Release-critical Bugreport for October 1, 1999

1999-10-01 Thread BugScan reporter
Bug stamp-out list for Oct 1 00:06 (CST) Total number of release-critical bugs: 266 Number that will disappear after removing packages marked [REMOVE]: 11 -- Package: abiword (main) Maintainer: Darren Benham [EMAIL

Re: Release-critical Bugreport for October 1, 1999

1999-10-01 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 12:15:07AM -0500, BugScan reporter wrote: Package: fileutils (main) Maintainer: Galen Hazelwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] 39680 rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty still fails, it only suppresses the message bbs:~# rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty /var || echo not empty

Re: corel linux demo

1999-10-01 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 05:29:29AM -0700, Kenneth Scharf wrote: I hope some shovelware cd makers will burn their beta onto cdr and sell it for those of us without T1 lines. I wonder if Corel will allow this... and I wonder why I should use a system which is not open source... Greetings Bernd

ITR: intent to rename poc to objc

1999-10-01 Thread Matthias Klose
Marcel Harkema writes: Hi, I am going to rename the poc (portable object compiler) package to objc if no-one objects. The upstream author requested this. Also, libgc4 (boehm gc) support is dropped. A new additional package will be introduced with libgc5 support. We do

Re: {R,I[INEW]}TP: free ssh [non-US]

1999-10-01 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On 30 Sep 1999, James Troup wrote: OpenBSD have started working on the last free SSH (1.2.12 was under a DFSG free license AFAICT[1]), they also, (again AFAICT [I'm going by the CVS commits]), are ripping out the patented algrothims (IDEA, etc.). Unfortunately, I'm chronically busy with

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-10-01 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 08:34:48AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 02:16:31PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: to paraphrase: i am against messing with the current default. i am not against (indeed, i am in favour of) increasing choice. There is currently no default -- it

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-10-01 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 09:21:09AM -0400, Clint Adams wrote: There is currently no default -- it varies on a per-package basis. I note that ### to run vtund as a server on port 5000, uncomment the following line: #--server-- 5000 isn't uncommented by default. it isn't useful to run

Re: warning: lilo 22dev0-1 can make your system unbootable !

1999-10-01 Thread David Weinehall
On 30 Sep 1999, Stephen Zander wrote: Thomas == Thomas Schoepf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thomas Did you /run/ lilo, too? Or just installed it? Yep, the postinst automatically reruns lilo assuming you take the default answers to all the questions it asks. I can confirm this behaviour;

Re: {R,I[INEW]}TP: free ssh [non-US]

1999-10-01 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 01-Oct-99 Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On 30 Sep 1999, James Troup wrote: OpenBSD have started working on the last free SSH (1.2.12 was under a DFSG free license AFAICT[1]), they also, (again AFAICT [I'm going by the CVS commits]), are ripping out the patented algrothims (IDEA, etc.).

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-10-01 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 07:02:44AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 08:05:32AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: sorry, it's you who needs to wake up to the real world. if people don't know how to administer a unix machine then they need to learn fast. Not true. you

Re: {R,I[INEW]}TP: free ssh [non-US]

1999-10-01 Thread Herbert Xu
James Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, I tentatively announce a preliminary ITP, pending confirming that their hacked version is indeed DSFG free. _But_, I'd much rather someone with more free time would do it instead. So, please, someone else (who doesn't live in the USA) have a

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-10-01 Thread Eric Weigel
As a user, I have to say that the Provides/Conflicts that happens with POP3 servers is annoying. I wanted to look at each of ipopd, gnu-pop3d and cucipop. I could only look at one at a time. It was ok in my case, because the machine I was using has very little pop3 traffic. But it was

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-10-01 Thread Raul Miller
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 10:53:44AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: i'm talking about the current practice of postinst scripts in various packages enabling the services that they provide (if any). i am not talking at all about which packages are base or required or extra or whatever - i'm talking

Re: Swap setup on Debian

1999-10-01 Thread Chris Rutter
On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Staffan Hamala wrote: Why doesn't the installer use -v1 so that larger swaps that 128MB can be used? I presume this is a boot-floppies issue, and will indeed be rectified nearer release time -- for the time being, it would seem prudent not to sacrifice any compatibility

neighbour table overflow

1999-10-01 Thread Brian May
Sorry if this is obvious... Does anyone know what this message means? neighbour table overflow I have been getting it on my potato NFS-Root system. eg when installing netbase. Restarting nis also causes it to display three times. nis client doesn't work, but might be unrelated configuration

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-10-01 Thread Bjoern Brill
On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Clint Adams wrote: debian's attitude is: if you want something different, DIY. and more importantly, it lets you DIY. Err.. what Unix DOESN'T let you DIY? Every Unix lets you DIY, of course. The problem is the *'/(% configuration done by most all distributions and

Re: Is XEmacs nonfree?

