Re: DFSG: list restrictions, not freedoms

1999-01-26 Thread David Welton
On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 03:44:04PM -0800, Chris Waters wrote: Rather than attempt to list all the freedoms that Debian guarantees, why not list the *restrictions* on freedom that we do allow, and say that any other restrictions violate our guidelines. I like your idea - I wonde what it would

Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-26 Thread Kragen Sitaker
On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote: If we must back out /var/mail (for no good technical reason that I can determine), then at the very least I think we should state that there that for all compliant distributions, /var/mail *MUST* be a valid way of reaching the spool directory (i.e.,

Re: filters: Licence problems

1999-01-26 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 11:18:05AM -0600, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: On Sun, Jan 24, 1999 at 11:43:33PM -0500, Avery Pennarun wrote: [ interesting solution to exercise 1, which I'm not quoting to avoid rule (2), but I have to comply with anyway because I want this message to make its way

Re: filters: Licence problems

1999-01-26 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, Jan 24, 1999 at 08:13:14PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depends on the cat :-) Indeed. Now all we need is a way of petting /bin/cat, and we can automate payment. This one is easy. Install this as your cron job: grep straying /bin/cat; touch

Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-26 Thread H. Peter Anvin
On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote: If we must back out /var/mail (for no good technical reason that I can determine), then at the very least I think we should state that there that for all compliant distributions, /var/mail *MUST* be a valid way of reaching the spool directory

Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-26 Thread Alan Cox
but I haven't heard any technical reasons besides, Moving spool directories is hard. When I and others have pointed out that moving the spool directory isn't required; just a symlink, I have heard dead silence. So the lack of technical discussion, but just a stony-silence No! is rather

Re: Proposal: increasing mirror security

1999-01-26 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Wichert Akkerman wrote: If people really want to be able to verify package integrity we might as well go the whole way. Ian Jackson posted (1.5 years ago I think) a proposal that would secure the complete stage from building a package to distribution on the mirrors.

Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-26 Thread H. Peter Anvin
One simple one - I want my mail on the spool disk. Its in the grows randomly, mostly crap, doesnt cause hassle if it fills for a while category That, I believe, is not the majority opinion. At most industrial sites, mail spool overflow is a major crisis. I have no problem with a both paths

Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-26 Thread Alan Cox
1. Interoperability with other systems. 10+ million Linux boxes use /var/spool/mail. Its also a spurious claim. All existing tools assume linux uses /var/spool/mail. Other systems even sharing via NFS dont get problems with this /var/spool usage 2. Disk space management. We've proved between

New logo strategy

1999-01-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Before I'm going to confuse people: I didn't mean to start the whole voting procedure this soon; I should have worded that better. After asking around a bit and seeing the reactions here it looks like most people would like to see a new logo. The license is also troublesome (and very hard to find

Debian booth at linuxworld, volenteers wanted

1999-01-26 Thread Joey Hess
I just received confirmation that LinuxCentral is funding a booth at the LinuxWorld expo for debian. I'll be organizing it and I'm still looking for more volenteers to help man the booth so let me know if you'll be attending LinuxWorld. I'm also looking for a source to donate some CD's to give

RE: DFSG: list restrictions, not freedoms

1999-01-26 Thread Darren Benham
Have you been looking at the current draft floating around? (latest revision is at: http://master.debian.org/~gecko/dfsg.text). It does that in part. It starts by listing the freedoms and then lists the acceptable restrictions. On 25-Jan-99 Chris Waters wrote: Rather than attempt to list all

Re: Debian booth at linuxworld, volenteers wanted

1999-01-26 Thread Dale E. Martin
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just received confirmation that LinuxCentral is funding a booth at the LinuxWorld expo for debian. I'll be organizing it and I'm still looking for more volenteers to help man the booth so let me know if you'll be attending LinuxWorld. Call me ignorant if

Re: Debian booth at linuxworld, volenteers wanted

1999-01-26 Thread David Welton
On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 05:12:28PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: I just received confirmation that LinuxCentral is funding a booth at the LinuxWorld expo for debian. I'll be organizing it and I'm still looking for more volenteers to help man the booth so let me know if you'll be attending

