Re: Packages that disappeared

1998-10-13 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed that some packages disappeared from the site. Could anyone enlighten me whether they are superceeded, not needed or whatelse happend? xadmin My package/program... Removed because it broke to many of the Debian guidelines, and I don't have

Re: Java license problems?

1998-10-13 Thread Stephen Zander
John == John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Do we have some special permission to redistribute Java? John From my reading of the license, we are not allowed to give John it out to anybody else: John 1. Limited License Grant. Sun grants to you (Licensee) a John

Re: gnome and gtk--

1998-10-13 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 04:21:05PM -0500, Havoc Pennington wrote: On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, Chris Waters wrote: anything more with it), but it seems to require gtk-- and gtk1.1, and the two don't seem to work together at this point. I think it would really be nice to get a gnome-supporting

Need some help determining which package owns a perl bug

1998-10-13 Thread Colin Telmer
A perl script called sync-plan included in pilot-link calls both MD5.pm (from the libmd5-perl package) and and PDA/Pilot.pm (from the pilot-link-perl package). Both of these live in /usr/lib/perl. However, when sync-plan is executed, the following error message appears: Can't locate PDA/Pilot.pm

Re: New maintainer for es, done right this time

1998-10-13 Thread James Troup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Format: 1.5 Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:03:31 -0400 Source: es Binary: es Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.90beta1-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: es - An extensible shell based on `rc'.

Re: KDE gone, Lyx next ?

1998-10-13 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Raul Miller wrote: Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there is no combined work until the source is compiled, linked to the non-free library, and a binary produced. Please show me where the GPL says this. I'm tired of pointing out this is false, quoting from the

Re: Bug#27697: auto-include-dependency failure case

1998-10-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, To cut a long story short, you have some .c files that depend on a .h file. Initially, that .h file does not depend on anything. You have set it up so that the dependency files are created for the .c files, and, sure enough, the dependency files are created for the .c files when

Re: gnome and gtk--

1998-10-13 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 03:28:27PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: 'Bout what I figured, but wouldn't it be possible to produce two versions which conflict? Not a perfect solution, but it would make it possible for people like me who want to work on gnome-related gtk-- stuff to do so. The

Re: Bug#27697: auto-include-dependency failure case

1998-10-13 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On 12 Oct 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Hi, To cut a long story short, you have some .c files that depend on a .h file. Initially, that .h file does not depend on anything. You have set it up so that the dependency files are created for the .c files, and, sure enough, the

new package suggestions and offer to take over others

1998-10-13 Thread Ben Collins
I spent some time setting up packages for 2 pieces of software i use since I really like having all my stuff installable/uninstallable thru dpkg. They are: Abacus Sentry v0.61: Port Scan detector OSF's DCE Runtime: Runtime and libs/headers for developing DCE applications. This is based on the

Re: problem with new icewm

1998-10-13 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
Also I would prefer an alternative setup for these two packages with icewm-gnome getting the higher one. Or even divided into three: icewm-common, icewm-gnome, icewm-nognome. This should be kept as `icewm' imho. Or we can bet on a Gnomeish future and have xxx.deb and x-nognome.deb

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-13 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 12:25:12PM +0200, Gergely Madarasz wrote: [...] I agree that by using XForms in development, and XForms *is* needed to compile and run LyX, we have implicitly allowd all users to link Lyx with XForms. [...] I don't think so. It is not enough for

IGNORE Re: Need some help determining which package owns a perl bug

1998-10-13 Thread Colin Telmer
I quickly realized that this is an artifact of per5.005 - I'll downgrade. Cheers. On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Colin Telmer wrote: A perl script called sync-plan included in pilot-link calls both MD5.pm (from the libmd5-perl package) and and PDA/Pilot.pm (from the pilot-link-perl package). Both of

Re: KDE gone, Lyx next ?

