Re: GPG trusted signatures, dpkg-buildpackage gpg

1999-09-16 Thread Philip Hands
Joe Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: gpg: Signature made Wed Sep 15 12:08:31 1999 EDT using DSA key ID 2FA3BC2D gpg: Good signature from Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature! gpg: There is no indication that the signature

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-16 Thread Steve Lamb
Wednesday, September 15, 1999, 3:56:02 PM, Richard wrote: Did you *ever* even *attempt* to read the FHS? It took me less time for me to find this than it did for you to whine about not having a specific cite. Did anyone else who were quoting from it? All of them did the same thing I did,

Metapackages (was Re: Debian Weekly News - September 14th, 1999)

1999-09-16 Thread Laurent Martelli
JH == Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JH * The long awaited redesign of the installation profiles has JH begun. Now there are metapackages; packages that depend on a JH group of packages that relate to a common activity, like playing JH games or developing C programs. Martin

Re: Increasing regularity of build systems

1999-09-16 Thread David Welton
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 10:30:18PM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 01:08:22PM -0500, David Welton wrote: I think that as many packages as reasonably possible should migrate towards them. They work pretty well, but I don't believe in forcing them on people if

Re: w only giving `-' as the FROM field

1999-09-16 Thread Herbert Xu
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben Gertzfield wrote: Chris == Chris Rutter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Chris For months now, `w' has only reported `-' (well, *almost* Chris all the time, anyway) in the FROM field for any connections Chris made through `telnetd'. Finally,

Re: Metapackages (was Re: Debian Weekly News - September 14th, 1999)

1999-09-16 Thread Germano Leichsenring
Actually about these metapackages, what about having a new field in the /var/lib/dpkg/info/available file, the Keywords: field? The keywords would be predefined, and it would be _much_ easier to find a package... now, if I don't know the name of a package, I have to grep through the available

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-16 Thread Joseph Carter
On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 03:13:19PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: To help give another example of settings, here's what I have in my ~/.gnupg/options: # Screw PGP, let's be RFC compatible = openpgp [.. snip snip ..] ## Other fun options

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-16 Thread Joseph Carter
On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 12:14:42AM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: 8) Participants of 'signing parties' are encouraged to use OpenPGP keys (remember that a PGP 2.x key cannot be signed by an OpenPGP key [AFIAK]) I've got PGP keys with GPG sigs on them... Granted PGP can't even see

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-16 Thread Julian Gilbey
That higher level of confidence would be misplaced if I'd simply mailed my key to all my old PGP signers, and they'd signed it. Sorry, I don't get this. Why is it a problem if one of my old signers signs my new key if I send it to them in a mail signed by my old key? Lots of others have

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-16 Thread Joseph Carter
On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 03:38:34PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: I signed my DSS key with the old RSA key and then asked people who signed the old key to sign the new one with their DSS key. This is easy and secure. Not if you didn't ask in person... -- Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: man preprocessor different than on Red Hat?

1999-09-16 Thread Guy Maor
Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul Slootman wrote: What happens if you pass the -pt option to man? $ man -pt -l ./powstatd.8 Then it works. From man(1): The filters are deciphered by a number of means. Firstly, the command line option -p or the

debian O'Reilly book cover is up

1999-09-16 Thread Joey Hess
http://www.ora.com/catalog/debian/ I just noticed this page has a book cover for forthcoming Learning Debian GNU/Linux book from O'Reilly. What do people think about the art? Looks like that guy has climed onto a bucking bull -- or is it a GNU? -- and is about to ditch his hat. All good things.

Re: history (Was Re: Corel/Debian Linux Installer)

1999-09-16 Thread Jonathan Walther
With Debian distributions, and small disks, I have found this to always be sufficient: / 32M /var 96M swap 32M or more. /usr all the rest /home is a symlink to /usr/home /tmp is a symlink to /var/tmp For more than 150 megs of disk space, I have found this the best way of partitioning.

