Re: Release Plans (1999-05-10)

1999-05-11 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull
I'm sorry about the tone, but I'm getting very sick of repeating myself over and over. On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 08:26:19PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: snip I've been working with the previous perl5.005 package (the one that had been uploaded to slink and retracted after) and I did not have

kernel packages skeleton

1999-05-11 Thread Wichert Akkerman
I've finally gotten around to making a simple skeleton for packaging kernel modules. When I have some more free time I'll expand it a bit and write some documentation to go with it. Oh, and I might test it since it's currently completely untested :). Anyway, for the interested the files are at

Re: kernel packages skeleton

1999-05-11 Thread Joey Hess
Wichert Akkerman wrote: I've finally gotten around to making a simple skeleton for packaging kernel modules. When I have some more free time I'll expand it a bit and write some documentation to go with it. Oh, and I might test it since it's currently completely untested :). Anyway, for the

Re: User-selected window-manager in an easy way

1999-05-11 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote: ssh-add is already started from /etc/X11/Xsession, if you have ssh installed. Other than that, you're right, of course. Actually ssh-agent is started. I was thinking of some simple, global solution, available from the menu. I suspect that simple and

Re: Current problems with libc6_2.1.1-2

1999-05-11 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, 10 May 1999, Branden Robinson wrote: On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 09:58:16AM -0400, Collins M. Ben wrote: glibc 2.1+ in potato is going to require a 2.2 kernel so this wont help. To be honest I am not sure how you passed the preinst phase since it should fail to even unpack the glibc

Re: install report for Debian 2.1 and some comments on installation profiles

1999-05-11 Thread Martin Bialasinski
EZ == Enrique Zanardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: EZ with its changelog, control file, rules file and so on...). That EZ may probably be fixed by implementing a debhelper tool just for EZ building metapackages. This is exactly the thing the equivs package will do. Ciao, Martin

Re: Freeze stuff, summary.. (perl 5.005, etc)

1999-05-11 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
Adam It wouldn't hurt but I don't think it's necessary. glibc2.1 can Adam drop-in replace 2.0 (unless you have a program that depends on Adam certain internal stuff which it shouldn't be using anyway). Octave doesn't depend on internal stuff, but still fails when a glibc2.0 compiled

Re: install report for Debian 2.1 and some comments on installation profiles

1999-05-11 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Martin Bialasinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is exactly the thing the equivs package will do. Does equivs implement this through skullduggery, or does it make nice metapackages which play nice? -- .Adam Di [EMAIL PROTECTED]URL:http://www.onShore.com/

Re: install report for Debian 2.1 and some comments on installation profiles

1999-05-11 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Enrique Zanardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Voila. Elegant, uses the existing packaging system (i.e., no need to skip the select step in dselect), This is the main point against your approach. We introduced the tasks and profiles to avoid going through the list of 3000 packages in dselect.

Re: install report for Debian 2.1 and some comments on installation profiles

1999-05-11 Thread Martin Bialasinski
ADC == Adam Di Carlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ADC Martin Bialasinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is exactly the thing the equivs package will do. ADC Does equivs implement this through skullduggery, or does it make ADC nice metapackages which play nice? Well, It could be extended, but I

A setuid bash doesn't give up root.

1999-05-11 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
I've discovered something interesting. # cp /bin/bash /tmp # chmod u+s /tmp/bash $ /tmp/bash $ whoami karlheg # cp /usr/bin/zsh /tmp # chmod u+s /tmp/zsh $ /tmp/zsh # whoami root Perhaps we should have a policy that says all of our shells should follow the Bash behaviour?

Re: A setuid bash doesn't give up root.

1999-05-11 Thread Ben Gertzfield
Karl == Karl M Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Karl Perhaps we should have a policy that says all of our shells Karl should follow the Bash behaviour? This would help a *tiny* bit, but there are many many programs other than shells that will wreak havoc if they're made set-uid.