Re: Debian booth at linuxworld, volenteers wanted

1999-01-26 Thread Joey Hess
Dale E. Martin wrote: Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just received confirmation that LinuxCentral is funding a booth at the LinuxWorld expo for debian. I'll be organizing it and I'm still looking for more volenteers to help man the booth so let me know if you'll be attending

Re: Debian booth at linuxworld, volenteers wanted

1999-01-26 Thread M.C. Vernon
On 25 Jan 1999, Dale E. Martin wrote: Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just received confirmation that LinuxCentral is funding a booth at the LinuxWorld expo for debian. I'll be organizing it and I'm still looking for more volenteers to help man the booth so let me know if you'll be

Re: Debian booth at linuxworld, volenteers wanted

1999-01-26 Thread David Welton
On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 08:28:40PM -0500, Dale E. Martin wrote: Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just received confirmation that LinuxCentral is funding a booth at the LinuxWorld expo for debian. I'll be organizing it and I'm still looking for more volenteers to help man the booth so

Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-26 Thread Richard Gooch
Alan Cox writes: 2. Disk space management. We've proved between us that both views are held here. This therefore is a rather spurious claim. A (maybe) symlink called /var/spool/mail that points somewhere arbitary is all that is needed for this issue. The FHS need say nothing else I have

Re: New logo strategy

1999-01-26 Thread James A. Treacy
I'd like to thank Wichert for taking on this thankless task. I'd also like to ask that we set strict criteria for what constitutes a logo. I don't feel like going back through the archives, but the criteria I remember off the top of my head are: Works in B+W (the official version may, of

Re: New logo strategy

1999-01-26 Thread Steve Greenland
On 25-Jan-99, 19:06 (CST), Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with James Treacy's observation that we will probably need two logos: one logo with a liberal license that people can just freely, and another, more restricted logo for things like official CD's and so. To phrase

debhelper /usr/bin/passwd

1999-01-26 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi guys, I just updated my potato system. The only two packages that were being updated were debhelper and egcs-docs. I got a warning from dpkg that debhelper (it seemed) was trying to overwrite /usr/bin/passwd. Due to all of the trojan rumours flying around, I got a little scared. Also, I

Why /var/www? (Was: Where does 'www-data' come from?)

1999-01-26 Thread Juergen A. Erhard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Why is the www data under /var/www, while ftpd's stuff is under /home/ftp? Ain't ftp probably more `var'iable than www data (incoming!)? I personally thing either the ftp hierarchy should go to /var/ftp, or the www data should move to /home/www (the

Re: Why /var/www? (Was: Where does 'www-data' come from?)

1999-01-26 Thread Michael Stone
Quoting Juergen A. Erhard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I personally thing either the ftp hierarchy should go to /var/ftp, or the www data should move to /home/www (the latter I'd prefer). /home/(ftp|www) is just plain ugly. (It's a real pain when you're trying to share nfs home dirs between web

Re: New logo strategy

1999-01-26 Thread Jim Pick
Why don't we officially not have an official logo? If 5 years from now, everybody likes a certain unofficial logo (ie. Debian equivalent of the BSD daemon), we could go with that. Cheers, - Jim

Re: debhelper /usr/bin/passwd

1999-01-26 Thread Mitch Blevins
In foo.debian-devel, you wrote: Hi guys, I just updated my potato system. The only two packages that were being updated were debhelper and egcs-docs. I got a warning from dpkg that debhelper (it seemed) was trying to overwrite /usr/bin/passwd. Due to all of the trojan rumours flying

Re: debhelper /usr/bin/passwd

1999-01-26 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi Mitch, Could you please post the version(s) you have and which mirror you got it from? Sure! chsh and chfn were also in debhelper! I got debhelper using dselect/apt. Here is all the info you requested: % cat /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main

Re: New logo strategy

1999-01-26 Thread Steve Greenland
On 25-Jan-99, 21:11 (CST), Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3. It's creates a first-class and second-class logo. It creates, of course. I just love looking like an illiterate boob in front of several thousand people... Steve

linux 2.2.0: System is 666kB

1999-01-26 Thread Johnie Ingram
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hm, now theres a worrisome compile message. :-) Anyway, for you early adopters, I've made source and debs available at: ftp.netgod.net/linux/v2.2 Heres the checksums: ca629746d5baa1f3024a780312c96e28 kernel-doc-2.2.0_2.2.0-1_all.deb