1998-10-13 Thread Raul Miller
Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: similarly, i am tired of pointing out the errors in your misinterpretation of the GPL. Er... could you at least back up your assertions with quotes from the GPL which support your position? Thanks, -- Raul

Re: [ettrich@troll.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-13 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 11:58:16AM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: How about this one? I told him I would remove the first sentence but other than that it looks okay to me. Michael - Forwarded message from Matthias Ettrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] - If we do something like this, I'd

Re: [ettrich@troll.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-13 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 01:44:18PM -0300, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: people to distribute LyX in both source and binary forms. This permission certainly includes linking against GUI toolkits like XForms, Motif, GTK, Qt or Win32. `... and distributing the resulting binary.' should

Re: Intend to package, create OSS/Free

1998-10-13 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 06:56:22PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why are the sound modules not included with the kernel? Afaik they are in Redhat. They are. The intent is to package binaries for the standard kernels already made... pgpltzRfWWC4i.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: LyX KDE

1998-10-13 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 04:38:45PM +0100, mummert[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I might be able to get a similar license agreement for KDE as the one I send for LyX. Would that be enough to get at least major parts of KDE back on the site? I have no idea how much we would have to keep out. I know

Re: GNotepad

1998-10-13 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 06:18:47PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: wget + ./configure + vi src/main.c + make just finished. It looks nice, it seems to work. We should include it. However if I push the exit button I get a Gdk segfault message. Please upload it. I'd like to get a look at it.

Re: September LJ

1998-10-13 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 04:08:08PM +0200, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: This is one reason we choose the Debian distribution to use in our office. ^^ that's US! Whoa! RH take that! eh eh eh

[warp@whitestar.soark.net] Bug#27841: apt: apt depends on a missing library

1998-10-13 Thread Ben Gertzfield
Nobody has moved on getting libstdc++2.8 back in slink, even without a -dev. Is anyone going to do this? Ben -- Brought to you by the letters F and E and the number 5. Nerd. Loser. Jerk. Moron. Worm. Scum. Idiot. Fool. -- Pkunk, SCII Debian GNU/Linux -- where do you want to go tomorrow?

Re: Intend to package, create OSS/Free

1998-10-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Wichert == Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wichert Could you please document somewhere how to do this? I've Wichert just implemented this for the ALSA packaged after someone Wichert described the process in a bugreport.. and I have to say Wichert it's a royal PITA to get the

Odd dependancy situation with libc6 and libc6-dev

1998-10-13 Thread Ben Gertzfield
Wow. I was installing some slink packages today with dpkg on my hamm system, and I got myself into a wacky situation. I'd had the latest hamm versions of libc6 and libc6-dev (2.0.7t-1) installed. I installed the slink version of libc6 (2.0.7u-2) without a hitch. But then I realized I should have

Re: Odd dependancy situation with libc6 and libc6-dev

1998-10-13 Thread Joey Hess
FWIW, I ran into the exact same thing today and apt corrected it. Ben Gertzfield wrote: Wow. I was installing some slink packages today with dpkg on my hamm system, and I got myself into a wacky situation. I'd had the latest hamm versions of libc6 and libc6-dev (2.0.7t-1) installed. I

Re: Intend to package, create OSS/Free

1998-10-13 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Oct 13, 1998 at 12:07:29AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Actually, since yo have done it, you have way more experience with the process than I (I just do the make-kpkg end). Could you please document what you did? I shall chime in and add what make-kpkg provides, and what

Re: new package suggestions and offer to take over others

1998-10-13 Thread Mitch Blevins
Ben Collins wrote: I spent some time setting up packages for 2 pieces of software i use since I really like having all my stuff installable/uninstallable thru dpkg. They are: Abacus Sentry v0.61: Port Scan detector [snip] I am interested in this one. Thanks. -Mitch

Re: Edits to Startup Disk Help

1998-10-13 Thread Ole J. Tetlie
*-Marc Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | I posted a patch to the boot-floppies package with changes to the help | screen. Since I didn't get feedback on it I wonder if this is not the | approved method of making changes to other people's packages. I guess most developers prefer a bug being reported,

Re: [warp@whitestar.soark.net] Bug#27841: apt: apt depends on a missing library

1998-10-13 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
[Note: [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't work] On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 10:05:09PM -0700, Ben Gertzfield wrote: Nobody has moved on getting libstdc++2.8 back in slink, even without a -dev. Daniel Jacobowitz (drow) is working on this IIRC, Personally, I'd rather see the packages that still depend on

Re: Edits to Startup Disk Help

1998-10-13 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 03:42:45PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote: I posted a patch to the boot-floppies package with changes to the help screen. Since I didn't get feedback on it I wonder if this is not the approved method of making changes to other people's packages. The edits, if you're

(sin asunto)

1998-10-13 Thread jrivas
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Rocks'n'Diamonds up for grabs

1998-10-13 Thread Ole J. Tetlie
I hereby announce that rocks-n-diamonds is available is someone wants to take it over. I'll keep maintaining until someone wants it though. The package currently has around four bugs (I think). The biggest problem is that it allows both writing highscores and new levels, which brings in some

Re: GNotepad

1998-10-13 Thread Martin Schulze
Michael Meskes wrote: On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 06:18:47PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: wget + ./configure + vi src/main.c + make just finished. It looks nice, it seems to work. We should include it. However if I push the exit button I get a Gdk segfault message. Please upload it. I'd

Re: KDE gone, Lyx next ?