Re: debian O'Reilly book cover is up

1999-09-16 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 07:36:19PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: What do people think about the art? Pretty nice. The more important question is, who's preordering? :) -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main

Re: Metapackages (was Re: Debian Weekly News - September 14th, 1999)

1999-09-16 Thread Joe Drew
On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 09:27:25AM +0900, Germano Leichsenring wrote: Actually about these metapackages, what about having a new field in the /var/lib/dpkg/info/available file, the Keywords: field? The keywords would be predefined, and it would be _much_ easier to find a package... now, if I

Looking for help with ftp archive

1999-09-16 Thread Guy Maor
Hi, we're looking for somebody to help us with ftp maintainance by processing new packages from incoming. The procedure is basically this: You get a daily email report of new packages in Incoming. You run lintian on them and check for egregious errors, read the copyright file to see if

Re: Bug o' the week

1999-09-16 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 09:04:52PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously David Welton wrote: Sounds like an interesting idea - are you going to come up with some code to demonstrate how things work? If people really want this I guess I could trivially add it to bugscan. It already scans

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-16 Thread Joel Klecker
At 10:55 -0400 1999-09-15, Chris Fearnley wrote: How does one generate an RSA key using the gpg-rsaref package? Why on earth would you want to do that? -- Joel Klecker (aka Espy)Debian GNU/Linux Developer URL:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

aterm packages ?

1999-09-16 Thread Joseph Carter
Didn't somebody ITP aterm? What's the status on that? -- Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux developer GnuPG: 2048g/3F9C2A43 - 20F6 2261 F185 7A3E 79FC 44F9 8FF7 D7A3 DCF9 DAB3 PGP 2.6: 2048R/50BDA0ED - E8 D6 84 81 E3 A8 BB 77 8E E2 29 96 C9 44 5F BE

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-16 Thread Steve Greenland
Good god, Jon is even reading Tom Christianson wrong. Tom said to integrate responses after the quoted text, whether in whole or in part, so that it reads like a conversation. And since Jon is such a big fan of announcing his additions to his kill file (like anybody else really gives a shit)

Re: switching from PGP to GNUPG -- HOWTO?

1999-09-16 Thread Joseph Carter
On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 10:45:57AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure this has been asked before but after a quick run through the subjects I wasn't able to find anything in the list archives regarding this issue. Sorry if this is a FAQ. It is, yes.. = Can someone please let me know

Debugging X libraries

1999-09-16 Thread Greg Stark
There are no packages that have shared X11 libraries built with debugging symbols, are there? I wouldn't want to ask such a thing of the maintainer, there are enough complexities in the X packages as it is, but nobody would happen to have such an libX11.so for libc5 would they? -- greg

Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-16 Thread Joey Hess
I've been thinking about this for a while, but it always seemed like a crazy idea. But it seems other people were thinking about it too, and others like the idea, so I had better post about it. Wouldn't it be great if all the debian developers could be flown in to a convention site, get to meet

Re: debian O'Reilly book cover is up

1999-09-16 Thread Steve Dunham
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.ora.com/catalog/debian/ I just noticed this page has a book cover for forthcoming Learning Debian GNU/Linux book from O'Reilly. What do people think about the art? Looks like that guy has climed onto a bucking bull -- or is it a GNU? -- and is

Re: debian O'Reilly book cover is up

1999-09-16 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Dunham wrote: All of their Linux books use a rodeo/cowboy theme rather than the traditional animal theme. I have no idea why. I kinda prefer the animals, but maybe they were running out? Well I always though it was supposed to be some linux == wild west analogy. -- see shy jo

Re: history (Was Re: Corel/Debian Linux Installer)

1999-09-16 Thread Steve Dunham
Jonathan Walther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: With Debian distributions, and small disks, I have found this to always be sufficient: / 32M /var 96M swap 32M or more. /usr all the rest /home is a symlink to /usr/home /tmp is a symlink to /var/tmp So what happens to the stuff in

Re: aterm packages ?