Re: debhelper /usr/bin/passwd

1999-01-26 Thread J. S. Connell
The $1E6 question is now (a) why debhelper has symlinks pointing passwd/ chfn/chsh to sysdb-wrapper, and (b) where sysdb-wrapper comes from. --Jeff

Re: debhelper /usr/bin/passwd

1999-01-26 Thread Mitch Blevins
Ossama Othman wrote: Hi Mitch, Could you please post the version(s) you have and which mirror you got it from? Sure! chsh and chfn were also in debhelper! I got debhelper using dselect/apt. Here is all the info you requested: % cat /etc/apt/sources.list deb

WARNING: Re: debhelper /usr/bin/passwd

1999-01-26 Thread Joey Hess
Good greif. I'm sorry about this snafu. You weren't hit by an exploit attempt, just by a debhelper package I managed to leave some junk in. This is fixed in version 1.2.29, and it only affected version 1.2.28. Background: Yesterday I fixed a bug in dh_link, bug #23255. That bug concerns

Re: debhelper /usr/bin/passwd

1999-01-26 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi Mitch, It doesn't look like a trojan (this weeks hot topic) because his pgp sig matches the md5sum of the tarfile, and the tarfile reproduces the symlinks in the resulting deb. Great! That's good to know. So, I would just treat it as a bug. Please file a critical bug report against

Re: WARNING: Re: debhelper /usr/bin/passwd

1999-01-26 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi Joey, Thanks! I won't file that bug report now. :) -Ossama __ Ossama Othman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 58 60 1A E8 7A 66 F4 44 74 9F 3C D4 EF BF 35 88 1024/8A04D15D 1998/08/26

Re: debhelper /usr/bin/passwd

1999-01-26 Thread Mitch Blevins
In foo.debian-devel, I wrote: Well, I got the deb and source and dsc from the mirror you pointed out, and it _does_ have these files as symlinks in them pointing to sysdb-wrapper. It doesn't look like a trojan (this weeks hot topic) because his pgp sig matches the md5sum of the tarfile, and

Re: WARNING: Re: debhelper /usr/bin/passwd

1999-01-26 Thread Joey Hess
Joey Hess wrote: I'd say installing debhelper 1.2.28 with --force-conflicts is a _very_ bad idea. Unfortunatly, it looks like the current version of dpkg has --force-overwrite (which is what I meant to say above) enabled by default. And so anyone who ran dselect in the past 24 hours and

RE: New logo strategy

1999-01-26 Thread Darren Benham
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 26-Jan-99 Wichert Akkerman wrote: [snipped the original] I'm all for this, lock stock and barrel. To select the winner we should form a small group of developers to select a top-10 from all submissions and use those as the other options for the

skkinput sigsegvs applications

1999-01-26 Thread Ionutz Borcoman
Package: skkinput (BVersion: 2.01-1 (B (BHi, (B (BI try to use skkinput in my gtk application. Everything's OK with the (Bexception of this: (B- if skkinput is open when I close my application, then my application (Bsigsegvs. If the skkinput has no windows opened, than my application

Re: New logo strategy

1999-01-26 Thread Darren Benham
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 26-Jan-99 James A. Treacy wrote: I'd like to thank Wichert for taking on this thankless task. I'd also like to ask that we set strict criteria for what constitutes a logo. I don't feel like going back through the archives, but the criteria I remember

Re: the Great X Reorganization, package splits, and renaming

1999-01-26 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 02:18:56PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Branden Robinson wrote: You have yet to explain what will BREAK if people continue to use the old font packages. Not in the future, RIGHT NOW. Oh, you have yet to explain why a clock bomb is *not* a bad

Re: New logo strategy

1999-01-26 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 09:11:47PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: On 25-Jan-99, 19:06 (CST), Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with James Treacy's observation that we will probably need two logos: one logo with a liberal license that people can just freely, and another,

Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-26 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
From: Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 00:15:37 + (GMT) but I haven't heard any technical reasons besides, Moving spool directories is hard. When I and others have pointed out that moving the spool directory isn't required; just a symlink, I have heard dead

Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-26 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 07:09:34PM -0500, Kragen Sitaker wrote: If we must back out /var/mail (for no good technical reason that I can determine), then at the very least I think we should state that there that for all compliant distributions, /var/mail *MUST* be a valid way of reaching the

