Release-critical Bugreport for January 22, 1999

1999-01-22 Thread BugScan reporter
Bug stamp-out list for Jan 22 00:03 (CST) Total number of release-critical bugs: 40 -- Package: apache (main) Maintainer: Johnie Ingram [EMAIL PROTECTED] 32204 user directories allow symlinks to other files

Re: Unsatisfied depends in slink main

1999-01-22 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Dale Scheetz wrote: Since the recent discussion with Richard Stallman about the unsatisfied suggests message, I have undertaken the examination of the main archives. The script that I am working on unpacks all of the .deb files it finds and collects Package:,

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Ed Boraas
On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, David Welton wrote: I think we should include it, as a service to people who don't want to download the whole thing, but attach a note saying As 2.2 was released just before we released slink, we are including it, but there may be problems, it might eat your computer... we

Re: Unsatisfied depends in slink main

1999-01-22 Thread Martin Bialasinski
DS == Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DS The most interesting problem looks like ppp, for which there isn't DS a package. This looks like a problem in your script, I would say. http://www.debian.org/Packages/frozen/base/ppp.html shows it, and I can happily download it from

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Ben Collins
On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 05:23:22PM -0600, David Welton wrote: On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 03:17:26PM -0800, Brent Fulgham wrote: I say let's make the 2.2 image a high-profile aspect of slink's release. The kernel is very stable, and I've been running my Debian system on it The kernel is stable,

RE: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Bruce Sass
How close to 3.0 does the 2.2 kernel get Debian? - Bruce -- On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Brent Fulgham wrote: I say let's make the 2.2 image a high-profile aspect of slink's release. The kernel is very stable, and I've been running my Debian system on it since 2.1.120. Plus, it would be a great

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Tim \(Pass the Prozac\) Sailer
On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 07:32:02PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: The kernel is stable, but is the kernel + debian stable? No one knows. All 4 of the Debian systems I run use 2.1.13x or 2.2.0-prex without any changes to the basic setup. 3 of these are slink, one is potato. So i say yes, it is

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Allan M. Wind
On 1999-01-21 19:32, Ben Collins wrote: All 4 of the Debian systems I run use 2.1.13x or 2.2.0-prex without any changes to the basic setup. 3 of these are slink, one is potato. So i say yes, it is stable with Debian. Most ppl. need a printer and /dev/lp changed radically betewen 2.0 and 2.2.

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread John Goerzen
On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 08:24:37PM -0500, Allan M. Wind wrote: On 1999-01-21 19:32, Ben Collins wrote: All 4 of the Debian systems I run use 2.1.13x or 2.2.0-prex without any changes to the basic setup. 3 of these are slink, one is potato. So i say yes, it is stable with Debian. Most

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Brent Fulgham
2.2. diald/ppp in slink does not work with 2.2.0-pre7 (on my box, at least). I am sure that there are other things as well. I'm sure you were aware that you have to upgrade your pppd to work with any of the higher-order 2.1.X kernels? You might want to check the kernel source's

slink's chameleon 1.0-2 depends on libgtk1.1.12, which is not in slink

1999-01-22 Thread Ben Gertzfield
Jason == Jason Gunthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dale Since the recent discussion with Richard Stallman about the Dale unsatisfied suggests message, I have undertaken the Dale examination of the main archives. Dale Dale The script that I am working on unpacks all of the

Re: Bug#27050 (fdutils): A cause for security concern?

1999-01-22 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously John Hasler wrote: As I noted, there are no calls to system or its ilk. That's good. I know how to fix the sprintf's. My plan now is to analyze the path followed by strings from input to consumption. It might be much easier to just replace them with snprintf's. Also check for

Re: Dpkg Update Proposal

1999-01-22 Thread Wichert Akkerman
First of all: please use a standard textwidth of at most 76. Right now your mail frankly looks horrible. Only due to vim's awesome reformating power is sending a reply doable :) Previously fantumn Steven Baker wrote: Package Naming Scheme --- The current naming scheme of

