the Ada 95 reference manual, the Rationale and the changes with Ada 83. Sam - -- Samuel Tardieu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1

Re: Intent to package LEIM

1998-10-12 Thread Christophe Broult
Milan Zamazal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Milan Zamazal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there any technical reason why LEIM (Emacs input methods) is not available as a Debian package? If not, I'll package it. FWIW It's already part of the emacs20 package. Something is missing because when

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, Joseph Carter wrote: On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 10:52:19PM +0200, Gergely Madarasz wrote: [...] I agree that by using XForms in development, and XForms *is* needed to compile and run LyX, we have implicitly allowd all users to link Lyx with XForms. [...] I

GnomeCar

1998-10-12 Thread Michael Meskes
Anyone working on this? I just saw the a screenshot that looks nice. But since its source is only in cvs I cannot simply try it. Michael -- Dr. Michael Meskes | Th.-Heuss-Str. 61, D-41812 Erkelenz | Go SF49ers! Senior-Consultant | business: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Go Rhein Fire!

[ettrich@troll.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Michael Meskes
How about this one? I told him I would remove the first sentence but other than that it looks okay to me. Michael - Forwarded message from Matthias Ettrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] - If we do something like this, I'd rather suggest a text like: The GPL is often a source of missunderstanding

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Michael Meskes
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 04:07:31PM +, Raja R Harinath wrote: I agree that by using XForms in development, and XForms *is* needed to compile and run LyX, we have implicitly allowd all users to link Lyx with XForms. I don't see how it follows. we have implicitly allowed all users to

Re: KDE gone, Lyx next ?

1998-10-12 Thread Michael Meskes
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 12:09:15PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: There's probably plenty of other problematic packages in contrib too, as Raul has been telling us for a while. www-mysql, for example, although it'll move in to main once I reupload it (since mysql-base is in main now). I idn't

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Michael Meskes
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 11:18:53PM +0200, Bart Schuller wrote: Because *implicit* permission isn't good enough. By default *nothing* is allowed. So every right the authors grant you had better be written down in a license accompanying the software, otherwise one of the authors (or sometimes

Re: KDE hurts Qt (LICENSES)

1998-10-12 Thread Martin Konold
On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, Alan Cox wrote: Dear Alan, What you have to remember is this. SuSE are currently too small to be worth sueing in the US on a licensing issue. Ditto most (all ?) other current distributors I'm not trying to belittle people like SuSE quite the

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Martin Schulze
Michael Meskes wrote: On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 04:07:31PM +, Raja R Harinath wrote: I agree that by using XForms in development, and XForms *is* needed to compile and run LyX, we have implicitly allowd all users to link Lyx with XForms. I don't see how it follows. we have

Re: [ettrich@troll.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Michael Meskes wrote: How about this one? I told him I would remove the first sentence but other than that it looks okay to me. looks good to me, with or without the first sentence. it's true, anyway. the GPL is often a source of misunderstanding and confusion.

Intend to package, create OSS/Free

1998-10-12 Thread Guenter Geiger
Hi there ! The current way to add sound support on Debian is either installing the kernel-source and compiling OSS or installing the ALSA packages. What about providing a modularized, precompiled OSS package and a sound installation tool ? This sound installation tool should use isapnp to

RE: lesstif

1998-10-12 Thread Guenter Geiger
Same for me, snd doesn´t work with current lesstif version Guenter

Re: LICENSES [was: Re: Have you seen this?]

1998-10-12 Thread Raul Miller
Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: note that there is also an exemption for libraries which normally come with the operating system - and libc definitely qualifies there... Nope. Some of the time, libc would qualify for that special excemption. But it doesn't qualify for anything shipped

Re: PROPOSAL: one debian list for all porting efforts

1998-10-12 Thread Hartmut Koptein
to increase communication betweenm the ports and between porters and non-porters, I'd propose a new list: debian-porting or sim. I fully support this proposal (The name debian-porting seems fine to me) No, we haven't enough topics for this new list. IMHO, it makes sence to create

Re: dpkg config files in /etc ?