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Re: New logo strategy

1999-01-26 Thread M.C. Vernon
On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, James A. Treacy wrote: I'd like to thank Wichert for taking on this thankless task. I'd also like to ask that we set strict criteria for what constitutes a logo. I don't feel like going back through the archives, but the criteria I remember off the top of my head are:

Re: I'm a concerned about slink. specifically jdk1.1, idraw, and xaw-wrappers

1999-01-26 Thread Guenter Geiger
Dale E. Martin wrote Then I tried to use idraw, which I've used in the past a _bunch_ of times. It keeps segmentation faulting on me, and so I went to look at bugs.debian.org and the bug report about this is over 100 days old. ... and it is solved now :) Actually I have to say, if I would

Re: Debian logo its license

1999-01-26 Thread A . J . Gray
On Sun, Jan 24, 1999 at 07:26:19AM -, Robert Woodcock wrote: Avery Pennarun wrote: What if someone gets hold of the Linux kernel and uses it to guide nuclear missiles? (Well, at least they have to share their changes with us :)) Only if they distribute the control systems : You've

Re: Release notes for slink

1999-01-26 Thread A . J . Gray
On Thu, Jan 14, 1999 at 04:20:51PM +, Robert Woodcock wrote: Many of you are painfully aware that there are some issues in slink that are impractical to correct before release. snip xbase - xbase twm xterm xbase-clients xdm xf86setup How about

Re: dpkg port to HP-UX

1999-01-26 Thread Bdale Garbee
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Hmmm. swinstall (HP-UX native I think) seems to support dependencies. It's pretty ugly though and I don't know if there's a command line version. Yes, you can drive swinstall from the command line. It's not pretty, but it works. Unfortunately, there's

Intend to package gnat-glade

1999-01-26 Thread Samuel Tardieu
GLADE is the implementation of the Distributed Systems Annex for GNAT, the GNU Ada95 compiler. Since there already is a GLADE (a Gtk GUI builder), I will call the package gnat-glade since this is really a GNAT add-on. Sam -- Samuel Tardieu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: dpkg port to HP-UX

1999-01-26 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 02:22:13AM -0700, Bdale Garbee wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Hmmm. swinstall (HP-UX native I think) seems to support dependencies. It's pretty ugly though and I don't know if there's a command line version. Yes, you can drive swinstall from the

Re: Reality check! [was: Re: Debian goes big business?]

1999-01-26 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 09:33:16AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: hamm was released with a pre-selections wrapper, where you could chose certain sets of pre-selected packages. it works, but could use some improvement and probably needs to be updated for slink - there's a good place for you to

Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-26 Thread Florian La Roche
At least that way applications that want to use the same dirctory as the vast majority of other Unix systems will work without needing a special case for Linux. However, I would much rather see us adopt the full, correct solution, rather than this half-measure. How can changing from

Re: linux 2.2.0: System is 666kB

1999-01-26 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 11:39:07PM -0500, Johnie Ingram wrote: Hm, now theres a worrisome compile message. :-) Anyway, for you early adopters, I've made source and debs available at: What about uploading everything but the kernel-image package for Slink, now that Bryan has said he will

Re: linux 2.2.0: System is 666kB

1999-01-26 Thread Remco van de Meent
Enrique Zanardi wrote: (BTW, is kernel-headers still needed? libc6-dev ships with a full set of headers, doesn't it?) Right, but those are for 2.0.36 and the ones that come with 2.1/2.2 are different (and yes, I need those new ones thus I have to manually edit the things in /usr/include

Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-26 Thread t . sippel-dau
The keyboard of Kragen Sitaker emitted at some point in time: On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote: If we must back out /var/mail (for no good technical reason that I can determine), then at the very least I think we should state that there that for all compliant distributions,

Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-26 Thread Alan Cox
But I don't think the FHS should be specifying the actual location of the files at all. True, the FHS should not cause too much pain for the Ok good we agree on this The only thing that really matters is what pathnames applications can count upon to work. Given that the rest of the world

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-26 Thread Randy Edwards
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it would be great for Debian to get 2.2 in to slink, even if it is priority extra. I agree it should be included. We can change the priority so it's not automatically installed and warn people that it is experimental/might break things in dselect's