Re: Unsatisfied depends in slink main

1999-01-22 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Dale Scheetz wrote: The script that I am working on unpacks all of the .deb files it finds and collects Package:, Provides:, Pre-Depends:, Depends:, Recommends:, and Suggests: field information and deterines several things. You do know we have a packages file, don't you? And you do

Unmet deps again

1999-01-22 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
Ack people: Package wdm version 1.0-5 has an unmet dep: Depends: libwraster1 (= 0.50.2) Package chameleon version 1.0-2 has an unmet dep: Depends: libglib1.1.12 (= 1.1.12-1) Depends: libgtk1.1.12 (= 1.1.12-1) Package licq version 0.44-2 has an unmet dep: Depends: qt1g (= 1.41-2) Package

Help setting up Linux

1999-01-22 Thread Greg Hedger
I just installed Debian Linux - just the kernal and the core system, no XWindows, no frills. So where can someone new to Linux (indeed Unix) find answers to very basic questions like how do I mount a floppy drive, can I read a FAT32 partition, and why does my boot floppy get destroyed when I try

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Ben Collins wrote: All 4 of the Debian systems I run use 2.1.13x or 2.2.0-prex without any changes to the basic setup. Just to give this some counterweight: I just tried 2.1.132 with the OSS sound modules and they failed horribly. I've never seem them like this before. Luckily I have

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Ben Pfaff
Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Previously Ben Collins wrote: All 4 of the Debian systems I run use 2.1.13x or 2.2.0-prex without any changes to the basic setup. Just to give this some counterweight: I just tried 2.1.132 with the OSS sound modules and they failed

Re: Intent to package rolldice, blackjack

1999-01-22 Thread Joseph Carter
On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 02:31:10PM -0500, Stevie Strickland wrote: Just wondering, what's the output like and does it return for d10 0-9 or 1-10? Does it handle d%? Is the number of dice optional or must one feed it 1d8 for example? Does it return the results of each die or the total

Re: Dpkg Update Proposal

1999-01-22 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 11:36:00PM -0500, Andrew Pimlott wrote: On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 04:03:26PM -0500, fantumn Steven Baker wrote: Package Naming Scheme The problem is superficial. Sure, names should be more uniform, but all this requires is 1) ratifying naming standards and 2) ensuring

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Brian White
Would anyone object if kernel 2.2 were packaged up at least as a kernel-source package for slink? 2.0.3x would remain slink's default kernel, would be used on the boot disks, etc, but this would let people get ahold of kernel 2.2 easily on a debian cdrom, and it would let us say that debian

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Brian White
On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 12:34:57PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: Would anyone object if kernel 2.2 were packaged up at least as a kernel-source package for slink? 2.0.3x would remain slink's default kernel, I'de really like to see a kernel-image too, atleast for the non-i386 ports to use. The

Intent to package wmheadlines, wmglobe, and IglooFTP

1999-01-22 Thread chomsky
Time to start earning my keep =) WMheadlines is a suite of windowmaker menu plugins that let you see the current headlines on news sites such as freshmeat, slashdot, segfault, and linuxtoday. You click on a menu item and the news item is opened in netscape. wmglobe is an xearth hack that fits

Re: Where does 'www-data' come from?

1999-01-22 Thread Lars Bensmann
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 09:39:18AM +1100, Brian May wrote: The only thing my proposal changed was the UID and the GID of the web server, so that the web server doesn't have write access to the web files. It most cases, it is not required that the web server have write access to its files,

Re: Unsatisfied depends in slink main

1999-01-22 Thread James R. Van Zandt
Dale Sheetz writes: ... Package not in archives Package which depends on Package not in archives ... tclx emacspeak tclx74

Re: slink's chameleon 1.0-2 depends on libgtk1.1.12, which is not in slink

1999-01-22 Thread shaleh
Will do that in the next couple of days.

Re: jdk doesn't work at all - is anyone on it?