1998-10-12 Thread Ilya L Ovchinnikov
On Thu, Oct 08, 1998 at 12:47:09PM -0400, Stephen J. Carpenter wrote: On Thu, Oct 08, 1998 at 11:48:08AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: Thomas Gebhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the configuration files of all debian packages are located in /etc. That's really fine. But the

Re: LICENSES [was: Re: Have you seen this?]

1998-10-12 Thread Raul Miller
Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: KDE requires Qt currently. So KDE is non free. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _No_. This does not necessarily follow, even if both statements may both be true. KDE simply depends on something that is non-free. Except that KDE programs have been

Re: Electric VLSI Design System now open source!

1998-10-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 09:27:07AM -0700, Dan Kegel wrote: I am pleased to announce that the Electric VLSI Design System is now available to anyone who wishes to use it. Unless someone has beaten me to it I will attempt to package it asap (which could be a couple of weeks). Sounds very good

Re: KDE gone, Lyx next ?

1998-10-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 09:13:44AM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 12:09:15PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: There's probably plenty of other problematic packages in contrib too, as Raul has been telling us for a while. www-mysql, for example, although it'll move in to

Re: Intend to package, create OSS/Free

1998-10-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 01:51:24PM -0700, Guenter Geiger wrote: The current way to add sound support on Debian is either installing the kernel-source and compiling OSS or installing the ALSA packages. What about providing a modularized, precompiled OSS package and a sound installation

GPL source policy.

1998-10-12 Thread Masato Taruishi
Hi, There is a section from GPL: b) Accompany it with a written offer, valid for at least three years, to give any third party, for a charge no more than your cost of physically performing source distribution, a complete machine-readable copy of the corresponding source code, to

Re: KDE gone, Lyx next ?

1998-10-12 Thread Raul Miller
Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there is no combined work until the source is compiled, linked to the non-free library, and a binary produced. Please show me where the GPL says this. I'm tired of pointing out this is false, quoting from the GPL to show you were it says different, and

Re: I2O specs mailed to webmaster

1998-10-12 Thread Gregory S. Stark
Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: it was mailed from a dummy hotmail account ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), and the originating IP was from an ISP in Norway. On the off chance that the original sender is reading this, or looking at the e-mail archive: Hotmail is not an anonymous mailing system,

Re: sendmail libc6 [was: Squid2, how to handle incompatible upgrade]

1998-10-12 Thread peloy
Miquel van Smoorenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only pain I had to face was that I had to upgrade my libc6 and that upgrade broke sendmail, so I had to upgrade sendmail as well. Uh - oh .. please check out this bug: #27334: libc6:

Re: copyright problem

1998-10-12 Thread mummertpartner_meskesm
Okay, Matthias also agrees with my version. Let´s see if the other LyX guys say. Could we get this into the LyX package ASAP? Who´s in charge now? Mark? Michael -- Weitergeleitet von MummertPartner MeskesM/D/ExternalStaff/WLB on 12.10.98 16:02 ---

Antwort: Re: [ettrich@troll.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread mummertpartner_meskesm
looks good to me, with or without the first sentence. For me too. it's true, anyway. the GPL is often a source of misunderstanding and confusion. witness KDE, for example. Yes, your right. But I think this sentence doens´t fit well into a license file. if ettrich is willing to write

September LJ

1998-10-12 Thread Federico Di Gregorio
Hi all and sorry for the SPAM... but I just read my Spetember issue of the Linux Journal and I noted that on page 6 the Editor says: This is one reason we choose the Debian distribution to use in our office. ^^ that's US!

Re: I2O specs mailed to webmaster

1998-10-12 Thread Thomas Lakofski
On 12 Oct 1998, Gregory S. Stark wrote: On the off chance that the original sender is reading this, or looking at the e-mail archive: Hotmail is not an anonymous mailing system, and makes no pretense of such. They will happily hand over records if needed. Equally the information you supply to

Local IP address / Java Incompatibility

1998-10-12 Thread Rainer Dorsch
We found an incompatibility between Java on Solaris 2.5.1/2.6 and on Debian 2.0.r2 Could anybody suggest how to find out, if it is a bug in Debian Linux or JDK? Additions to the included bug report: - $ hostname -i 129.69.183.3 gives the correct answer in a shell. - Debian 2.0 comes with