Re: the Great X Reorganization, package splits, and renaming

1999-01-26 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Avery Pennarun wrote: On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 02:18:56PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Branden Robinson wrote: You have yet to explain what will BREAK if people continue to use the old font packages. Not in the future, RIGHT NOW. Oh, you

Re: LSH (GPL'd SSH)

1999-01-26 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 16:49:57 -0500, Ben Collins wrote: NOTE: For those that are on the ball, they do seem to be considering removing idea from the base source and having it as a seperate module (similar to GnuPG's approach). Another freeness issue (albeit a relatively minor one) is that

Re: xxgdb should get pulled

1999-01-26 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 16:34:58 -0500, Daniel Martin wrote: [my rant deleted] I have yet to learn how to navigate this area, and am often surprised at how strongly an offhand comment is taken. Smilies might have helped. In this case, your comment really triggered me. I seldomly flame, but in

Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-26 Thread Ben Collins
On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 10:33:27PM -0800, Joseph Carter wrote: On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 07:09:34PM -0500, Kragen Sitaker wrote: If we must back out /var/mail (for no good technical reason that I can determine), then at the very least I think we should state that there that for all

Re: New logo strategy

1999-01-26 Thread Randy Edwards
I agree with James Treacy's observation that we will probably need two logos: one logo with a liberal license that people can just freely, and another, more restricted logo for things like official CD's and so. This seems like a logical solution. Having the official Debian logo could

Re: LSH (GPL'd SSH)

1999-01-26 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 12:50:52PM +0100, J.H.M. Dassen wrote: On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 16:49:57 -0500, Ben Collins wrote: NOTE: For those that are on the ball, they do seem to be considering removing idea from the base source and having it as a seperate module (similar to GnuPG's approach).

Re: New logo strategy

1999-01-26 Thread Jules Bean
On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Steve Greenland wrote: On 25-Jan-99, 19:06 (CST), Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with James Treacy's observation that we will probably need two logos: one logo with a liberal license that people can just freely, and another, more restricted logo for

Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-26 Thread Alan Cox
I'll give you one solid reason, uniformity across unix platforms is a must have if unix, especially free unices, are going to succesfully If we are in marketing mode let me point out we are not Unix in the first place and that C:\ is the standard I don't see a connection between

Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-26 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 07:19:20AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: marketing b/s boots on I'll give you one solid reason, uniformity across unix platforms is a must have if unix, especially free unices, are going to succesfully dominate the market. Sun/AIX/HP-UX/OSF/SCO are not going to change, but

Re: the Great X Reorganization, package splits, and renaming

1999-01-26 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 12:42:18PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: Upgrading a system from hamm to slink should make the system to be in the same state as if slink had been installed from scratch. Indeed. All of my systems have remnants of base and timezone remaining. (Actually I just discovered

Re: linux 2.2.0: System is 666kB

1999-01-26 Thread Peter Eades
Thanks for the binary but... when trying to boot with it the kernel uncompreses, gives the message booting kernel and then stops. My machine is a cyrex 686 200. Does the binary only work for intell chips? I noticed that specific suport for non intell chips is a feature of 2.2.0. I guess this means

Re: new snapshot

1999-01-26 Thread Rafael Laboissiere
[I am cross-posting this to debian-devel and to the plplot mailing lists.] Hi Geoffrey, Thanks for the announcement of this much awaited new snapshot of PLplot. Being the maintainer of both plplot and octave-plplot packages for Debian GNU/Linux, I would like to add some comments to your

libtool rpath

1999-01-26 Thread Hamish Moffatt
A package I maintain uses libtool. To remove the rpath stuff, I apply this patch to configure.in. Now lintian tells me that the executables have rpath set too! Is there an easy way to fix that? Also, because this package (geda) includes a library, debhelper is generating an shlibs file for it.