1998-10-13 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Raul Miller wrote: Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: similarly, i am tired of pointing out the errors in your misinterpretation of the GPL. Er... could you at least back up your assertions with quotes from the GPL which support your position? i have done so on

Re: Rocks'n'Diamonds up for grabs

1998-10-13 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Tue, Oct 13, 1998 at 10:26:07AM +0200, Ole J. Tetlie wrote: The author is very friendly, but he doesn't reply instantaneously to mail. Nice understatement :-) Anyway, I seem to remember that the author reacted favourably to a request to change the license of Rocks'n'Diamonds (and another

Re: Packages that disappeared

1998-10-13 Thread Richard Braakman
Michael Meskes wrote: I noticed that some packages disappeared from the site. Could anyone enlighten me whether they are superceeded, not needed or whatelse happend? libstdc++2.8 libg++2.8 I know these are special cases since there is no source. But as long as we need the

Re: Thoughts on installation

1998-10-13 Thread M.C. Vernon
The second problem was installing X (an issue which I get the impression is already being addressed). Basically the X configuration process died on me all 4 times I tried it during install, leaving .dkpg-new files everywhere, so the only option was to install only the base system, and then

uudeview dependencies

1998-10-13 Thread Andreas Tille
Hello, today I had to uudeview a bas64 coded file. I consider it to be very boring that I have to install tk4.2 and tcl7.6 to get it working. In my opinion package maintainers should think about using the latest libs (tk8.0 and tcl8.0) if there are no importand incompatibilities. In the

KDE gone, Linux next ?

1998-10-13 Thread Matthew Parry
I think a much more important implication of the KDE debacle is what problems the GPL might make now that Linus is allowing proprietary drivers to be loaded into the kernel. Isn't this effectively the same as linking against a library? And even if it isn't, what are we going to do if

Re: KDE gone, Lyx next ?

1998-10-13 Thread Philip Hands
Raul, A question for you: Let's say I write a Qt program (and confirm that it works by linking it against Qt in the privacy of my own home) and then I include it (the source code) in a book as a programming example, and I GPL the whole book. Will people be allowed to copy and modify my

Re: 1st unpacking, 2nd dependency checking

1998-10-13 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sat, 10 Oct 1998, Martin Schulze wrote: Santiago Vila wrote: But occasionally I notices that dpkg first unpacks and installs the files in a particular package and checks dependencies afterwards. This means that wrong dependencies are discovered when it is too late since the

Re: KDE gone, Linux next ?

1998-10-13 Thread Martin Schulze
Matthew Parry wrote: I think a much more important implication of the KDE debacle is what problems the GPL might make now that Linus is allowing proprietary drivers to be loaded into the kernel. Isn't this effectively the same as linking against a library? Err. a) The free kernel links

Re: Does debian have an official standard scripting language ?

1998-10-13 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sat, 10 Oct 1998, Bill Mitchell wrote: As of debian 2.0, mawk and sed are `required' packages, so they should be present on any debian system. Only the essential flag (or the base-files trick) guarantees a package to be present in the system and allows a package not to have an explicit

Re: New Debian maintainer Jakob Borg

1998-10-13 Thread Martin Schulze
Please ensure that it's not illegal to distribute replay. 8hz.mp3 was removed due to patent/license problems. Regards, Joey -- Experience is a useful thing. Unfortunately it is only acquired just after one could have used it.