Re: KDE hurts Qt (LICENSES)

1998-10-12 Thread Alan Cox
Alan: This is a perfect example of FUD! No SuSE has the biggest rate of growth of all Linux distributors in the US. And SuSE and Red Hat and all of them put together are not worth a US lawsuit yet. Price yourself a US lawsuit then judge again. Make them 5 times bigger and yes

LyX KDE

1998-10-12 Thread mummertpartner_meskesm
I might be able to get a similar license agreement for KDE as the one I send for LyX. Would that be enough to get at least major parts of KDE back on the site? I have no idea how much we would have to keep out. I know kghostview and kdvi, but other than that? Since I use Gnome I cannot simply

Re: Local IP address / Java Incompatibility

1998-10-12 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Yes, it works now! Thanks. Could anybody think of negative implications of doing this reverse ordering of the localhost and ip address entries? Rainer Dorsch wrote: We found an incompatibility between Java on Solaris 2.5.1/2.6 and on Debian 2.0.r2 Could anybody suggest how to find out,

Re: Intend to package, create OSS/Free

1998-10-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Guenter == Guenter Geiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Guenter What about providing a modularized, precompiled OSS package Guenter and a sound installation tool ? Please also consider a src.deb package (look at pcmcia_cs packages for example) that puts the sources in

Re: sendmail libc6 [was: Squid2, how to handle incompatible upgrade]

1998-10-12 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Miquel van Smoorenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #27334: libc6: breaks sendmail, probably problem in resolver details at http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/27/27334.html This is release-critical, IMO. I agree this is release critical. However,

Re: KDE hurts Qt (LICENSES)

1998-10-12 Thread Alan Cox
Just threadening with sueing is simply an action of FUD. I haven't threatened to sue anyone. You must have been listening to Matthais foaming at the mouth too much. Sorry for my harsh words. But it looks to me like some people are trying to keep kde people from making even better free

updates to Debian pages

1998-10-12 Thread James A. Treacy
This is just to help translators keep up to date with changes to the Debian pages. - distrib/distrib.wml was renamed to distrib/index.wml This caused changes to template/debian/menubar.wml and template/debian/navbar.wml I believe those are the only links affected,

Re: KDE hurts Qt (LICENSES)

1998-10-12 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Alan Cox wrote: And SuSE and Red Hat and all of them put together are not worth a US lawsuit yet. Price yourself a US lawsuit then judge again. Make them 5 times bigger and yes then its worth it. Martin Konold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wrong! If you are not

Re: exim really does need to be the standard MTA in slink

1998-10-12 Thread Tony Finch
Paul Slootman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally have confidence in Exim's quality in this regard. Demon (a large ISP in the UK and the Netherlands, www.demon.net) uses Exim as its customer-facing smtp interface, so I guess that they're convinced as well. To be precise, we use Exim for the

GNotepad

1998-10-12 Thread Ole J. Tetlie
Is anyone packing gnotepad? [ Sorry if anyone tried to a post of mine and bounced. I played with exim.conf and forgot to unplay the rewrite. ] -- Eschew obfuscation(go on; look them both up) (Brian White) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL

Re: GNotepad

1998-10-12 Thread Martin Schulze
Ole J. Tetlie wrote: Is anyone packing gnotepad? [ Sorry if anyone tried to a post of mine and bounced. I played with exim.conf and forgot to unplay the rewrite. ] wget + ./configure + vi src/main.c + make just finished. It looks nice, it seems to work. We should include it. However if I

Re: A Detailed Analysis of the GPL For KDE/QT

1998-10-12 Thread Raul Miller
Martin Konold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Programs linked to GPL'd library must be GPL, because by using the GPL'd library you have to comply to the license terms of this library. The main point is that USING a GPL'd library for a program is only allowed if the resulting program becomes GPL'd.