1999-09-16 Thread Hugo Haas
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999, Joseph Carter wrote: Didn't somebody ITP aterm? What's the status on that? Samuel Hocevar [EMAIL PROTECTED] did package aterm (after sending an ITP). He asked me to upload his package since he is not a maintainer yet. However, there were a couple of problems so I did not

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-16 Thread Joseph Carter
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 10:05:52PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: Is this idea worth pursuing? If you're crazy enough to pursue it, I'd be crazy enough to go to it. I'm almost positive my instructors would all believe it's a very good thing and be happy to give me assignments ahead of time or whatnot

Re: aterm packages ?

1999-09-16 Thread Joseph Carter
On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 01:19:24AM -0400, Hugo Haas wrote: Didn't somebody ITP aterm? What's the status on that? Samuel Hocevar [EMAIL PROTECTED] did package aterm (after sending an ITP). He asked me to upload his package since he is not a maintainer yet. However, there were a couple

Intent to create freedraft2D

1999-09-16 Thread Michael Westermann
Hallo, im an c-developer an use Debian two years. I want build the freeedraft2D package. Michael Westermann [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-16 Thread Steve Greenland
On 16-Sep-99, 00:05 (CDT), Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Preferably somewhere with a high density of debian developers. The California Bay Area (20 some developers with many more nearby) and the Netherlands come to mind. We'd need a map of

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-16 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Greenland wrote: I'm figuring around $700 per developer, for plane fare and lodging. That seems low, but if you've actually looked up some prices, I won't argue. I haven't, what's your guestimate? Something you might consider is that colleges and

Re: [Crackmonkey] Re: [David_Conrad@isc.org: Re: FWD: [David_Conrad@isc.org: Re: Bind 8.2 and greater license?]]

1999-09-16 Thread Richard Stallman
So, while DSA is an unpatented algorithm, the implementation in BIND is not free software any more than the implementation of RSA in BIND is free software. You are right. Free software must not have a license that requires people to obey any country's export controls. It seems

your note about DNS and Debian on LWN

1999-09-16 Thread Bdale Garbee
Hi John. I just read your LWN backpage letter, http://lwn.net/1999/0916/backpage.phtml. I'm the Debian BIND package maintainer. I am aware of no intention on the part of Debian to undermine the goal of a public key infrastructure centered on DNS. We simply cannot ship the RSA code in our

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-16 Thread Peter Makholm
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wouldn't it be great if all the debian developers could be flown in to a convention site, get to meet each other, really tighten up the gpg web of Great idea. And I will attend if my bank let me do it. Orelse I should just begin to attend some of the

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-16 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 04:30:30PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: * Sven LUTHER said: How do you know I don't do just that, via symlinks? I bet you'd never have guessed I have /usr/src/linux symlinked to /sys OK, now argue it as a standard for everyone as /opt is.

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-16 Thread Martin Schulze
James Troup wrote: Eh, calm down, Joey. I not only can, but should and have decided that GnuPG keys must be verified before they enter the keyring, i.e. I'm not going to add a random key from a random developer without proof it comes from that developer. I'll hope you'll be so kind as to

Re: Metapackages (was Re: Debian Weekly News - September 14th, 1999)

1999-09-16 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thursday 16 September 1999, at 2 h 3, the keyboard of Laurent Martelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: very nice, but how will uninstallation be handled ? Will you be able to uninstall all the packages of a metapackage in one step ? Certainly not: - a package can be a member of several

Re: history (Was Re: Corel/Debian Linux Installer)

1999-09-16 Thread Chris Rutter
On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Jonathan Walther wrote: drives. But given they are in such a vast minority, the current scheme of providing sensible defaults and popping the installer into a tool for creating your own arbitrary partition scheme is really the best. (at least, Im ASSUMING we do that the

building kernel 2.0.x under potato

1999-09-16 Thread John Lapeyre
Is it possible to build 2.0.x kernels under a reasonable potato build environment ? I tried make CC=gcc272, but I still get failures from the assembler, I think. The 2.2.x kernels are unstable in some situations. With my AMD K6-2, I get a lockup when tarring a big tree. The 2.0.x