1999-10-01 Thread Chris Rutter
On 30 Sep 1999, David Coe wrote: Is that still an accurate description of the legal status (from FSF's perspective) of XEmacs, and if so, shouldn't we move it to non-free? Yes, probably; but no. RMS is referring to the fact that many authors of many pieces of xemacs haven't assigned

Package update for Sep 29: Malformed Priority Line

1999-10-01 Thread Rhys Dyfrgi
This is the wrong place to send this, but I could find no better place on the Debian contact page. When I was updating my package list (apt-get update), I got an error on the ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_potato_main_binary-i386_Packages file. Reading Package Lists... Error! E: Malformed

Re: First beta version of the Debian SGML/XML HOWTO

1999-10-01 Thread David Coe
Stephane Bortzmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Debian SGML/XML HOWTO. [...] http://www.debian.org/~bortz/SGML-HOWTO/ [...] looks nice, thanks for doing this; one immediate question: nsgmls is not (any longer?) in potato. Should it be? Thanks.

Re: Is XEmacs nonfree?

1999-10-01 Thread Raul Miller
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 05:01:05AM +0100, Chris Rutter wrote: Yes, probably; but no. RMS is referring to the fact that many authors of many pieces of xemacs haven't assigned copyright to the FSF, meaning that copyright remains with them, or possibly even their employer, depending on sticky

NcFTP is free again?

1999-10-01 Thread Chris Cheney
I just looked at NcFTP 3.0Beta20 and it appears to have changed its license to free (no license file) and the libncftp requirement of non-use by other programs seems to have been dropped also. Maybe someone more knowledgeable than me can look at this and see if it can be packaged again.

Re: BTS: How are the bug reports organized?

1999-10-01 Thread Darren Benham
Then close some bugs :) No, seriously, that's how it's created but as long as we don't start ignoring bugs, we'll never see or 9 bugs in a single directory. On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 11:46:07PM +0200, Thomas Schoepf wrote: I'm currently working on a tool that automatically fetches all

Re: BTS: How are the bug reports organized?

1999-10-01 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Darren Benham wrote: No, seriously, that's how it's created but as long as we don't start ignoring bugs, we'll never see or 9 bugs in a single directory. Yeah, but the entire reason behind splitting things up like that was to reduce the number of files

Reupload to ftp.uni-erlangen.de

1999-10-01 Thread Andreas Tille
Hello, I wanted to dupload a new version of my freetds-jdbc package to ftp.uni-erlangen.de. Unfortunately the first ftp connection were broken. A second trial was refused with the message: freetds-jdbc_pre0.3-1.diff.gz 2.8 kB dupload fatal error: Can't upload freetds-jdbc_pre0.3-1.diff.gz:

Re: First beta version of the Debian SGML/XML HOWTO

1999-10-01 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Friday 1 October 1999, at 4 h 14, the keyboard of David Coe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: looks nice, thanks for doing this; one immediate question: nsgmls is not (any longer?) in potato. Should it be? It is: ishtar:~ cat /etc/debian_version potato ishtar:~ dpkg --search /usr/bin/nsgmls

Re: ITR: intent to rename poc to objc

1999-10-01 Thread Marcel Harkema
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 09:42:23PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 01:39:21AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: Marcel Harkema writes: Hi, I am going to rename the poc (portable object compiler) package to objc if no-one objects. The upstream author

ITP: jnethack

1999-10-01 Thread Kenshi Muto
Hi, I intent to upload jnethack. jnethack is NetHack with Japanese patch. - All messages were translated to Japanese language. - New character Fighter (It looks SailorMoon, but I don't know about this so well ;-) ) added. Yes, this package is fork version from nethack. But I think the patch

Re^6: strange behavior of dh_dhelp

1999-10-01 Thread Marco Budde
Am 30.09.99 schrieb joey # kitenet.net ... Moin Joey! JH(a) symlinks don#t work with the http protocol JH You know, I've read the http protocol, and I don't recal any mention of JH such unix-centric concepts of symlinks, especially not any prohibition of JH them. If you're going to keep

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-10-01 Thread The Doctor What
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 08:05:32AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 06:38:55AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: The fantasy is over--WELCOME TO REAL LIFE! It turns out that some people install Linux without preexisting knowledge of how to securely administer a Unix machine.