Antwort: Re: Packages that disappeared

1998-10-13 Thread mummertpartner_meskesm
Dan Jacobowitz tried to make a libstdc++2.8 package, but he ran into strange linking bugs. The generated library appears to be missing some symbols. Please look at the packages in http://master.debian.org/~dan/ if you think you can help. Sorry, no time to do that. movemail I don't know

Re: Odd dependancy situation with libc6 and libc6-dev

1998-10-13 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Joey Hess wrote: I'd had the latest hamm versions of libc6 and libc6-dev (2.0.7t-1) installed. I installed the slink version of libc6 (2.0.7u-2) without a hitch. But then I realized I should have been forced to upgrade libc6-dev at the same time! FWIW, I ran into

Re: KDE gone, Linux next ?

1998-10-13 Thread Matthew Parry
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:00:52 +0200 From: Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Matthew Parry wrote: I think a much more important implication of the KDE debacle is what problems the GPL

Re: Intend to package, create OSS/Free

1998-10-13 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Manoj Srivastava wrote: Actually, since yo have done it, you have way more experience with the process than I (I just do the make-kpkg end). Could you please document what you did? I shall chime in and add what make-kpkg provides, and what targets it calls. Darn, I had a

re-installing the same package in APT

1998-10-13 Thread Russell Coker
What is the suggested proceedure for when a package is damaged and needs to be re-installed? For example I have accidentally deleted a binary from a package and I want to re-install the package. I type apt-get install package but it tells me that the latest version of the package is already

Debian 2.[01] -- Only rudimentary support for Laptops?

1998-10-13 Thread Matthias Klose
Maybe the subject is a bit harsh, but currently users trying to install Debian on a Notebook face more problems than users installing it on a desktop computer. Compared with other Linux distributions Debian fails to install on some Notebooks (for example IBM Thinkpad 770) or requires handcrafted

Re: KDE gone, Linux next ?

1998-10-13 Thread Ben Collins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Can you explain to me what parts of the kernel can or cannot allow closed source modules? Even the way the system is setup now, any developer can create a module, and distribute it in compiled form without source code. I'm not sure how Linus could or couldn't

A little question about Debian

1998-10-13 Thread Matthias D
Hello, I would like to know if there is anything like usable with API or Corba technology or even Java (I know all that is Sun's property..) availaible with Debian or if someone plan to develop similar technologies... Or to use this do you recommend to directly jump into Solaris (the fact is that

Re: KDE gone, Lyx next ?

1998-10-13 Thread Raul Miller
Philip Hands [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's say I write a Qt program (and confirm that it works by linking it against Qt in the privacy of my own home) and then I include it (the source code) in a book as a programming example, and I GPL the whole book. Will people be allowed to

gdselect alpha 3

1998-10-13 Thread Tom Lees
I released alpha 3 to http://www.lpsg.demon.co.uk/gdselect/ today. The next release will have all features present. This is primarily a last testing phase. -- Tom Lees [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lpsg.demon.co.uk/ PGP Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Re: KDE gone, Linux next ?

1998-10-13 Thread Daniel James Patterson
On Tue, Oct 13, 1998 at 01:00:52PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: This won't be the case for regular machines. It might be the case for boxes that use crappy hardware where the manufacturer holds back the specs and doesn't allow development of free drivers. I can picture manufacturers who

Re: Rocks'n'Diamonds up for grabs

1998-10-13 Thread Ole J. Tetlie
*-J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | On Tue, Oct 13, 1998 at 10:26:07AM +0200, Ole J. Tetlie wrote: | The author is very friendly, but he doesn't reply instantaneously to mail. | | Nice understatement :-) Anyway, I seem to remember that the author reacted | favourably to a request to

Re: KDE gone, Lyx next ?

1998-10-13 Thread Philip Hands
Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Philip Hands [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's say I write a Qt program (and confirm that it works by linking it against Qt in the privacy of my own home) and then I include it (the source code) in a book as a programming example, and I GPL the

Intent to package: paul

1998-10-13 Thread Andreas Tille
Hello, for some special purposes I wrote a kind of an image viewer named paul = _P_rogram zur _A_uswertung und _U_mwandlung von _L_aserbildern (for non German speakers: Program to evaluate and convert laser images). The background is that I take some pictures of crystals using a highspeed

Re: Perl 5.005.02

1998-10-13 Thread Andy Dougherty
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 11:28:06AM -0400, Roderick Schertler wrote: Andy Dougherty, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote: After some thought, I think I'd recommend that perl5.005_xx retain the same directory structure that perl5.00[34]_xx did. (with 5.005 in place of 5.00[34],

Intent to package: formula and circ

1998-10-13 Thread Andreas Tille
Hello, to simplify the handling of physical symbols I wrote the style formula some time ago. It is used in our research group but because of broader interest I putted it on CTAN (for instance at: ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/other/formula ). Furthermore Sebastian

Intend to package `GtkAda'

1998-10-13 Thread Samuel Tardieu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- This is a gtk binding for GNAT. Sam - -- Samuel Tardieu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAwUBNiN834FdzKExeYBpAQGOAwP/ZcF3PJOKO+WIdjbr9eJ3pDuFzKSmT2jv

Re: KDE gone, Lyx next ?