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-16 Thread Chris Rutter
On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Joey Hess wrote: Wouldn't it be great if all the debian developers could be flown in to a convention site, get to meet each other, really tighten up the gpg web of trust, attend talks by developers, discuss important issues in person, and so on? It would really make us

Re: Debian Weekly News - September 14th, 1999

1999-09-16 Thread Stephen Zander
Joey == Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Joey Should Debian move to GRUB as our [15]default boot loader? Joey After all, since GRUB is used by the Hurd, this would Joey standardize the boot system used for Debian Linux and Debian Joey Hurd. Just a passing observation: you

Re: debian O'Reilly book cover is up

1999-09-16 Thread Chris Rutter
On 16 Sep 1999, Steve Dunham wrote: All of their Linux books use a rodeo/cowboy theme rather than the traditional animal theme. I have no idea why. I kinda prefer the animals, but maybe they were running out? Last time I asked I got some mutter about `brand pollution' or something.

Re: Metapackages (was Re: Debian Weekly News - September 14th, 1999)

1999-09-16 Thread Germano Leichsenring
Joe Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Joe How is this different from metapackages? After all, all you have Joe to do is look at the metapackage's dependencies itself to see Joe what it gives you. At the beginning they're not much different; if you consider the metapackages implementation is

Re: building kernel 2.0.x under potato

1999-09-16 Thread Chris Rutter
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, John Lapeyre wrote: Is it possible to build 2.0.x kernels under a reasonable potato build environment ? I tried make CC=gcc272, but I still get failures from the assembler, I think. Erm, yeah, I had no problems as I remember. Just apply the patches mentioned at

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-16 Thread KELEMEN Peter
On Thu, 1999-09-16 00:38:35 -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: On the one hand, it's usually cheaper for someone in the US to fly to Europe than the reverse. On the other hand, internal Europe flights tend to be much more expensive than internal US flights. On the gripping hand, trains in Europe

Re: Strange mail from Anders Arnholm (was Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...]))

1999-09-16 Thread Paul Slootman
On Wed 15 Sep 1999, Philip Hands wrote: Is anyone else seeing all this header drivel in everything that Anders mails, or have I got something in my gnus setup totally screwed ? The scattering of CR's in the Subject seem somewhat suspicious to me. Actually, I can't find any Subject in the

Re: building kernel 2.0.x under potato

1999-09-16 Thread John Lapeyre
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Chris Rutter wrote: chrisOn Thu, 16 Sep 1999, John Lapeyre wrote: chris chrisIs it possible to build 2.0.x kernels under a reasonable chris potato build environment ? I tried make CC=gcc272, but chris I still get failures from the assembler, I think. chris chrisErm,

Re: building kernel 2.0.x under potato

1999-09-16 Thread Chris Rutter
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, John Lapeyre wrote: The link to suse doesn't work at the moment, but I'll give it a try. The blurb at cygnus does not look encouraging. I think it is claiming that I have to to change asm constructs at various unspecified places in the source. Nah, they're just

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-16 Thread Martin Schulze
Jason Gunthorpe wrote: All it means is that GPG should be used in a mode where it will not interoperate with PGP 2.x. This is what Joey's HOWTO recommended more or less. So correct it. You seem to want to give it away rather strongly, so I'd be happy to pick it up and add a few

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-16 Thread Peter Makholm
Chris Rutter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Problem is there ain't an `average developer' in terms of location, as far as I can see -- they're all over the place. ;-) I'd certainly rather somewhere Scandinavian, probably -- it's nice, clean, historic, etc. -- and closer to home. I'd like to have

Re: building kernel 2.0.x under potato

1999-09-16 Thread John Lapeyre
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Chris Rutter wrote: chrisOn Thu, 16 Sep 1999, John Lapeyre wrote: chris chrisThe link to suse doesn't work at the moment, but I'll give it a try. chris The blurb at cygnus does not look encouraging. I think it is claiming chris that I have to to change asm constructs