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-10-01 Thread The Doctor What
On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 01:02:44AM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: The Doctor What wrote: Why shouldn't *all* daemon packages ask these questions, and whether to even run *upon install*? Because we need to decrease the number of questions asked at install time, not increase it. According to who?

Re: NcFTP is free again?

1999-10-01 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 01:41:18 -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote: So we can't do squat with NcFTP 3 until Mike includes a license. I switched to lftp myself at the time of the previous ncftp license issue, and haven't looked back. Is there anything in ncftp that lftp doesn't have? If there isn't,

Re: warning: lilo 22dev0-1 can make your system unbootable !

1999-10-01 Thread Matthew Vernon
Stephen Zander writes: Vincent == Vincent Renardias [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Vincent short summary: lilo v22 works only with 2.0 kernels; it Vincent won't boot a 2.2.x or a 2.3.y. a v21 version has been Vincent reuploaded to master this morning. Hmmm, sure? $ dpkg

ITP: actx

1999-10-01 Thread Kenshi Muto
Hi, I intent to upload package actx. actx is pretty mascot program for X Window System, it will catch your heart. :-) Package: actx Version: 0.98pre8-2 Section: x11 Priority: optional Architecture: i386 Depends: libc6 (= 2.1), xlib6g (= 3.3-5), xlib6g (= 3.3.4-1), xpm4g (=

Re: Re^6: strange behavior of dh_dhelp

1999-10-01 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 07:31:00PM +0100, Marco Budde wrote: Ok, you#re right. But the classic http daemons (cern for example) used/use chroot() for security reasons. You#re right, the current apache package supports symlinks, but will all users use apache? Will all users use

PLEASE READ: lilo 22dev0-1 can make your system unbootable !

1999-10-01 Thread Vincent Renardias
Stephen Zander writes: Vincent == Vincent Renardias [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Vincent short summary: lilo v22 works only with 2.0 kernels; it Vincent won't boot a 2.2.x or a 2.3.y. a v21 version has been Vincent reuploaded to master this morning. Hmmm, sure?

ARGH!!! Re: ITP: jnethack

1999-10-01 Thread Vincent Renardias
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Kenshi Muto wrote: jnethack is NetHack with Japanese patch. - All messages were translated to Japanese language. - New character Fighter (It looks SailorMoon, but I don't know about this so well ;-) ) added. Yes, this package is fork version from nethack. But I

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-10-01 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 03:13:36AM -0500, The Doctor What wrote: Excuse me. I work for TurboLinux. i don't give a damn who you work for. We make it an EXPLICIT policy to disable all daemons, well, bully for you. i guess that must make you so proud. if someone doesn't want a service

Re: Reupload to ftp.uni-erlangen.de

1999-10-01 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Andreas Tille wrote: I wanted to dupload a new version of my freetds-jdbc package to ftp.uni-erlangen.de. Unfortunately the first ftp connection were broken. A second trial was refused with the message: freetds-jdbc_pre0.3-1.diff.gz 2.8 kB dupload fatal error: Can't

Re: Redesign of diskless NFS-root package apt error

1999-10-01 Thread Brian May
On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 05:16:28PM +1000, Brian May wrote: apt, for starters is broken: Whats worse: 1. Complaining about a problem and not having it fixed. 2. Complaining about a problem, and subsequently finding it already has been fixed. Well, in my case, the problems I encountered

Processed: Bug#46388: NO 2.1r3 M68K CDs: trn depends

1999-10-01 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: severity 46388 grave Bug#46388: NO 2.1r3 M68K CDs: trn depends Severity set to `grave'. reassign 46388 general Bug#46388: NO 2.1r3 M68K CDs: trn depends Bug reassigned from package `trn' to `general'. thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact

Re: ARGH!!! Re: ITP: jnethack

1999-10-01 Thread Peter Makholm
Vincent Renardias [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - All messages were translated to Japanese language. Can you *PLEASE* try to merge this patch with the upstream version 1st. If the patch is done correctly, I see no reason the upstream maintainer should refuse it. (And if he does, why should

Bug#46388: NO 2.1r3 M68K CDs: trn depends

1999-10-01 Thread Roman Hodek
trn: Depends: libc6, libncurses4 (= 4.2-3.1), inews [...] 68k - I think this is a bug in your build daemon - it's built a slink package against the potato libraries. Can any of you give me access to a slink machine to fix this? cd - as requested. It's not (strictly speaking) a bug in

Re: ARGH!!! Re: ITP: jnethack

1999-10-01 Thread Vincent Renardias
On 1 Oct 1999, Peter Makholm wrote: Vincent Renardias [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - All messages were translated to Japanese language. Can you *PLEASE* try to merge this patch with the upstream version 1st. If the patch is done correctly, I see no reason the upstream maintainer

Re: corel linux demo

1999-10-01 Thread Kenneth Scharf
--- Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 05:29:29AM -0700, Kenneth Scharf wrote: I hope some shovelware cd makers will burn their beta onto cdr and sell it for those of us without T1 lines. I wonder if Corel will allow this... and I wonder why I should

shlib-with-non-pic-code _libglademodule.so

1999-10-01 Thread Torsten Landschoff
Hi! I am the maintainer of python-gnome and the associated modules. The current python-glade has support for the libglade library in _libglademodule.so. Problem: Lintian complains that _libglademodule.so contains position dependent code. But it is compiled with gcc -g -O2 -fPIC -c

I am leaving again...

1999-10-01 Thread Torsten Landschoff
Hi *, I am leaving for another week of vacation today. I will not be able to read my mail or do any work related to Debian. Please feel free to NMU all my packages in case that is needed. Also I want to say that a new ILU version is out and I did not yet have the time to package it. I am going

Re: Reupload to ftp.uni-erlangen.de

1999-10-01 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Santiago Vila wrote: You may use a *.commands file to remove the unwanted files. This is explained in the README in the UploadQueue directory. Which directory is that? I havn't found such a file you described. Kind regards Andreas.

slink - potato

1999-10-01 Thread andreas pålsson
Hello. I'm about to make an update of a base Slink-system to the unstable Potato. Is there anything I should think of or preperations to be made before updating? Why I do this is because I want to become a Debian-developer, and any hints and tips are much appreciated. Sincerely...

Re: slink - potato

1999-10-01 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
yea...I just did an update today and something decided to remove /bin/sh during the upgrade...and didn't put it back before it was needed... so if something hoses for you just recreate it by linking it to like bash... Ivan On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 02:24:45PM +0200, andreas pålsson wrote: Hello.

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1999-10-01 Thread Esa Vitikka
Hello! What is function library name of fvwm2? I like to make aplication by C. Buttons, Fields and Windows. Student Esa Vitikka Rovaniemi Finland. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Re: Release-critical Bugreport for October 1, 1999

1999-10-01 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 12:15:07AM -0500, BugScan reporter wrote: Package: fileutils (main) Maintainer: Galen Hazelwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] 39680 rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty still fails, it only suppresses the message bbs:~# rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty /var || echo not empty

Re: compressed HTML/dhelp

1999-10-01 Thread Marco Budde
Joel Klecker wrote: close 41352 Why is it so difficult to fix bugs instead of closing bug reports without fixing the bugs? thanks :( Please fix bugs! How should the user read compressed HTML files? Could you tell me one internet page sending compressed html documents to the user? Show

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-10-01 Thread Clint Adams
it isn't useful to run the vtund server until it is configured. there is no standard configuration which is suitable for shipping as a default - it MUST be customised for each site, each tunnel must be setup individually. When did useful enter this discussion? pipsecd starts the daemon

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-10-01 Thread Clint Adams
[Craig flaming Doctor What deleted] if someone doesn't want a service enabled then they should not install the package that provides that service. if they want the service, then install the appropriate package. simple. their choice to install or not install. now what is so fucking

Is this a bug in grep, or is it me...