1998-10-13 Thread David Damerell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, Oct 10, 1998 at 07:59:14PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: Joseph Carter wrote: It's irrelevant. Lyx is free code using a license that does not allow us to link it with non-free code. We can't distribute it if they won't modify their license. But like KDE, they deserve a

Re: KDE gone, Linux next ?

1998-10-13 Thread Kenneth Scharf
If the day ever comes that some hardware maker decides to write his own driver for Linux (say a maker of a win-modem decided to write a linux driver and throw the disk in the box) but did NOT license under the GPL, choosing to keep it propritory would that be so bad? As long as such software came

Re: Packages that disappeared

1998-10-13 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 07:44:55PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: Michael Meskes wrote: xadmin Request by maintainer=author, iirc. I see. x11amp-static mp3.8hz You didn't watch the 100 messages thread on debian-private? I never got it. In fact I was surprised I didn't get a single

gtop

1998-10-13 Thread Michael Meskes
Where is the gtop binary nowadays? Michael -- Dr. Michael Meskes | Th.-Heuss-Str. 61, D-41812 Erkelenz | Go SF49ers! Senior-Consultant | business: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Go Rhein Fire! Mummert+Partner | private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| Use Debian Unternehmensberatung AG |

Re: Packages that disappeared

1998-10-13 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 04:05:19PM -0700, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: I noticed that some packages disappeared from the site. Could anyone enlighten me whether they are superceeded, not needed or whatelse happend? xadmin My package/program... Removed because it broke to many of the Debian

Re: office package

1998-10-13 Thread Michael Meskes
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 01:02:37PM +0200, Bart Schuller wrote: Seriously, take a look at gnumeric if you haven't already. It looks awesome and is in very active development. It's part of Gnome. I did and I'm really impressed. However, I had some problems with it until I discovered that it works

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-13 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 08:29:00PM +0200, Gergely Madarasz wrote: The problem here is that we can't distribute it under the terms of the GPL (read the kde announcement) while they say it is plain GPL, so they say they can include other people's GPL-ed stuff. glibc2 doesnt have a contradictory

Re: gtop

1998-10-13 Thread Martin Schulze
Michael Meskes wrote: Where is the gtop binary nowadays? It has been moved outside of gnome and has its own cvs directory. Unfortunately the new maintainer has problems compiling it so it's not likely to meet the freeze date. Regards, Joey -- Experience is a useful thing.

Re: KDE gone, Linux next ?

1998-10-13 Thread Joseph Carter
On Tue, Oct 13, 1998 at 09:51:11AM -0700, Kenneth Scharf wrote: As long as such software came with the hardware, I can see no difference between that, and buying a copy of Wordperfect for Linux. We already have commerical X servers and sound drivers available which are NOT licensed under the

Developers in Virginia USA

1998-10-13 Thread Ben Collins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I'm looking for a developer in VA, USA, that would be willing to meet me and sign my pgp so I can submit the app for becoming a maintainer. I can give more details in private email or by phone. Thanks - Ben

Re: Packages that disappeared

1998-10-13 Thread Joseph Carter
On Tue, Oct 13, 1998 at 07:58:58AM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: x11amp-static mp3.8hz You didn't watch the 100 messages thread on debian-private? I never got it. In fact I was surprised I didn't get a single mail on private for at least two months. Could anyone please check whether

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-13 Thread Santiago Vila
On 11 Oct 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Santiago Well, kernel-package is a single package but it would be surely Santiago a lot of work, since there are a lot of new drivers. What does not work for you using kernel-package on newer kernels? I have never had a problem, so far, all

Re: KDE gone, Linux next ? [binary only support != good support]

1998-10-13 Thread Brian Ristuccia
On Tue, Oct 13, 1998 at 09:51:11AM -0700, Kenneth Scharf wrote: If the day ever comes that some hardware maker decides to write his own driver for Linux (say a maker of a win-modem decided to write a linux driver and throw the disk in the box) but did NOT license under the GPL, choosing to

Re: Debian 2.[01] -- Only rudimentary support for Laptops?