Re: Metapackages (was Re: Debian Weekly News - September 14th, 1999)

1999-09-16 Thread Martin Bialasinski
* Laurent == Laurent Martelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Laurent Being able to select several packages by selecting a Laurent metapackage is very nice, but how will uninstallation be Laurent handled ? Will you be able to uninstall all the packages of a Laurent metapackage in one step ? * Stephane

Re: [New maintainer] Working for Debian and becoming a registered Debian developer

1999-09-16 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Fri, Jul 23, 1999 at 01:13:55PM -0500, Justin N. Penney écrivait: [woa, that's old ... ] Just let me know how you want me to send them to you. Please use the form here : http://www.internatif.org/bortzmeyer/debian/sponsor/ Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog -=- http://tux.u-strasbg.fr/~raphael/

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-16 Thread Marek Habersack
* Steve Lamb said: Wednesday, September 15, 1999, 12:29:30 PM, Anders wrote: Then can you tell me how your three steps are easyer and faster them our one step? How are you going to get the data on to the drive without a minimum installation on it in the first place? Geez (that's your

Re: Strange mail from Anders Arnholm (was Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...]))

1999-09-16 Thread Anders Arnholm
Paul Slootman wrote: especially strange there (besides the fact that he uses X-Face, which I thought had died out :-) I must have misse the first mail, and I have never seen amy problem exect that my filters for repying on some QP mails sometimes gets wrong and add nice looking Swedish chars

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-16 Thread Marek Habersack
* Sven LUTHER said: taken over by most linux distribs these days. on my sun, i have a /opt but no /usr/local for example. Correct. Linux distros are generally a mixture of SystemV and BSD standards - see the bootup init methods, for one. /opt is a good thing from the SV world,

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-16 Thread Marek Habersack
* Steve Lamb said: or /usr/opt, you are implicitly violating the license, since computer Baz has the same /usr tree as Bar. But, when opt is at /opt, it is not shared and such hassles can be avoided (of course, it can be even more easily avoided by staying away from non-free software, but

Re: Packages for adoption

1999-09-16 Thread Taketoshi Sano
Hi. I am now using and prefer the asclassic, and since knghtbrd (the maintainer) and joel (he is another applicant for asclassic) agreed to my succession, I take it over. Thanks. In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joseph Carter) writes: [1 text/plain; us-ascii

Re: Metapackages (was Re: Debian Weekly News - September 14th, 1999)

1999-09-16 Thread Laurent Martelli
SB == Stephane Bortzmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SB On Thursday 16 September 1999, at 2 h 3, the keyboard of Laurent SB Martelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: very nice, but how will uninstallation be handled ? Will you be able to uninstall all the packages of a metapackage in one step

Re: Metapackages (was Re: Debian Weekly News - September 14th, 1999)

1999-09-16 Thread Laurent Martelli
Martin == Martin Bialasinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin * Laurent == Laurent Martelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Martin wrote: Martin * Stephane == Stephane Bortzmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Martin wrote: Laurent It would also be nice to be able to select the packages one Laurent by one,

Could someone to package php4?

1999-09-16 Thread Piotr Roszatycki
PHP4 has already beta release. Could someone to package it? I have doubts about license - The PHP License, version 2.01, but I think it is free license. -- Piotr Dexter Roszatycki mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

libc6 is too large?

1999-09-16 Thread Piotr Roszatycki
From slink: Version: 2.0.7.19981211-6 Installed-Size: 1458 and from potato: Version: 2.1.2-1 Installed-Size: 4469 It is increased about 3MB! I think it is not good for minimal distribution (console on small HDD, libraries without locale, timezone info, nss, etc.) -- Piotr Dexter Roszatycki

Re: APRIS GNU/LINUX EXPO UPDATES. (need debian Logo).