Re: Perl 5.005 stability

1999-05-11 Thread Chip Salzenberg
According to Aaron Van Couwenberghe: On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 08:14:24PM -0700, Jim Lynch wrote: This means that upgrading perl (whenever it is done) will need the same degree of care applied as for dpkg, dselect, boot-floppies, debian-cd and all other essential parts of debian

Re: Perl 5.005 features

1999-05-11 Thread Chip Salzenberg
According to Michael Stone: The only thing [new in Perl 5.005] I've heard so far is threading, which AFAIK is too unstable to be in stable. Agreed about threading. But the list of New Stuff also includes: * References as thrown exceptions ('die $object', '[EMAIL PROTECTED]method') *

cdgrab on hold? read this (Re: Intent To Package: cd-discid)

1999-05-11 Thread Robert Woodcock
On Fri, May 07, 1999 at 09:06:27PM -0700, Robert Woodcock wrote: Hmmm, now that I've uploaded cd-discid I guess I better write an intent to package for it :) cd-discid has long been bundled in cdgrab, but since cdgrab changes so much more quickly, and is a simple shell script, the other

Intent to package t-gnus

1999-05-11 Thread Takuro KITAME
Hi,I'm packaging software, t-gnus. (ftp://ftp.jaist.ac.jp/GNU/elisp/chamonix/gnus/) t-gnus is latest branch of Semi-gnus. Semi-gnus is Replacement of Gnus with gnus-mime for SEMI. and Debian package is available. (main/news). SEMI is Library to provide MIME feature for GNU Emacs. Debian package

Re: Homapages in list of maintainers

1999-05-11 Thread Atsuhito Kohda
From: Adam Di Carlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Homapages in list of maintainers Date: 10 May 1999 15:02:11 -0400 Yes, well, it takes from 4 weeks to 6 months or longer for *all* people. I agree this should be shorter... Anyhow Debian-JP is *not* getting singled out. Everyone has this

Re: Homapages in list of maintainers

1999-05-11 Thread Atsuhito Kohda
From: John Lapeyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Homapages in list of maintainers Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:26:29 -0700 I think it would be great for Debian JP and Debian to find someone in Japan who can do interviews in Japan and report to the new-maintainer people in Debian proper (in

Re: Release Plans (1999-05-10)

1999-05-11 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Mon, May 10, 1999 at 07:12:55PM -0400, Zephaniah E. Hull écrivait: I highly question your ability to fill this role as it is quite clear that you have not been following the perl5.005 stuff, specificly the debian-perl list and the massages on -devel before -perl existed about how to attack

Re: Pandora is born

1999-05-11 Thread Heiko Schlittermann
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 03:33:54PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: : Um, non-us has been terribly broken since BEFORE I was a developer. In : fact, it was broken when I first installed Bo a year and a half ago. : : And the biggest rub of all has been that the archive maintainers couldn't : do

Re: Intent to package t-gnus

1999-05-11 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Takuro KITAME [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi,I'm packaging software, t-gnus. (ftp://ftp.jaist.ac.jp/GNU/elisp/chamonix/gnus/) t-gnus is latest branch of Semi-gnus. Semi-gnus is Replacement of Gnus with gnus-mime for SEMI. and Debian package is available. (main/news). SEMI is Library to

Re: Homapages in list of maintainers

1999-05-11 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Atsuhito Kohda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Adam Di Carlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is no requirement that I know of that any identification must be written in English. It is practically very important to know what is acceptable and what is not as identification. Does this mean Japanese

Re: RFC: debhelper v2

1999-05-11 Thread dirson
About debian/tmp and friends: something I'd like would be to run make install on some dir like debian/INSTALL/, and have dh_movefiles take files from this one. This would provide greater consistency between binary packages (get rid of this concept of main package), and simplify things when

Re: Pandora is born

1999-05-11 Thread Christian T. Steigies
Hi, several of my uploads to non-us have been processed last night. Now I have only one question, were have the uploads landed? I mean, I am very happy that I got confirmation messages, but now I have REJECTED: Rejected: gnupg_0.9.5-1_m68k.deb: Old version 9.5-1' = new version 9.5-1'. but I cant

Here's my .xsession (was Re: User-selected window-manager in an easy way)

1999-05-11 Thread jim
Here's my .xsession... it assumes the window manager is not the session controller, and something else is (but that can be changed pretty easily) --- file: .xsession --- #!/bin/bash # # logout button .xsession allowing fav window mgr by Jim Lynch # # This .xsession prepares for gnome by having

Re: Release Plans (1999-05-10)

1999-05-11 Thread Chris Lawrence
On May 10, Hartmut Koptein wrote: There's also another thing that need to be worked on, the CDs. The script creating the images is not smart enough to select just the good number of packages for each CDs. Currently, the two binary CDs can still be generated for potato but not the source

Re: Homapages in list of maintainers

1999-05-11 Thread Keita Maehara
At Mon, 10 May 1999 13:26:29 -0700, John Lapeyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, I want to see ruby packaged ! I hear that it is already packaged for Debian JP. I ran the fibonacci test in the source and it really beat perl badly. I even improved the perl version and ruby

Re: Release Plans (1999-05-10)

1999-05-11 Thread Hartmut Koptein
For m68k-mac and powermac we need 'hybrid' cd-images (msdos + hfs). slink-cd makes HFS hybrid CDs for m68k already; I'm pretty sure I asked Steve to use the HFS options for PowerPC too (so the code's already there...) Great! One point i can strike off from my todo list. Thanks.