1998-10-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, As a counterpoint, my laptop, Digital HiNote VP 575, I could install the kernel-image-2.0.35 and the pcmcia images from the slink distribution, and they worked flawlessly. So there is some justification in having the pcmcia binay .deb files in the distribution. manoj --

Re: Packages that disappeared

1998-10-13 Thread Martin Schulze
Joseph Carter wrote: On Tue, Oct 13, 1998 at 07:58:58AM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: x11amp-static mp3.8hz You didn't watch the 100 messages thread on debian-private? I never got it. In fact I was surprised I didn't get a single mail on private for at least two months. Could

dropped from private? (was Re: Packages that disappeared)

1998-10-13 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Tue, 13 Oct 1998, Michael Meskes wrote: I never got it. In fact I was surprised I didn't get a single mail on private for at least two months. Could anyone please check whether I'm still listed there? Me too. I haven't gotten mail from private since about august. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas

Re: dropped from private? (was Re: Packages that disappeared)

1998-10-13 Thread Martin Schulze
Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: On Tue, 13 Oct 1998, Michael Meskes wrote: I never got it. In fact I was surprised I didn't get a single mail on private for at least two months. Could anyone please check whether I'm still listed there? Me too. I haven't gotten mail from private since about

Re: KDE gone, Linux next ?

1998-10-13 Thread john
Ben Collins writes: Can you explain to me what parts of the kernel can or cannot allow closed source modules? Even the way the system is setup now, any developer can create a module, and distribute it in compiled form without source code. I'm not sure how Linus could or couldn't prevent it,

Interesting article by Alan Cox

1998-10-13 Thread David Welton
This definitely has some relevancy to us. It's worth reading, IMO. http://slashdot.org/features/98/10/13/1423253.shtml Ciao, -- David Welton http://www.efn.org/~davidw Debian GNU/Linux - www.debian.org

Re: gdselect alpha 3

1998-10-13 Thread Martin Schulze
Tom Lees wrote: I released alpha 3 to http://www.lpsg.demon.co.uk/gdselect/ today. This looks quite impressive. Good work! One comment: On my system the gauge which is displayed first uses strange size. The y-stretch was about 5 times of the title bar. That looks ugly. I'd rather like it to

Bug Report?

1998-10-13 Thread Helmut Metzdorf
Hi, knowing my impatience i nevertheless dare rising my case here after only three days without answers on debian-users (worse off with Debian 2.0) because i think that its clearly a development issue. The situation: a self written programm (i'd like to run 24 hours a day) renders my computer

Re: KDE gone, Linux next ? [binary only support != good support]

1998-10-13 Thread Kenneth Scharf
---Brian Ristuccia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although I recognise how important good hardware support is to Linux's success, I don't consider binary-only support good support at all. I'd hate to be stuck in Company X's position. I'm sure you'd feel the same way if it was your business on the

Re: Edits to Startup Disk Help

1998-10-13 Thread Ben Gertzfield
Enrique == Enrique Zanardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Enrique About the approved method, I guess it is through the Enrique bug tracking system, but I don't mind downloading a Enrique patch, and it means less administrative work for me Enrique (it's a pain to deal with

Re: [warp@whitestar.soark.net] Bug#27841: apt: apt depends on a missing library

1998-10-13 Thread Ben Gertzfield
Ray == Ray J.H.M. writes: Ray Personally, I'd rather see the packages that still depend on Ray libstdc++2.8 recompiled for libstdc++2.9 . Of course, of course, nobody's arguing that. APT will be recompiled for libstdc++2.9. However, commercial apps and apps that are not part of Debian

Re: Debian 2.[01] -- Only rudimentary support for Laptops?