1999-09-16 Thread Jeff Teunissen
Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Frederic CELLA wrote: can i send to them ? (this one the fisrt page of www.debian.org) The webpage has a postscript version of the logo iirc. This should make it trivial for them to produce a 300dpi logo (or whatever other resolution they desire).

Re: history (Was Re: Corel/Debian Linux Installer)

1999-09-16 Thread Clint Adams
BTW, one great thing about Linux is, fsck is incredibly fast compared to BSD :-) You haven't seen soft-updates on FreeBSD, have you?

Steve Haslam and Gnome in potato

1999-09-16 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi everybody, does anybody know if Steve Haslam is still with us (is he in holidays ?) ? Because he's the maintainer of gnome-core and gnome-libs but source those packages are not very well maintained. There are some RCB and many, many bugs. I've mailed him last week but got no answer. (check

GnuPG *Sub-Keys* for signing ?

1999-09-16 Thread Christian Hammers
Hello Is it possible to import the old RSA key to gpg, and then create a D/g subkey for signing. This would leave my signatures in the private keyfile but allowes me to sign with a non RSA key. read you, -christian- -- Christian Hammers WESTEND GmbH Tel

problems autobuilding perl-5.004

1999-09-16 Thread Dale Scheetz
I've built a shell script that runs from a list, extracts source from the archives, builds the source, and installs the binary packages into a target CD archives. I have been able to build several packages with this script, but when I got to perl-5.004 the build dies in the configure stage with

Re: Could someone to package php4?

1999-09-16 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 01:04:01PM +0200, Piotr Roszatycki wrote: PHP4 has already beta release. Could someone to package it? I have doubts about license - The PHP License, version 2.01, but I think it is free license. Just as long as php3 doesn't get nuked out of the distro. Ivan --

Re: debian O'Reilly book cover is up

1999-09-16 Thread Stevie Strickland
Am Mit, 15. Sep, 1999 schrieb Joey Hess: Steve Dunham wrote: All of their Linux books use a rodeo/cowboy theme rather than the traditional animal theme. I have no idea why. I kinda prefer the animals, but maybe they were running out? Well I always though it was supposed to be some

Re: building kernel 2.0.x under potato

1999-09-16 Thread Herbert Xu
John Lapeyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm. Well my two potato systems are slightly different. One just compiled 2.0.36 with the patch. But the other one failed with the message fixed or forbidden register 2 (cx) was spilled for class CREG, This means that you're not using gcc272. --

Re: Could someone to package php4?

1999-09-16 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 01:04:01PM +0200, Piotr Roszatycki wrote: PHP4 has already beta release. Could someone to package it? I have doubts about license - The PHP License, version 2.01, but I think it is free license. Just as long

Re: libc6 is too large?

1999-09-16 Thread Herbert Xu
Piotr Roszatycki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From slink: Version: 2.0.7.19981211-6 Installed-Size: 1458 and from potato: Version: 2.1.2-1 Installed-Size: 4469 It is increased about 3MB! I think it is not good for minimal distribution (console on small HDD, libraries without locale,

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-16 Thread Russell Coker
Wouldn't it be great if all the debian developers could be flown in to a convention site, get to meet each other, really tighten up the gpg web of trust, attend talks by developers, discuss important issues in person, and so on? It would really make us more of a community. You've been

Re: libc6 is too large?

1999-09-16 Thread Piotr Roszatycki
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Herbert Xu wrote: Version: 2.1.2-1 Installed-Size: 4469 It is increased about 3MB! It's because the maintainer decided to go against the policy and not strip the libraries. This has already been reported as a bug against libc6 (#40467). Yes, but libc6 package

Re: man preprocessor different than on Red Hat?