Re: Wish to orphan or kill: dbuild; Or: Is it of any actual use?

1999-05-11 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Tue, May 11, 1999 at 11:06:22AM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote: My nightly dbuild cron job has started to fail. I haven't had time to investigate why, and before I allocate the time, I'd like to offer the package for someone else to maintain and run. I don't have the time to do a good job on

Re: Install-time byte-compiling: Why bother?

1999-05-11 Thread Martin Mitchell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Chris Waters writes: I *strongly* oppose eliminating it, and I'm not real big on the idea of making the default be off. Installing new packages takes a while, I don't mind a few extra moments there. I *do* mind run-time delays, even if they're small,

Re: Wish to orphan or kill: dbuild; Or: Is it of any actual use?

1999-05-11 Thread Roman Hodek
does buildd have a package ? Not yet. James is working on it, but it's not trivial and may take some time (and James and James2 are constantly low on spare time :-) can it be used interactively, and not as a demon ? Yes and no :-) buildd itself is non-interactive, of course, but it uses a

Uploaded new package: yada

1999-05-11 Thread Charles Briscoe-Smith
I've now uploaded a packaged version of YADA, the packaging helper which I RFCed you about a couple of weeks ago, and which surprisingly (to me, anyway) got a mention in Debian Weekly News. Woo! Lots of random thoughts follow. Let me know if you have comments. If you're willing for the

Help Wanted

1999-05-11 Thread Nils Lohner
As many of you know, I'm currently the Debian Press Contact. Unfortunately, I've had less and less time to work on press and publicity related issues lately as other things (SPI work and 'real work') have come to to the forefront, as well as a move next month. I'm looking for help in

request for package

1999-05-11 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Can someone please package plib, which is Steve's Portable Game Library. It has a LGPL license so it can go into main without problem. The reason I want this is so I can try `Tuxedo T. Penguin, A Quest for Herring' (http://www.woodsoup.org/projs/tux_aqfh/). If someone can package that as well

a Chinese version of X-window system for Linux available

1999-05-11 Thread liug
Dear Sir, I am not sure whether this is the right place to post this mail. We have developed a Chinese version of X-window system several years ago, and now we have developed one for Linux, It is fully compatible with X11R6, including a Chinese IME(Input Method Editor). This Chinese version can

Here's a diff to my .xsession (was Re: Here's my .xsession)

1999-05-11 Thread jim
Hi, already found a problem: comment lines in /etc/X11/window-managers that match the chosen favorite window manager cause the script to fail weirdly... Problem reported by [EMAIL PROTECTED] this patch filters comment lines first. (Note to Branden: you might want to use this logic, or something

Intent to package: ezbounce

1999-05-11 Thread Tommi Virtanen
I will package ezbounce (http://druglord.freelsd.org/ezbounce/) - an irc proxy that lets you detach from your session and reattach later. It's GPL. ETA today. -- Havoc Consulting | unix, linux, perl, mail, www, internet, security consulting +358 50 5486010 |

Re: Homapages in list of maintainers

1999-05-11 Thread Fumitoshi UKAI
At Mon, 10 May 1999 13:26:29 -0700, John Lapeyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it would be great for Debian JP and Debian to find someone in Japan who can do interviews in Japan and report to the new-maintainer people in Debian proper (in Europe or U.S.) That is to say, it would be

xterm warning

1999-05-11 Thread Wichert Akkerman
If you are following unstable and are using PAM, and more specifically the pam-apps package. I highly suggest that you do not upgrade to xterm 3.3.3.1-3. I repeat: do NOT upgrade to xterm 3.3.3.1-3 if you use pam-apps. The problem is that there is a rather annoying bug in the Unix98 pty support

Intent to package ada-mode

1999-05-11 Thread Samuel Tardieu
Source: ada-mode Maintainer: Samuel Tardieu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Section: editors Priority: optional Standards-Version: 2.5.1.0 Package: ada-mode Architecture: all Depends: emacsen Suggests: gnat Description: Ada mode for Emacs and XEmacs This is a major mode for editing Ada files in Emacs/XEmacs.