Re: New logo strategy

1999-01-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Steve Greenland wrote: 1. We have to agree on *two* logos :-). No, we have to agree on a *set* of logos: we simply request that each submission consists of two logos. Wichert. -- == This combination of

Re: libtool rpath

1999-01-26 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Hamish Moffatt wrote: A package I maintain uses libtool. To remove the rpath stuff, I apply this patch to configure.in. Now lintian tells me that the executables have rpath set too! Is there an easy way to fix that? Also, because this package (geda) includes a library,

Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-26 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 01:27:13PM +, Alan Cox wrote: I'll give you one solid reason, uniformity across unix platforms is a must have if unix, especially free unices, are going to succesfully If we are in marketing mode let me point out we are not Unix in the first place and that C:\

[HERT] ANNOUNCE: linux auditd daemon 1.10

1999-01-26 Thread Anthony C . Zboralski
Greetings, We have just released auditd version 1.10 for linux. Auditd is part of the linux kernel auditing toolkit. It will capture auditing trails created by the kernel auditĀ­ ing facility from /proc/audit, filter them, and save them in specific log files. For the moment,

Re: New logo strategy

1999-01-26 Thread Daniel Martin
Jules Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Steve Greenland wrote: On 25-Jan-99, 19:06 (CST), Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with James Treacy's observation that we will probably need two logos: one logo with a liberal license that people can just

Intend to package simulpic

1999-01-26 Thread Samuel Tardieu
Source: simulpic Section: otherosfs Priority: optional Maintainer: Samuel Tardieu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Standards-Version: 2.4.0.0 Package: simulpic Architecture: any Depends: ${shlibs:Depends} Description: Microchip PIC device simulator This software allows to simulate the execution of any program

Debian logo contest, step 2

1999-01-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman
I just got word back from Sven Riedel, the guy in charge of organizing gimp contests. He was happy with our request, and was willing to organize the whole thing. The contest will start in februari, after the current contest (dreams) ends. Details and submissions will be at the usual site:

FreeHow to check for free space in perl?

1999-01-26 Thread Eduardo Marcel Macan
I am trying to write a perl script that needs to make some calculation based on free space in several partitions. What's the best method for checking the free space in a file system using perl? Without using backticks and unix commands, is there any better mean to do it? -- Eduardo

Re: libtool rpath

1999-01-26 Thread Martin Mitchell
Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Hamish Moffatt wrote: an easy fix for that? Splitting the packages is a possibility, but libgeda is of absolutely no use on its own yet, and I don't think there is anything for a libgeda-dev. I have found this in the policy:

Re: New logo strategy

1999-01-26 Thread Jules Bean
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Daniel Martin wrote: If we are going to have a gimp.org done contest, I would like to see that the rules allow people to use things that are not gimp, but that are DFSG free software. I find the command-line pnm tools very useful in manipulating images, and it would be

Need a check for suid applications

1999-01-26 Thread Santiago Vila
reassign 28850 general thanks This bug is now fixed in gettext_0.10.35-7. However, somebody should check that every suid application in slink which is statically linked against gettext is recompiled with the new gettext. (Maybe doing gettextize -f -c). Thanks. --

Re: Debian logo contest, step 2

1999-01-26 Thread M.C. Vernon
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Wichert Akkerman wrote: I just got word back from Sven Riedel, the guy in charge of organizing gimp contests. He was happy with our request, and was willing to organize the whole thing. The contest will start in februari, after the current contest (dreams) ends. Details

Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-26 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Ted == Theodore Y Ts'o [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ted I keep hearing people claim that distribution folks are saying ick, Ted but I haven't heard any technical reasons besides, Moving spool Ted directories is hard. Fine. Here are a few. I, and a number of other sysadmins,

Re: Debian booth at linuxworld, volenteers wanted

1999-01-26 Thread Dale E. Martin
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, it's in San Jose California, March 1-4th. Thanks. Then I can't volunteer, although I frequently seem to find myself in San Jose :-) Later, Dale -- +- pgp key available --+ | Dale E. Martin |

Re: the Great X Reorganization, package splits, and renaming

1999-01-26 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 12:42:18PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: Can you *guarantee* that the package now called xfonts-base will *always* have the same functionality and will always be *identical* to the one called xfntbase in hamm? Can you *guarantee* that the package now called

Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-26 Thread Jakob 'sparky' Kaivo
This is getting WAY out of hand here. How about this: The mail spool MUST be accessible through /var/mail AND /var/spool/mail, and spool files MUST take the form /var/{spool/}mail/$LOGNAME. Either /var/mail or /var/spool/mail, or both, MAY be symbolic links to another directory. It is RECOMMENDED