1999-01-22 Thread Stephen Zander
Dale == Dale E Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dale I'd say it's grave too - despite being non-free, this _is_ Dale the only decent java virtual machine available and java Dale isn't exactly unpopular. I'm here... and there are a couple of other problems with jdk that I only

Re: Unsatisfied depends in slink main

1999-01-22 Thread Jim Pick
Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: giflib3g-dev gdk-imlib-dev giflib3g-dev imlib-dev giflib3g-dev libfnlib-dev The full dependencies for these is more like: libungif3g-dev | giflib3g-dev Basically,

Re: Help setting up Linux

1999-01-22 Thread Jim Pick
Greg Hedger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just installed Debian Linux - just the kernal and the core system, no XWindows, no frills. So where can someone new to Linux (indeed Unix) find answers to very basic questions like how do I mount a floppy drive, can I read a FAT32 partition, and why

Re: Intent to package rolldice, blackjack

1999-01-22 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 04:04:20AM -0500, Stevie Strickland wrote: rolldice is a virtual dice roller that takes in a string on the command line in the format used by some fantasy role playing games like Advanced Dungeons Dragons[1] and returns the result of the dice rolls. i wrote some

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Allan M. Wind
On 1999-01-21 19:32, John Goerzen wrote: While the internals did change radically, the only thing most people need concern themselves with is that the /dev/lp? number changed by one digit. I hardly call that a radical change Well, it of course depends on how you define radical. I had two

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Ben Pfaff wrote: You do know that the OSS modules in 2.1.x are drastically changed, right? Sure, I browse linux-kernel on occasion. You need to provide them with the IRQs and ports that they need on the command-line, for instance. I noticed, otherwise you get some weird resource

Re: Intent to package rolldice, blackjack

1999-01-22 Thread Joey Hess
Joseph Carter wrote: Or if you're really crazy, you could allow optional + or - to affect the total, if that were -d12 above the total would be 21 for example.. If it doesn't do EVERYTHING by that point, what more can be said? = Yes, I think it needs to include a calculator things like 3d6 +

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Allan M. Wind
On 1999-01-21 17:36, Brent Fulgham wrote: 2.2. diald/ppp in slink does not work with 2.2.0-pre7 (on my box, at least). I am sure that there are other things as well. I'm sure you were aware that you have to upgrade your pppd to work with any of the higher-order 2.1.X kernels? You might

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Joey Hess
Wichert Akkerman wrote: I noticed, otherwise you get some weird resource busy-error. Didn't help though. My hardware isn't evil special.. (standard sb16 clone) Unfortunatly, this is as evil as it gets. According to the current kernel docs, there is no such thing as a SB 16 clone. There are a

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Joey Hess
Brian White wrote: [kernel image] No. We had enough problems upgrading from 2.0.35 to 2.0.36. This would be a major change and have corresponding reprocussions. I'm sure it's very stable, but it will have incompatibilities. No-one's saying this would be the default kernel. I think including

RE: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Brent Fulgham
It's Changes and yes I have read it: master:/home/wind# pppd -v pppd: unrecognized option '-v' pppd version 2.3 patch level 5 The issue being that there IS a problem - e.g. are we going to provide ppp1 and ppp2? That sounds like trouble to me. Real Question (not a snipe): Is there

Re: how rpm does it (Re: Dpkg Update Proposal)

1999-01-22 Thread Steve Dunham
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As I said before, rpm does have the capability to install 2 different versions of a package simulantaneously. Here's how it works, to the best of my knowledge. User interface: Rpm differentiates between installing a package and upgrading a package.

Re: mc bug? or i've not read the manuals

1999-01-22 Thread J. S. Connell
The bits get lost because both mc and emacs rename originalfile to originalfile~ (e.g.) and create a new originalfile, without preserving the original ownership/permissions. (n)vi does not suffer from this problem, but neither does it create backups. --Jeff

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Brian White
No. We had enough problems upgrading from 2.0.35 to 2.0.36. This would be a major change and have corresponding reprocussions. I'm sure it's very stable, but it will have incompatibilities. No-one's saying this would be the default kernel. I think including a kernel image would be

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Ben Collins
On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 10:02:52PM -0500, Brian White wrote: No. We had enough problems upgrading from 2.0.35 to 2.0.36. This would be a major change and have corresponding reprocussions. I'm sure it's very stable, but it will have incompatibilities. I'm using nothing but packages from

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Ben Collins
On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 10:43:23PM -0500, Allan M. Wind wrote: On 1999-01-21 17:36, Brent Fulgham wrote: 2.2. diald/ppp in slink does not work with 2.2.0-pre7 (on my box, at least). I am sure that there are other things as well. I'm sure you were aware that you have to upgrade your

Re: Intent to package rolldice, blackjack

1999-01-22 Thread Rafael Kitover
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 02:37:47PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: that's the good news. the bad news is that it was all done in turbo pascal. however, the algorithms were clean and readable, so easily ported to C. Hehe, you know there's a GNU Pascal? (package gpc) I haven't looked into it but it

Re: Bug#27050 (fdutils): A cause for security concern?