RE: updates to Debian pages

1998-10-12 Thread Darren Benham
On 12-Oct-98 James A. Treacy wrote: This is just to help translators keep up to date with changes to the Debian pages. - distrib/distrib.wml was renamed to distrib/index.wml This caused changes to template/debian/menubar.wml and template/debian/navbar.wml I

Re: [ettrich@troll.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
people to distribute LyX in both source and binary forms. This permission certainly includes linking against GUI toolkits like XForms, Motif, GTK, Qt or Win32. `... and distributing the resulting binary.' should be added. You can always link in the privacy of your home. What GPL

Re: LICENSES [was: Re: Have you seen this?]

1998-10-12 Thread john
Jim writes: So this isn't derivative in the sense of the OOP idiom IS-A... and you're saying that all I have to do to derive from something, is to include it unmodified or modified? In copyright law is a derivative of means contains a copy of all or part of. Copyright is about making copies.

Re: GPL source policy.

1998-10-12 Thread john
Masato Taruishi writes: In this, the licence sait that `valid for at least three years', but I can't understand what date the beginnings of `at least three years' starts actually from. From the date when the vendor began to sell it, or when buyers bought it, or else? From the moment the

Re: updates to Debian pages

1998-10-12 Thread James A. Treacy
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 11:09:34AM -0700, Darren Benham wrote: Also, developers_corner.wml has been moved/renamed to devel/index.wml (also affecting templage/debian/menubar.wml and template/debian/navbar.wml as well as one of the news files in News/1997 (19971125.wml) One thing I forgot to

problem with new icewm

1998-10-12 Thread Michael Meskes
I installed both packages. After starting X I found that the old name is no longer the one compiled for gnome which removed all my applets from the panel. I changed my setup to call icewm-gnome instead and re-created my panels but had to notice that the panel applet no longer works. Not only does

Packages that disappeared

1998-10-12 Thread Michael Meskes
I noticed that some packages disappeared from the site. Could anyone enlighten me whether they are superceeded, not needed or whatelse happend? libstdc++2.8 libg++2.8 I know these are special cases since there is no source. But as long as we need the libs we need the packages,

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 12:25:12PM +0200, Gergely Madarasz wrote: How can we be sure that LyX does not include things not written by them? Wait a moment. Don't let this become ridiculous. How can we be sure that Ulrich Depper didn't include non-GPL stuff in his glibc? You can ask this ofr every

Re: Intent to package: smtpfeed and sendmail-wide

1998-10-12 Thread Fumitoshi UKAI
At Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:02:06 -0400 (EDT), Richard A Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hrm... The requested URL /~monotori/sendmail.html was not found on this server. Oops, sorry, it's typo. The URL should be http://www.wide.ad.jp/~motonori/sendmail.html Is there somewhere else I can look? am

Re: Packages that disappeared

1998-10-12 Thread Martin Schulze
Michael Meskes wrote: xadmin Request by maintainer=author, iirc. x11amp-static mp3.8hz You didn't watch the 100 messages thread on debian-private? Regards, Joey -- Linux - the choice of a GNU generation

Re: problem with new icewm

1998-10-12 Thread Martin Schulze
Michael Meskes wrote: I installed both packages. After starting X I found that the old name is no longer the one compiled for gnome which removed all my applets from the panel. I changed my setup to call icewm-gnome instead and re-created my panels but had to notice that the panel applet no

Re: Packages that disappeared

1998-10-12 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 06:13:33PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: gnome-mico gnome-mico-dev Replaced by an ORB written by the GNOME folks themselves, orbit. Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Michael Meskes wrote: On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 12:25:12PM +0200, Gergely Madarasz wrote: How can we be sure that LyX does not include things not written by them? Wait a moment. Don't let this become ridiculous. How can we be sure that Ulrich Depper didn't include

Re: problem with new icewm

1998-10-12 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Michael Meskes wrote: I installed both packages. After starting X I found that the old name is no longer the one compiled for gnome which removed all my applets from the panel. I changed my setup to call icewm-gnome instead and re-created my panels but had to notice

Re: [ettrich@troll.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Raul Miller
Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I told him I would remove the first sentence but other than that it looks okay to me. Yeah. With that first sentence in, I think he'd argue that he doesn't need anyone's permission to apply it to third-party GPLed software: he's declaring what the GPL