1999-10-01 Thread Dale Scheetz
I am trying to grep the override file for the section for debhelper. I am using the whole word option (-w), but this is what I get: $ grep -w debhelper override.potato debhelper optionaldevel hello-debhelper optionaldevel In the man page, under the -w option, it says that,

Need IRC help for Open Source / Open Science conference

1999-10-01 Thread Open Source/Open Science
Hi, I am at the Open Source / Open Science conference at Brookhaven National Labs. Tormrrow (Saturday) we are having the conference. We are doing an mbone broadcast, and would like to set up IRC so that people can send in questions. But nobody here so far knows a thing about IRC. So, I need

bash package removing /bin/sh on upgrade

1999-10-01 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 08:36:01AM -0400, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: yea...I just did an update today and something decided to remove /bin/sh during the upgrade...and didn't put it back before it was needed... so if something hoses for you just recreate it by linking it to like bash... I am the

Re: Need IRC help for Open Source / Open Science conference

1999-10-01 Thread Johnie Ingram
Open == Open Source/Open Science [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Open But nobody here so far knows a thing about IRC. I recommend http://www.irchelp.org/ for a quick primer. Open So, I need someone to create an OSOS channel on some server Open like irc.openprojects.net . Then, I need instructions

Re: Is this a bug in grep, or is it me...

1999-10-01 Thread Ben Pfaff
Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: $ grep -w debhelper override.potato debhelper optionaldevel hello-debhelper optionaldevel In the man page, under the -w option, it says that, in order to match, the string must be either at the beginning of the line, or preceeded

Corel changes BTA?

1999-10-01 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hello, I have seen on IRC a link to the changed BTA by Corel (I lost the link, hough). Someone who received this please verifies the correctness of this information, as I do not participate in the beta test and don't know if this is real (although it looks real). A quick check shows the

Re: Is XEmacs nonfree?

1999-10-01 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 09:14:15AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: The FSF does only include code in GNU programs if the author assigns the copyright to the FSF by signing a paper. Wrong. Take a look at http://www.gnu.org/software/ At

Re: BTS: How are the bug reports organized?

1999-10-01 Thread Darren Benham
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 11:19:56PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Darren Benham wrote: No, seriously, that's how it's created but as long as we don't start ignoring bugs, we'll never see or 9 bugs in a single directory. Yeah, but the entire reason behind

Re: Need IRC help for Open Source / Open Science conference

1999-10-01 Thread bruce
Oops. I sent that message regarding need IRC help. I think the return address on the previous mesage is no good. Bruce

Re: boot-floppies status from an insider (was Re: Deficiencies in Debian)

1999-10-01 Thread goswin . brederlow
Eric Delaunay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do we still want to support very old hardware, especially low memory system (eg. some old sparc, and maybe old 386, 486 as well) ? Then you also need a 1.x kernel. 2.0 is wasting mem and 2.2 doesn´t boot on low mem maschines. I think its safe to assume 8

Re: Redesign of diskless NFS-root package ITP diskless-image

1999-10-01 Thread goswin . brederlow
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [1 text/plain; us-ascii (quoted-printable)] On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 11:46:36AM +1000, Brian May wrote: [description removed] I have made most of the changed required for my redesign of diskless. Amazingly, it looks like no changed are required for

Re: ARGH!!! Re: ITP: jnethack

1999-10-01 Thread Kenshi Muto
Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:53:44 + (GMT), Re: ARGH!!! Re: ITP: jnethack wrote about Vincent Renardias [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): vincent On 1 Oct 1999, Peter Makholm wrote: vincent Vincent Renardias [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: vincent vincent - All messages were translated to

Re: Is this a bug in grep, or is it me...

1999-10-01 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 1 Oct 1999, Ben Pfaff wrote: Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: $ grep -w debhelper override.potato debhelper optionaldevel hello-debhelper optionaldevel In the man page, under the -w option, it says that, in order to match, the string must be either

Re: ARGH!!! Re: ITP: jnethack

1999-10-01 Thread Ben Gertzfield
Vincent == Vincent Renardias [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Vincent Here we go again with package forks... Can you *PLEASE* Vincent try to merge this patch with the upstream version 1st. Vincent If the patch is done correctly, I see no reason the Vincent upstream maintainer should

Re: Is this a bug in grep, or is it me...