Re: I'm a concerned about slink. specifically jdk1.1, idraw, and xaw-wrappers

1999-01-26 Thread Dale E. Martin
Guenter Geiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... and it is solved now :) Actually I have to say, if I would have been the one who was supposed to fix the bug, it would have taken me another hundred days, and probably I would have lost my last hair upon this ... But luckily, the upstream

Re: New logo strategy

1999-01-26 Thread Raul Miller
Jules Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whilst I have no objections to such a change in rules, I am baffled that anyone could prefer xpaint to gimp, even for drawing straight lines and ellipses. gimp won't run on smaller machines. Also, there's Rick Hohensee's caligraphic patch for (if I recall

Processed: Need a check for suid applications

1999-01-26 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: reassign 28850 general Bug#28850: gettext: security problem when used in setuid programs Bug reassigned from package `gettext, libc6' to `general'. thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. Ian Jackson

Way, way off-topic was: Re: Debian logo its license

1999-01-26 Thread John Hasler
Andrew writes: You've forgotten something. The military act as if they are above any laws. (If they cared about obeying laws, they would be disarming nuclear weapons under their international treaty obligations) On the contrary. The military, at least in the US and the UK, act in

What's needed for kernel 2.2

1999-01-26 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Will some guru tell us what critical packages we need to update in order to use 2.2 ? kerneld is replaced by something else, etc. I guess that if I'm asking that means I should wait for a proper Debian upgrade. Or does kernel-image-2.2.0-i686_2.2.0-1_i386.deb have all the dependencies sorted

Re: New logo strategy

1999-01-26 Thread Darren Benham
On 26-Jan-99 Randy Edwards wrote: One question I had was out of the two options you list above, which category do you see our present logo falling into: the liberal license or the official logo? Or would this new logo contest be used to choose logos for both categories? Because of the

Re: Why /var/www? (Was: Where does 'www-data' come from?)

1999-01-26 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:23:34 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: /home/(ftp|www) is just plain ugly. (It's a real pain when you're trying to share nfs home dirs between web servers, for example.) I use /var/ftp on my own system (well, actually

Licenses for non-software works, and the definition of software, and , the new DFSG

1999-01-26 Thread Jules Bean
Hi, In response to an issue on -legal, I am reopening the debate on how free those parts of debian which are not software (or not precisely software) should be. IMO, this debate should be conducted on -policy, and I ask all replies to this message to trim the CC: line. This issue was discussed

Re: Way, way off-topic was: Re: Debian logo its license

1999-01-26 Thread Joseph Carter
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 10:33:30AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: You've forgotten something. The military act as if they are above any laws. (If they cared about obeying laws, they would be disarming nuclear weapons under their international treaty obligations) On the contrary. The

Re: What's needed for kernel 2.2

1999-01-26 Thread Remco van de Meent
Peter S Galbraith wrote: Will some guru tell us what critical packages we need to update in order to use 2.2 ? I'm not a guru I guess, but I can cutpaste something from linux/Documentation/Changes: - Kernel modules 2.1.121 ; insmod -V - Gnu C 2.7.2.3

Re: the Great X Reorganization, package splits, and renaming

1999-01-26 Thread Santiago Vila
Branden Robinson: [...] Only now do you seem to be concerned. No, this has been a frequently asked question for some time in debian-user. I should probably add it to the Debian FAQ. Please, note that I'm not blaming you for not having thought about this problem *in advance*. I just want to see

Re: What's needed for kernel 2.2

1999-01-26 Thread Remco van de Meent
Peter S Galbraith wrote: modutils, gcc, binutils, libc5, libc6, ldso, procps, sysutils, psmisc, hostname, loadlin, shellutils, autofs, nfs-server, bash, ncpfs, pcmcia-cs, ppp, util-linux. If you get the versions of these packages that are in the currently frozen Debian distribution

Re: the Great X Reorganization, package splits, and renaming

1999-01-26 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Branden Robinson wrote: I reiterate my challenge. Demonstrate to me a manner in which a hamm system upgraded to slink, which keeps the old X font and static library packages, will be broken. I hope you will agree that sometimes we have to think about the future. With

Intent to package: pcd2html

1999-01-26 Thread Andreas Tille
Hello I would like to package my self written script system pcd2html which creates commented HTML pages from a Kodak Photo CD using user supplied options for convert from ImageMagick and describing text. Informations are available at

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