Re: Intent to package LEIM

1998-10-12 Thread Milan Zamazal
Grr, after I uploaded it I've found emacs20 *source* package already contains all the LEIM data files, so I removed the uploaded leim package. I think the best solution would be to produce leim binary package from the emacs20 source package. Rob, could you do so in the next version of the

Re: gnome and gtk--

1998-10-12 Thread Ben Gertzfield
Chris == Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Chris Perhaps I'm missing something, but I don't see any way of Chris using gtk-- with gnome at the moment. I was going to try Chris packaging gnome-hack (for my own use -- I'd want to check Chris with the nethack maintainer before

Thoughts on installation

1998-10-12 Thread Dave Swegen
First of all a quick apology if it turns out the following message isn't being posted to the correct forum. A few weeks ago I switched from RH to debian, and was slightly dismayed at the installation process, which I found to be less than flexible. After wrestling with it for some six-seven hours

Re: Ropes in stl (was Re: lack of wstring in libstdc++2.8-dev)

1998-10-12 Thread Rob Browning
Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But I get these errors: In file included from /usr/include/g++-2/stl_rope.h:2107, from /usr/include/g++-2/rope.h:18, from blah.cc:1: /usr/include/g++-2/ropeimpl.h:1085: warning: decimal integer constant is so large that it

Re: Intent to package LEIM

1998-10-12 Thread Rob Browning
Milan Zamazal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Grr, after I uploaded it I've found emacs20 *source* package already contains all the LEIM data files, so I removed the uploaded leim package. I think the best solution would be to produce leim binary package from the emacs20 source package. Rob,

Re: updates to Debian pages

1998-10-12 Thread Philipp Frauenfelder
Hi James A. Treacy wrote: One thing I forgot to mention to you. Could you please add the final / on directories? It is proper to add them, but not mandatory. Additionally it confuses the urlchecker I use (yeah I'll fix it eventually). I have already fixed the occurrences of devel/ and got a

Re: Local IP address / Java Incompatibility

1998-10-12 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 04:18:54PM +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote: We found an incompatibility between Java on Solaris 2.5.1/2.6 and on Debian 2.0.r2 Could anybody suggest how to find out, if it is a bug in Debian Linux or JDK? You have to use getLocalHost() on a connected Socket, not on

Re: debian/rules and find

1998-10-12 Thread Rob Browning
Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So please check your debian/rules files for constructs like the following: chmod g+w `find debian/tmp -name foo` find debian/tmp -name foo|xargs chmod g+w the correct way to implement this would be find debian/tmp -name

Re: GNotepad

1998-10-12 Thread Martin Schulze
Ole J. Tetlie wrote: Is anyone packing gnotepad? [ Sorry if anyone tried to a post of mine and bounced. I played with exim.conf and forgot to unplay the rewrite. ] Since nobody stepped forward, I take it for now. It in the process of being built right now. Regards, Joey -- Linux

Re: Bug#27753: libpgjava: depends on jdk1.1-runtime, which is now included in jdk1.1

1998-10-12 Thread Stephen Zander
Hamish == Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hamish Why doesn't jdk1.1 provide java-virtual-machine? That's an Hamish officially listed virtual package and would have avoided Hamish this problem, and would also solve two bug reports filed Hamish against guavac. Because I

Re: gnome and gtk--

1998-10-12 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hello, On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 03:28:27PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: Havoc Pennington wrote: On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, Chris Waters wrote: I think it would really be nice to get a gnome-supporting version of gtk-- in before the slink freeze. Is anyone working on this? Not really

Re: gnome and gtk--

1998-10-12 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 03:28:27PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: Havoc Pennington wrote: On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, Chris Waters wrote: I think it would really be nice to get a gnome-supporting version of gtk-- in before the slink freeze. Is anyone working on this? Not really possible

Re: Intend to package, create OSS/Free

1998-10-12 Thread robbie
Hi Why are the sound modules not included with the kernel? Afaik they are in Redhat. Regards -- Robbie Murray

Re: gnome and gtk--

1998-10-12 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: Mmmh. I just checked. The reason why gtk-- is currently w/o gnome support is, because I never installed libgnome-dev I think. I'm just doing it now and will recompile gtk-- (or better: I'll try to compile gtk-- 0.9.17) with gnome support. Any

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