Re: Freeze stuff, summary.. (perl 5.005, etc)

1999-05-11 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Adam Di Carlo wrote: Oscar Levi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been distracted by revenue production for a couple of months. Are we expected to upload our packages rebuilt for glibc2.1? It wouldn't hurt but I don't think it's necessary. glibc2.1 can drop-in replace 2.0 (unless you

Re: request for package

1999-05-11 Thread Mitch Blevins
In foo.debian-devel, Wichert wrote: Can someone please package plib, which is Steve's Portable Game Library. It has a LGPL license so it can go into main without problem. The reason I want this is so I can try `Tuxedo T. Penguin, A Quest for Herring'

Re: Here's a diff to my .xsession (was Re: Here's my .xsession)

1999-05-11 Thread Chris Waters
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, already found a problem: comment lines in /etc/X11/window-managers that match the chosen favorite window manager cause the script to fail weirdly... Problem reported by [EMAIL PROTECTED] this patch filters comment lines first. (Note to Branden: you might want

Re: KDE debian stuff

1999-05-11 Thread Sergey V Kovalyov
On Mon, 10 May 1999, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: So if you have beefs with how kde is currently being done from a debian package standpoint and would like to see them done differently please let me know. Here is a current list of things that people have already stated needed to be changed

Re: KDE debian stuff

1999-05-11 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
Quoting Sergey V Kovalyov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I wonder, is it only me and a screwed potato on my test computer or other people as well have problems with kde 1.1.1 ? The symptoms are at least: - can't run kappfinder: dies with $(install_root)/usr/share/applink file not found - Mime

Intent to package ogonkify

1999-05-11 Thread Piotr Roszatycki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Source: ogonkify Section: text Priority: extra Description: Package for printing ISO-Latin-2 on PostScript printers Upstream-source: URL:ftp://ftp.dcs.ed.ac.uk/pub/jec/programs/ Home-Page: URL:http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/home/jec/ogonkify/ Copyright: GPL

Re: Intent to package ogonkify

1999-05-11 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, May 11, 1999 at 10:56:34PM +0200, Piotr Roszatycki wrote: Description: Package for printing ISO-Latin-2 on PostScript printers This is already part of the a2ps package. Are you coordinating with the maintainter of that package? Mike Stone pgp4ABRu59oOQ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: request for package

1999-05-11 Thread Bart Warmerdam
On Tue, May 11, 1999 at 01:41:25PM -0400, Mitch Blevins wrote: In foo.debian-devel, Wichert wrote: Can someone please package plib, which is Steve's Portable Game Library. It has a LGPL license so it can go into main without problem. The reason I want this is so I can try `Tuxedo T.

Re: request for package

1999-05-11 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Mitch Blevins wrote: I can't resolve that domain. Are you sure of the URL? Yes, but the DNS seems to be down now. Be patient :) Wichert. -- == This combination of bytes forms a message written to you by

Re: Debian coding style?

1999-05-11 Thread John Goerzen
I say that the coding style ought to be as follows: * Everyone ought to write code such that indentation and placement of block elements on code are such that the ability of others to read the code is maximized. Additionally, I should mention that the below guidelines are very

Re: Release Plans (1999-05-10)

1999-05-11 Thread Steve McIntyre
Raphael Hertzog writes: There's also another thing that need to be worked on, the CDs. The script creating the images is not smart enough to select just the good number of packages for each CDs. Agreed. Help on this aspect gratefully received... Currently, the two binary CDs can still be

Re: Release Plans (1999-05-10)

1999-05-11 Thread Steve McIntyre
Chris Lawrence writes: slink-cd makes HFS hybrid CDs for m68k already; I'm pretty sure I asked Steve to use the HFS options for PowerPC too (so the code's already there...) Yep, you're correct. -- Steve McIntyre, CURS CCE, Cambridge, UK. [EMAIL PROTECTED] a

Re: Release Plans (1999-05-10)

1999-05-11 Thread Steve McIntyre
Adam Di Carlo writes: Debian-CD has a number of problems that need fixing; see the Bugs against the package. Join debian-cd to help. That would be useful. I _am_ working on things when I get a chance, even if I have been a little quiet of late. Are we going to go ahead and try out my new

Re: Homapages in list of maintainers

1999-05-11 Thread Atsuhito Kohda
From: Fumitoshi UKAI [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Homapages in list of maintainers Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 01:23:21 +0900 I think it would be great for Debian JP and Debian to find someone in Japan who can do interviews in Japan and report to the new-maintainer people in Debian proper