1999-01-22 Thread John Hasler
Wichert Akkerman writes: It might be much easier to just replace them with snprintf's. That is what I meant when I said I know how to fix them. Also check for things like strcpy()... I'd rather trace out the input string handling than just grep for dangerous functions. There isn't that

Re: Intent to package rolldice, blackjack

1999-01-22 Thread Joseph Carter
On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 07:37:18PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: Or if you're really crazy, you could allow optional + or - to affect the total, if that were -d12 above the total would be 21 for example.. If it doesn't do EVERYTHING by that point, what more can be said? = Yes, I think it

Re: KDE status?

1999-01-22 Thread Joseph Carter
On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 09:18:50PM +, Jules Bean wrote: Sure no problem. I had no intention of doing so. I was just curious as to the status. There will be no argument from me, especially since I agreed with Debian's stance on the matter. :) Brief summary, then: KDE will not be

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Joseph Carter
On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 12:34:57PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: Would anyone object if kernel 2.2 were packaged up at least as a kernel-source package for slink? 2.0.3x would remain slink's default kernel, would be used on the boot disks, etc, but this would let people get ahold of kernel 2.2

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Ionutz Borcoman
Joseph Carter wrote: On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 12:34:57PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: Would anyone object if kernel 2.2 were packaged up at least as a kernel-source package for slink? 2.0.3x would remain slink's default kernel, would be used on the boot disks, etc, but this would

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Johnie Ingram
Brian == Brian White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian make any difference. Both will show up in dselect and it would Brian be trivial for someone to install the new kernel... and then Heh, thats the idea. :-) Brian wonder why things don't work. Little things that few notice, apparently -- I

Re: Bug#27050 (fdutils): A cause for security concern?

1999-01-22 Thread Anthony Fok
Hello Ben, Avery and Wichert! On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 12:50:59AM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Anthony Fok wrote: As the Slink deep freeze and release are impending, I would like to ask your advice: Should I follow the suggestion given by the bug reporter Thomas Roessler? I

Re: Bug#27050 (fdutils): A cause for security concern?

1999-01-22 Thread Mikolaj J. Habryn
AF == Anthony Fok [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AF if (geteuid()!=0) die(Must run with EUID=root); AF I am a little bit tempted to comment that line out, but it's AF probably there for a reason, and I am definitely not qualified AF to hack fdmount.c, so for now I should probably

Re: Bug#27050 (fdutils): A cause for security concern?

1999-01-22 Thread Joey Hess
Ben Collins wrote: Any program that is suid or sgid for no reason what-so-ever is always a reason for a bug report, especially if it's suid root...we need some automatic catch for new packages that have suid or sgid binaries in them, or call suidregister. Lintian can serve as a check for the

Re: Intent to package rolldice, blackjack

1999-01-22 Thread Stevie Strickland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Just total, decided that was the important part (if you ask for 3d6, you're only interested in the result, unless you're doing something like method IV of rolling characters in ADD (I believe), in which you roll 4d6 and take the highest three, in which

Re: Intent to package rolldice, blackjack

1999-01-22 Thread Stevie Strickland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Joseph Carter wrote: Or if you're really crazy, you could allow optional + or - to affect the total, if that were -d12 above the total would be 21 for example.. If it doesn't do EVERYTHING by that point, what more can be said? = Yes, I think it needs

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 08:24:37PM -0500, Allan M. Wind wrote: Most ppl. need a printer and /dev/lp changed radically betewen 2.0 and 2.2. diald/ppp in slink does not work with 2.2.0-pre7 (on my box, at least). I am sure that there are other things as well. ---end quoted text--- I think it's