1999-09-16 Thread Peter S Galbraith
I wrote: In the preparation of a package, I've come up against a man page made for Red Hat that doesn't process correctly for Debian (at least on slink). The man page defines a table [...] This is solved. Zack Weinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] told me to add this line at the very top of the

(g)mc-4.5.38-2 still broken

1999-09-16 Thread Marek Habersack
Hi, I've just upgraded the gmc to the latest potato version, but it still has the broken /usr/bin/mc script which calls itself recursively. Also, wouln't it be cleaner if the postinst for this package added an appropriate alias to the /etc/profile and/or /etc/csh.cshrc (and possibly other

Re: Steve Haslam and Gnome in potato

1999-09-16 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If nobody is willing to do it, I'll do it myself. I'm willing to _help_. I worry that as one works on resolving these things, one will discover that there's cascading upgrades required... Mike.

Re: switching from PGP to GNUPG -- HOWTO?

1999-09-16 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Joseph Carter wrote: Install gpg-rsaref. Please only do that if you live in the US or Canada. The rest of us need gpg-rsa. Wichert. -- == This combination of bytes forms a message written to you by Wichert

Re: GPG trusted signatures, dpkg-buildpackage gpg

1999-09-16 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Joe Drew wrote: Also, I think I read something about dpkg-buildpackage automatically choosing gpg when you haven't got a .pgp/secring.pgp - I haven't got one, but it still chooses PGP anyways. What's up? (My pgp keyrings are in the ~/.gnupg directory) Weird. Is $HOME correct for

Re: GPG trusted signatures, dpkg-buildpackage gpg

1999-09-16 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Philip Hands wrote: Given that this key only seems to have been signed by Ray Dassen and itself Did you update your keyring recently? I have a bit more signatures: pub 1024D/2FA3BC2D 1998-07-05 Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig2FA3BC2D 1998-07-05 Wichert Akkerman

cannot lftp to master

1999-09-16 Thread Michael Meskes
Does anyone know what's going on here: lftp :~ debian Password: cd ok, cwd=/debian2/private/project/Incoming lftp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/debian2/private/project/Incoming ls -l rsh* -rw-r--r-- 1 herbert Debian 26838 Sep 5 09:47 rsh-client_0.10-1_i386.deb -rw-r--r-- 1 herbert Debian

ITP: mdate

1999-09-16 Thread DarkeMane Industries
mdate is funky mayan date program . ummm, I'll have a test package up tonight sometime on http://www.debian.org/~darke/mdate-1.0.0beta3-1_i386.deb its under the GPL and i'll be putting it in the games section (would this mean i install it under /usr/games ? Peter Crystal/darkewolf

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-16 Thread Christian Meder
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 10:05:52PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: Is this idea worth pursuing? Cool idea. But would it help Debian except of being a big social developer event ? Apart from the organizational problems it would only make sense if there's a track of technical talks about mostly internal

Re: More pam_limits trouble

1999-09-16 Thread Ben Collins
On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 03:53:06PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: Hi, The pam_limits module refuses to disable limits as described in the docs. It refuses to parse lines like: grendel - (where dash is separated with one or more spaces/tabs) - it reports 'invalid line' for such

Re: GPG trusted signatures, dpkg-buildpackage gpg

1999-09-16 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 00:02:10 +0100, Philip Hands wrote: Given that this key only seems to have been signed by Ray Dassen and itself, Even with the updates Wichert mentions, the web of trust for Debian GPG keys is still a lot sparser than the PGP one. I've pointed out one possible approach

Re: GPG trusted signatures, dpkg-buildpackage gpg

1999-09-16 Thread Joel Klecker
At 14:39 +0200 1999-09-16, Wichert Akkerman wrote: I also noticed that the gpg-support is in dpkg-buildpackage is currently broken. Pardon me? In what manner is it broken? -- Joel Klecker (aka Espy)Debian GNU/Linux Developer URL:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: libc6 is too large?