1998-10-13 Thread Adrian Bridgett
On Tue, Oct 13, 1998 at 02:46:35PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: Maybe the subject is a bit harsh, but currently users trying to install Debian on a Notebook face more problems than users installing it on a desktop computer. Compared with other Linux distributions Debian fails to install on

Re: A little question about Debian

1998-10-13 Thread Marc Singer
On Tue, Oct 13, 1998 at 03:43:48PM +, Matthias D wrote: Hello, I would like to know if there is anything like usable with API or Corba technology or even Java (I know all that is Sun's property..) availaible with Debian or if someone plan to develop similar technologies... Or to use

Re: Bug#27697: auto-include-dependency failure case

1998-10-13 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 06:47:14PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: What I have been doing of late is generating the .d file when the .o file is built. Nothing depends on the .d file but if it exists it is included. This makes the .o file depend on all included files and the .c file

Re: Bug Report?

1998-10-13 Thread Marc Singer
On Tue, Oct 13, 1998 at 09:03:25PM +0200, Helmut Metzdorf wrote: Hi, knowing my impatience i nevertheless dare rising my case here after only three days without answers on debian-users (worse off with Debian 2.0) because i think that its clearly a development issue. The situation: a

Re: gdselect alpha 3

1998-10-13 Thread Ben Gertzfield
Tom == Tom Lees [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom I released alpha 3 to http://www.lpsg.demon.co.uk/gdselect/ Tom today. The next release will have all features present. This Tom is primarily a last testing phase. I cannot get alpha 3 to compile. (snip) gcc -g -Wall -Werror

Re: Interesting article by Alan Cox

1998-10-13 Thread Marc Singer
On Tue, Oct 13, 1998 at 11:44:21AM -0700, David Welton wrote: This definitely has some relevancy to us. It's worth reading, IMO. http://slashdot.org/features/98/10/13/1423253.shtml AFAICS, Alan is right on. This is the same approach taken by the IETF and has been very productive. It is

Re: Packages that disappeared

1998-10-13 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 04:05:19PM -0700, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: I noticed that some packages disappeared from the site. Could anyone enlighten me whether they are superceeded, not needed or whatelse happend? xadmin My

Alarming Pine/remote netscape problem

1998-10-13 Thread Colin Telmer
(Perhaps I shouldn't post this to -devel, but I find this problem quite alarming and thought others should be aware of it) I have recently discovered that if I send mail from my work computer (SunStation) using Netscape 4.05 to my home computer (Debian slink) that if I reply to the message, the

Re: gdselect alpha 3

1998-10-13 Thread Martin Schulze
Ben Gertzfield wrote: I cannot get alpha 3 to compile. (snip) gcc -g -Wall -Werror -I/home/che/src/gdselect/gdselect-a3/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/lib/glib/include -c util.c -o util.o gcc -g -Wall -Werror -I/home/che/src/gdselect/gdselect-a3/include -I/usr/X11R6/include

Re: gdselect alpha 3

1998-10-13 Thread Ben Gertzfield
Martin == Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin Fixed by moving #include stdio.h five lines up. I Martin fixed it but forget about it, since it was *that* easy. Martin Not even worth mentioning. Er, in which file? The file that errored out was deps.c and it doesn't even

Re: gdselect alpha 3

1998-10-13 Thread Martin Schulze
Ben Gertzfield wrote: Martin == Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin Fixed by moving #include stdio.h five lines up. I Martin fixed it but forget about it, since it was *that* easy. Martin Not even worth mentioning. Er, in which file? The file that errored out was

Changing emacs20 to use latin1 encoding by default.

1998-10-13 Thread Rob Browning
There has been a discussion (Bug#27399) about making latin1 the default encoding for emacs20. Since I don't use anything other than the standard encoding, and since I'm not an encoding expert, I wanted to see what everyone else thinks about this. The claim is that this is just a superset of the

Re: gdselect alpha 3

1998-10-13 Thread Martin Bialasinski
BG == Ben Gertzfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin == Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin Fixed by moving #include stdio.h five lines up. I Martin fixed it but forget about it, since it was *that* easy. Martin Not even worth mentioning. BG Er, in which file? The file that

Re: gdselect alpha 3

1998-10-13 Thread Martin Schulze
Martin == Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin Fixed by moving #include stdio.h five lines up. I Martin fixed it but forget about it, since it was *that* easy. Martin Not even worth mentioning. Ben Er, in which file? The file that errored out was deps.c and

Re: gtop

1998-10-13 Thread Ian Lynagh
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Michael Meskes wrote: Where is the gtop binary nowadays? It has been moved outside of gnome and has its own cvs directory. Unfortunately the new maintainer has problems compiling it so it's not likely to meet the freeze date.