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Rob Tillotson
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wichert Akkerman wrote: I noticed, otherwise you get some weird resource busy-error. Didn't help though. My hardware isn't evil special.. (standard sb16 clone) Unfortunatly, this is as evil as it gets. According to the current kernel docs, there is no

Re: Intent to package rolldice, blackjack

1999-01-22 Thread Stevie Strickland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Craig Sanders wrote: that's the good news. the bad news is that it was all done in turbo pascal. however, the algorithms were clean and readable, so easily ported to C. if you're interested, i'll dig up the files (i still have them on

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Brent Fulgham wrote: 2.2. diald/ppp in slink does not work with 2.2.0-pre7 (on my box, at least). I am sure that there are other things as well. I'm sure you were aware that you have to upgrade your pppd to work with any of the higher-order 2.1.X kernels? You might

pppd 2.3.5 (was RE: getting kernel 2.2 into slink)

1999-01-22 Thread Ed Boraas
On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Brent Fulgham wrote: The issue being that there IS a problem - e.g. are we going to provide ppp1 and ppp2? That sounds like trouble to me. Real Question (not a snipe): Is there any reason everyone couldn't use a current pppd that would be compatible with the new kernel

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 04:00:50AM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Ben Pfaff wrote: You do know that the OSS modules in 2.1.x are drastically changed, right? Sure, I browse linux-kernel on occasion. You need to provide them with the IRQs and ports that they need on the

intent to package: sattrack

1999-01-22 Thread Hamish Moffatt
I am about to upload sattrack. I have previously announced this on debian-hams ... It is a sattelite tracking program. It is quite non-free (section non-free/hamradio) but I have obtained permission from the author to create a package, and have included that email in the copyright file. 73,

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-22 Thread Steve McIntyre
Enrique Zanardi writes: On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 10:22:39AM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: Am I missing something here? Where does it say that users should be able to install _all_ optional packages? The policy manual suggests that: 2.2 Priorities [...] optional (In a sense

Re: xxgdb should get pulled

1999-01-22 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 11:28:29 -0500, Daniel Martin wrote: Is my only other choice for a graphical debugger the lesstif-induced segfault ddd? Glad to see my work is appreciated. Perhaps this is where I need to point you to the power of having the source? You could e.g. try fixing LessTif

Re: Dpkg Update Proposal

1999-01-22 Thread Joey Hess
Craig Sanders wrote: i agree. in fact, it's more like a solution searching for a problem than even a superficial problem. It's a problem that is only evident to people who haven't lived with it for years. That doesn't mean it's not a problem. from the descriptions that have been posted of how

Re: Debian booth at LinuxTag '99?

1999-01-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Christian Weisgerber wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Federico Di Gregorio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am thinking about being there (I'll come from italy). If you find something, Wichert, can you please let me know... I CAN'T read german (hope conference language will

Re: Dpkg Update Proposal

1999-01-22 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 12:02:55AM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: Craig Sanders wrote: i agree. in fact, it's more like a solution searching for a problem than even a superficial problem. It's a problem that is only evident to people who haven't lived with it for years. That doesn't mean it's

the Great X Reorganization, package splits, and renaming

1999-01-22 Thread Branden Robinson
Just thought I would bring this up one more time and run it by everyone. This can be considered a draft of what I'd like to put in the release notes. The person managing that document has my permission to edit this down a little bit. *** The Great X Reorganization happened at version

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread M.C. Vernon
On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, David Welton wrote: The kernel is stable, but is the kernel + debian stable? No one knows. Well, assuming it's an improvement on the pre-release ones, we can make a pretty good guess :) I think we should include it, as a service to people who don't want to download

Re: Debian goes big business?

1999-01-22 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 06:12:14PM -0500, Ben Pfaff wrote: Laurent Martelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ChL == Christian Lavoie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ChL Bottom line: Debian should remain developer controlled. What about non-developper users ? Shouldn't they have a word

Re: Debian goes big business?