1999-10-01 Thread Ben Pfaff
Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The hyphon at the ned of hello in hello-debhelper isn't any of these, but grep declares it to match anyway! Is this something to do with the form of my expression? It's preceded by a character that isn't a letter, digit or underscore: a

dhcpcd procedure

1999-10-01 Thread Dpk
I recently adopted dhcpcd... previous versions of dhcpcd would restart during upgrades, which obviously is bad for those doing it remotely. Since my recent upload does not restart dhcpcd, I need to start it for those upgrading from previous versions that did stop the daemon. What would be the

Re: slink - potato

1999-10-01 Thread Bob Nielsen
I did an upgrade of one of my systems yesterday with little incident (apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade). I had to rerun the upgrade part several times because the order of installation was a bit messed up (bind). Bob On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 02:24:45PM +0200, andreas pålsson wrote:

Re: dhcpcd procedure

1999-10-01 Thread Edward Betts
Dpk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would be the best way to check for this? A simple 'ps |grep dhcpcd' ? Would doing so make my package dependent on procps? or is there a convenient way to check the installed version of dhcpcd someway? Check $2 Debian Packaging

recompile needed for xlib6g (= 3.3.5-1) instead of (= 3.3.2.3a-2) ?

1999-10-01 Thread Peter S Galbraith
[posted this to -mentors 40 hours ago without an answer, so perhaps I'll try -devel instead] I recently uploaded i386 packages that were build on a slink system upgraded to potato's libc6 and C compilers (everything else is slink). These packages (xcolmix and xplot) have this depends line:

Re: shlib-with-non-pic-code _libglademodule.so

1999-10-01 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 11:23:00AM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote: I am the maintainer of python-gnome and the associated modules. The current python-glade has support for the libglade library in _libglademodule.so. Problem: Lintian complains that _libglademodule.so contains position

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-10-01 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 09:47:24PM -0500, Eric Weigel wrote: I wanted to look at each of ipopd, gnu-pop3d and cucipop. I could only look at one at a time. It was ok in my case, because the machine I was using has very little pop3 traffic. But it was awkward. If I wanted to download source

Re: slink - potato

1999-10-01 Thread John Lapeyre
Something I have noticed several times. If you are doing a remote upgrade (probably a crazy idea), the telnet daemon (maybe inetd or something) becomes unavailble for quite some time. Maybe it is between the time that netbase is unpacked and when it is configured. There are usually problems

Re: First beta version of the Debian SGML/XML HOWTO

1999-10-01 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: ishtar:~ dpkg --search /usr/bin/nsgmls sp: /usr/bin/nsgmls That only means you have it installed. Now try this: [lightning:~]-10 dpkg --print-avail nsgmls Package `nsgmls' is not available. ie it's no longer available. If my memory servers me correctly

Re: dhcpcd procedure

1999-10-01 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Edward Betts wrote: Check $2 No, check $1. Wichertk -- == This combination of bytes forms a message written to you by Wichert Akkerman. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.wi.leidenuniv.nl/~wichert/

Re: First beta version of the Debian SGML/XML HOWTO

1999-10-01 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 08:54:14PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman was heard to say: Previously Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: ishtar:~ dpkg --search /usr/bin/nsgmls sp: /usr/bin/nsgmls ^^ That only means you have it installed. Now try this: [lightning:~]-10 dpkg --print-avail nsgmls Package

Re: bash package removing /bin/sh on upgrade

1999-10-01 Thread James Troup
Torsten Landschoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If somebody could come up with a better method of handling this it would be most welcome. Don't do it (muck around with /bin/sh links). Guy made a comment in the bug report about this and AFAIK didn't do it yet in case of breakages like this. --

Re: NcFTP is free again?

1999-10-01 Thread Joel Klecker
At 10:39 +0200 1999-10-01, J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\) wrote: I switched to lftp myself at the time of the previous ncftp license issue, and haven't looked back. Is there anything in ncftp that lftp doesn't have? Well, ncftp does display server messages without needing debug output on. -- Joel Klecker

Re: bash package removing /bin/sh on upgrade

1999-10-01 Thread Joel Klecker
At 15:00 +0200 1999-10-01, Torsten Landschoff wrote: I am the person responsible for this problem. In fact the problem was that people did not want the bash package to override their /bin/sh link so it had to be removed from the package. Those people need to learn to use diversions (and yes, you

Re: {R,I[INEW]}TP: free ssh [non-US]

1999-10-01 Thread Joel Klecker
At 09:55 +0100 1999-10-01, Philip Hands wrote: James Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OpenBSD have started working on the last free SSH (1.2.12 was under a DFSG free license AFAICT[1]), they also, (again AFAICT [I'm going by the CVS commits]), are ripping out the patented algrothims (IDEA, etc.).