1999-09-16 Thread Joel Klecker
At 23:06 +1000 1999-09-16, Herbert Xu wrote: It's because the maintainer decided to go against the policy and not strip the libraries. This has already been reported as a bug against libc6 (#40467). Learn the fucking difference between strip --strip-debug and strip --strip-unneeded, you

Re: (g)mc-4.5.38-2 still broken

1999-09-16 Thread Martin Bialasinski
* Marek == Marek Habersack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marek Also, wouln't it be cleaner if the postinst for this package Marek added an appropriate alias to the /etc/profile and/or Marek /etc/csh.cshrc (and possibly other global shell startup Marek scripts) an alias definition, or a function to

Re: history (Was Re: Corel/Debian Linux Installer)

1999-09-16 Thread Alexander N. Benner
Hi Ship's Log, Lt. Steve Dunham, Stardate 160999.0113: /var 96M BTW, your /var might not be big enough to handle an upgrade from slink to potato. (Depending on whether the source of the packages is net or CD, I think.) That's right, but I think it might be more a 'bug' in apt-get then

Re: More pam_limits trouble

1999-09-16 Thread Marek Habersack
* Ben Collins said: It accepts only, e.g.: grendel - cpu [digit] Which is of no use, because setting the limit to 0 doesn't mean disabling it... Any advice? :) Hmmm...looking at the source, it wont accept a line with less than 4 arguments, yet you are correct

Re: (g)mc-4.5.38-2 still broken

1999-09-16 Thread Marek Habersack
* Martin Bialasinski said: Marek /etc/csh.cshrc (and possibly other global shell startup Marek scripts) an alias definition, or a function to call mc in a way Marek which would preserve the exit path of mc? No, directly changing files part of other packages is not allowed by policy. Hmm...

Question on grep 2.3-5 for potato

1999-09-16 Thread Chris Gorman
Hello, I was wondering if grep/fgrep/egrep are meant to be seperate programs or, hard links to one binary? If I take a long listing of the *ep files in /bin, they are all 47616 bytes, but they all only have one file link. Do you know if they are supposed to be one binary, and the functionality

Re: More pam_limits trouble

1999-09-16 Thread Ben Collins
On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 04:49:59PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: * Ben Collins said: It accepts only, e.g.: grendel - cpu [digit] Which is of no use, because setting the limit to 0 doesn't mean disabling it... Any advice? :) Hmmm...looking at the source,

Re: More pam_limits trouble

1999-09-16 Thread Marek Habersack
* Ben Collins said: Hmmm...looking at the source, it wont accept a line with less than 4 arguments, yet you are correct that the documentation say otherwise. Let me work on this. I'll have it fixed in the next upload. I have attached a quick (and untested - I didn't have time

Re: More pam_limits trouble

1999-09-16 Thread Ben Collins
On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 05:09:05PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: * Ben Collins said: Hmmm...looking at the source, it wont accept a line with less than 4 arguments, yet you are correct that the documentation say otherwise. Let me work on this. I'll have it fixed in the

Re: building kernel 2.0.x under potato

1999-09-16 Thread Brian Bassett
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, John Lapeyre wrote: chrisYeah, 2.7.2.* is the canonical compiler for 2.0 kernels. Can you chrispost what's actually going wrong? I could. The system hangs when I tar and gzip a large directory. I get no OOPS or any message in any log. It is hard to see what is

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-16 Thread Steve Lamb
Thursday, September 16, 1999, 3:23:25 AM, Marek wrote: How are you going to get the data on to the drive without a minimum installation on it in the first place? Geez (that's your favorite expression, ain't it?) - you really don't know what backups are for. I know what they are for.

Re: Looking for help with ftp archive

1999-09-16 Thread Jim Ziegler
This does not sound like fun, but it sounds necessary. How much time commitment is required? Must somebody already be a maintainer? On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Guy Maor wrote: Hi, we're looking for somebody to help us with ftp maintainance by snip If this sounds like fun, reply to this email.

Re: history (Was Re: Corel/Debian Linux Installer)

1999-09-16 Thread David Bristel
With this in mind, I think that having a configuration variable for apt that would allow the downloaded .deb files to be put in a user defined place. This way, if your /var is close to being full, you could, for example, drop it into a temporary directory on /home for the upgrade. This isn't the

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