1999-01-22 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 20:26:12 +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 06:12:14PM -0500, Ben Pfaff wrote: Laurent Martelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What about non-developper users ? Shouldn't they have a word to say, even if they can't or do not have the time to

Re: Unmet deps again

1999-01-22 Thread Paolo Molaro
On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 07:32:27PM -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: Package stunnel version 2.1-2 has an unmet dep: Depends: libssl09 Stunnel is in potato, libssl09 in slink: I guess this is the CSOBNS again (continuing saga of broken non-us). lupus -- The number of UNIX installations has

mark bug #31824 (html2ps: can't execute) as critical?

1999-01-22 Thread Thomas Gebhardt
Hi, shouldn't we mark #31824 (html2ps: can't execute) as critical? html2ps does not work at all with this bug. Fortunately the bug can be fixed by deleting an erroneous character in the script. Cheers, Thomas

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Alexander N. Benner
hi Ship's Log, Lt. Ivan E. Moore II, Stardate 210199.1558: Brian, would this be too grave a violation of your no new code rule? probably... :( I'd say this should only apply to a not-more-then-a-month-freeze :) until potato get's out debian would get kinda out-of-date. On the other hand,

Re: Debian goes big business?

1999-01-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Christian Lavoie wrote: DISCLAIMER: These are notes, and can have technical impossibilites (especially concerning '.deb'ianizing of StarOffice) - Provide single user free of charge support through internet. (email/newsgroups/knowledge base/whatever) - Provide corporate

Re: Dpkg Update Proposal

1999-01-22 Thread Jules Bean
On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Craig Sanders wrote: the libgtk* versions are compatible with each other. the libgtk*-dev versions, are not (it would be possible to make it so by installing header files in /usr/include/gtk-VERSION, but you'd still have to modify every source file that #included it. in

Re: Unmet deps again

1999-01-22 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 10:45:42AM +0100, Paolo Molaro wrote: On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 07:32:27PM -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: Package stunnel version 2.1-2 has an unmet dep: Depends: libssl09 Stunnel is in potato, libssl09 in slink: I guess this is the CSOBNS again (continuing saga of

Re: Debian goes big business?

1999-01-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Laurent Martelli wrote: ChL == Christian Lavoie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ChL Bottom line: Debian should remain developer controlled. What about non-developper users ? Shouldn't they have a word to say, even if they can't or do not have the time to contribute with code

Re: Unsatisfied depends in slink main

1999-01-22 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Dale Scheetz wrote: Since the recent discussion with Richard Stallman about the unsatisfied suggests message, I have undertaken the examination of the main archives. The script that I am working on unpacks all of the

bzip2 compressed files

1999-01-22 Thread Russell Coker
Would it be possible to have files such as Contents*.gz also provided in bzip2 format to reduce download times when using slow links?

Re: Debian goes big business?

1999-01-22 Thread Ben Pfaff
Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 06:12:14PM -0500, Ben Pfaff wrote: They should have `a word to say', and they do--they can subscribe to Debian lists and give their feedback and advice, which developers are free to follow or ignore. But they do not,

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-22 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Steve McIntyre wrote: If there are optional packages that conflict with each other, we should choose one to stay in optional and move the others to extra. (Or change/ clarify the definition on the policy manual). The manual should be fixed IMHO - there are lots of

Re: bzip2 compressed files

1999-01-22 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 01:22:56PM +, Russell Coker wrote: Would it be possible to have files such as Contents*.gz also provided in bzip2 format to reduce download times when using slow links? Good idea. And Packages files too. But that would need implementation in dselect, and will only

The days of mSQL are counted

1999-01-22 Thread Martin Schulze
WHO needs the mSQL database? For quite a while I'm very unhappy with it. For half a year I have worked actively in moving to a different db. Yesterday I ported the last remaining program at home which was based on mSQL to PostgreSQL though a general SQL API. There are however some programs

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Michael Lea
At 11:32 PM 1/21/99 -0700, you wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Brent Fulgham wrote: 2.2. diald/ppp in slink does not work with 2.2.0-pre7 (on my box, at least). I am sure that there are other things as well. I'm sure you were aware that you have to upgrade your pppd to work with any of the

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-22 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Santiago Vila wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Steve McIntyre wrote: If there are optional packages that conflict with each other, we should choose one to stay in optional and move the others to extra. (Or change/ clarify the definition on the policy manual). The manual

Re: mark bug #31824 (html2ps: can't execute) as critical?