SSH never free

1999-10-01 Thread Richard Stallman
I am pretty sure that SSH was never free software. Could you show me the license on the version that they started with? Is there any chance that you could put me in touch with the OpenBSD people who are working on this?

Re: slink - potato

1999-10-01 Thread David Bristel
Strange, I've never had a hard time with a dist-upgrade when I am remote. Of course, it's best to open a new telnet window once the upgrade is complete, and to not do a final reboot until you are on site, since if it doesn't boot, you are stuck. But that behavior of losing connection is

Re: boot-floppies status from an insider (was Re: Deficiencies in Debian)

1999-10-01 Thread Eric Delaunay
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Delaunay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do we still want to support very old hardware, especially low memory system (eg. some old sparc, and maybe old 386, 486 as well) ? Then you also need a 1.x kernel. 2.0 is wasting mem and 2.2 doesn´t boot on low mem

Re: {R,I[INEW]}TP: free ssh [non-US]

1999-10-01 Thread James Troup
Joel Klecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 09:55 +0100 1999-10-01, Philip Hands wrote: James Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OpenBSD have started working on the last free SSH (1.2.12 was under a DFSG free license AFAICT[1]), they also, (again AFAICT [I'm going by the CVS commits]), are

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-01 Thread James Troup
Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am pretty sure that SSH was never free software. Could you show me the license on the version that they started with? - This file is part of the ssh software, Copyright (c) 1995 Tatu

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-01 Thread Ryan Murray
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 09:52:42PM +0100, James Troup wrote: I am pretty sure that SSH was never free software. Could you show me the license on the version that they started with? - This file is part of the ssh software,

Re: bash package removing /bin/sh on upgrade

1999-10-01 Thread Raul Miller
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 03:00:51PM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote: If somebody could come up with a better method of handling this it would be most welcome. I'd suggest releasing a bash (which doesn't use #!/bin/sh scripts for install/remove) that, in postinst, divert's bash's /bin/sh. Leave

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-01 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On 1 Oct 1999, James Troup wrote: [ RSA is no longer included. ] Wait wait, doesn't this mean that ssh RSA authentication is gone as well?? Did they replace it with DSS/DH or what? IMHO ssh would cease to be very usefull as a security tool without a public key mechism, not to mention that

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-01 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 02:16:03PM -0700, Ryan Murray wrote: restrictive); see below for details. [ RSA is no longer included. ] [ IDEA is no longer included. ] IDEA was the only part of ssh that made it non-free, prohibiting commercial use. Wrong, RSA makes it non-free, and so does

Re: ITP: actx

1999-10-01 Thread Thomas Schoepf
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 07:16:37PM +0900, Kenshi Muto wrote: Package: actx Version: 0.98pre8-2 Section: x11 Who else thinks that this might better be set to 'games' ? Description: A Window Sitter Program on X ActX is a window sitter program to make your life with X rich and

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-01 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 01-Oct-99 Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On 1 Oct 1999, James Troup wrote: [ RSA is no longer included. ] Wait wait, doesn't this mean that ssh RSA authentication is gone as well?? Did they replace it with DSS/DH or what? IMHO ssh would cease to be very usefull as a security tool without a

Re: shlib-with-non-pic-code _libglademodule.so

1999-10-01 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 08:37:41PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: I think so, too. I have experienced this error several times, and could not find any error in the .so files it said were wrong. The bug report is already filed, #46186. BTW does this perhaps happen on just this one library in the

[ISSUE] No support for shadow groups, yet we perpetrate to have it

1999-10-01 Thread Ben Collins
This may sound silly, but in fact, glibc does not support shadow groups[1] (I'm not sure if we ever had this support), yet the shadow programs attempt to use it. For example we convert the group file to shadow, even though glibc does not contain the calls to get this info. If you look at the