1999-01-22 Thread Martin Schulze
severity 31824 important thanks Thomas Gebhardt wrote: shouldn't we mark #31824 (html2ps: can't execute) as critical? html2ps does not work at all with this bug. Fortunately the bug can be fixed by deleting an erroneous character in the script. I believe we should. netgod will upload a new

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Brian White
Would anyone object if kernel 2.2 were packaged up at least as a kernel-source package for slink? 2.0.3x would remain slink's default kernel, would be used on the boot disks, etc, but this would let people get ahold of kernel 2.2 easily on a debian cdrom, and it would let us say that

Re: mark bug #31824 (html2ps: can't execute) as critical?

1999-01-22 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Thomas Gebhardt wrote: shouldn't we mark #31824 (html2ps: can't execute) as critical? html2ps does not work at all with this bug. Not critical but grave, since it makes the package in question unuseable or mostly so. Fortunately the bug can be fixed by deleting an

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Brian White
Brian make any difference. Both will show up in dselect and it would Brian be trivial for someone to install the new kernel... and then Heh, thats the idea. :-) Brian wonder why things don't work. Little things that few notice, apparently -- I would've sworn slink and 2.2.0-final

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 09:25:14AM -0500, Brian White wrote: There is precedent for this as there is a 2.1.125 package in slink now. I think it's not a big deal if there are big disclaimers attached that slink is not a 2.2 targetted dist. Disclamers are of marginal use. It will appear as

Re: the Great X Reorganization, package splits, and renaming

1999-01-22 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Branden Robinson wrote: Just thought I would bring this up one more time and run it by everyone. This can be considered a draft of what I'd like to put in the release notes. [...] Furthermore, the X font and static library packages have been renamed. The following

Re: Debian booth at LinuxTag '99?

1999-01-22 Thread Christoph Baumann
On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 03:45:46PM +0100, Philipp Frauenfelder wrote: Btw, how much is a stone throw? According to the map I used it's 62.5 km (if you go by plane). By train it will take 1.5 h . Christoph -- * Christoph Baumann * * [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-22 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Steve McIntyre wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Santiago Vila wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Steve McIntyre wrote: If there are optional packages that conflict with each other, we should choose one to stay in optional and move the others to extra. (Or change/ clarify the

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread thomas lakofski
On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Brian White wrote: I'll share that fantasy. As linux becomes more and more mainstream, it's going to be even more difficult to dream. Of course, the reality is that most users don't need the 2.2 kernel anyway. unfortunately (maybe) for Debian, very few inexperienced

anybody from Dortmund / Germany or around?

1999-01-22 Thread Thomas Adams
Is anybody from Dortmund / Germany or around here? I'd like to become a maintainer and need somebody to sign my PGP key.

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Brian White wrote: Including the source package I could be convinced of. At least then people have to think about what they're doing before causing potential problems. This think about what they are doing thing is precisely one of the reasons the extra priority does

Re: Intent to package rolldice, blackjack

1999-01-22 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 01:22:32AM -0500, Stevie Strickland wrote: that's the good news. the bad news is that it was all done in turbo pascal. however, the algorithms were clean and readable, so easily ported to C. if you're interested, i'll dig up the files (i still have them on tape

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Brian White
There is precedent for this as there is a 2.1.125 package in slink now. I think it's not a big deal if there are big disclaimers attached that slink is not a 2.2 targetted dist. Disclamers are of marginal use. It will appear as installable and tell people to install me just as an

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Brian White
Including the source package I could be convinced of. At least then people have to think about what they're doing before causing potential problems. This think about what they are doing thing is precisely one of the reasons the extra priority does exist. According to this it should

Re: Intent to package rolldice, blackjack

1999-01-22 Thread Stevie Strickland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- if you're interested, i'll dig up the files (i still have them on tape somewhere...i think. dusty old code from the early 90s :-) and mail them to you. i'll GPL them first, so you can do what you want with them. Cool! I'd always be glad to look at

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