Re: emacs19 removal? [was: rms@gnu.org: Bug#57636: Security problem with emacs19]

2000-03-11 Thread Takao KAWAMURA
Can we remove emacs19 from unstable now? It's de facto orphaned both upstream and in Debian, and a new version exists, supported in both upstream and Debian. Yes we can. We should do so, I think. Not only emacs19 but also mule2 should be removed. Because mule2 is multilingualized emacs19, so

Re: XFree86 4.0

2000-03-11 Thread Pedro Guerreiro
On Fri, Mar 10, 2000 at 07:14:39AM -0500, SCOTT FENTON wrote: I was wondering if we could pkg it alongside XF3.3.6 in potato (but then again, I wondered why we couldn't do this with the 2.2 kernel in slink). I don't think that's a very good ideia. To start with, lots of hardware hasn't been

Free Documentation License

2000-03-11 Thread Jordi
Should this new license be included in base-files? -- Jordi Mallach Pérez || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Rediscovering Freedom, ka Oskuro in RL-MUD || [EMAIL PROTECTED]|| Using Debian GNU/Linux http://sindominio.net GnuPG public information: pub 1024D/917A225E telnet pusa.uv.es 23

Re: XFree86 4.0

2000-03-11 Thread Ricardo Javier Cardenes Medina
On Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 02:15:23AM +, Pedro Guerreiro wrote: Even if the 4.0 release was ok, I'm not very confortable with releasing such a beast in the midle of the frozen. Almost certainly the wreck it would cause should postpone the release about half a year (give or take a few months

Re: emacs19 removal? [was: rms@gnu.org: Bug#57636: Security problem with emacs19]

2000-03-11 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Mar 10, 2000 at 08:11:11PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: BTW I was told removing all non-current Netscape Navigator versions will be done RSN (if it wasn't already done, haven't checked today). that could be a problem on the powerpc branch as the only available netscape is an outdated

package of dhisd/dhid

2000-03-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
Is anyone working on a package of the DHIS server/client from www.dhis.org? Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB. CCs of replies on mailing lists are welcome.

Re: package of dhisd/dhid

2000-03-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 05:45:27PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Is anyone working on a package of the DHIS server/client from www.dhis.org? Found it in woody, had only checked for it in potato. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB. CCs of replies on mailing lists are welcome.

ITP(?): Interbase 6

2000-03-11 Thread Ed Boraas
Hi there. I'm planning on packaging Interbase 6, when it's released. I haven't seen any ITPs on this yet, but if someone else was planning on doing this, please let me know. Interbase 6 is (will be) an MPL-licensed SQL92-Compliant database. A non-free (but free beer) Public Field Test has

ADV: HOT DEALS -- Last Minute SPRING BREAK and SKI Vacations!!! ==

2000-03-11 Thread mdozee1000
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Re: ITP: xhangglider

2000-03-11 Thread Yasuhiro TAKE
At Sat, 19 Feb 2000 00:09:24 +0900, I wrote: I indend to package xhangglider. This is a pretty cute demo program for X. It is under the GPL2, and i believe nothing else has the same features :) I put xhangglider.deb and related files at http://master.debian.or.jp/~take Please look at

nasty slink - potato upgrade problem

2000-03-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
I just considered upgrading a slink server here to potato. I apt-get updated and then ran apt-get dist-upgrade. exim is held back, because libopenldap1 is uninstallable, because libopenldap-runtime is uninstallable, because debconf is uninstallable, because perl-5.004* is to be installed rather

Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 3, 2000

2000-03-11 Thread Michael Bramer
On Thu, Mar 09, 2000 at 11:19:09AM -0600, David Starner wrote: On Thu, Mar 09, 2000 at 05:25:42PM +0100, Michael Bramer wrote: application: fetchmail 5.3.1 Changes: Fixes for a number of minor bugs, including two reported from the RH6.2 beta and a dozen or so from the Debian

Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 10, 2000

2000-03-11 Thread Christian Hammers
Hello Package: fetchmailconf (debian/main) Maintainer: Paul Haggart [EMAIL PROTECTED] [REMOVE] This package can be removed if it is not fixed. 57287 generates wrong config files Hello! I fixed that one a couple of days ago! Do not remove it! bye, -christian- Package:

Re: Free Documentation License

2000-03-11 Thread Joey Hess
Jordi wrote: Should this new license be included in base-files? That seems very premature. Best wait until 1) It is a common-license 2) debian-legal has vetted it Personally, I have to wonder if this type of thing is DFSG-free: If you publish printed copies of the Document numbering more

Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 10, 2000

2000-03-11 Thread Christian Surchi
On Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 12:07:11PM +0100, Christian Hammers wrote: Mail-Followup-To: ch, debian-devel@lists.debian.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED], ^^ I think you must fix your header... ;-) bye Christian -- | Christian Surchi | www.firenze.linux.it/~csurchi| www. |

netstd split results in loss of functionality

2000-03-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
Hi, Why doesn't netstd depend: on all the packages it previously included? When upgrading to potato, tftpd functionality is lost because the new netstd only suggests it. And the parameters to tftpd have changed and the new package does not update the inetd entry. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt

Re: netstd split results in loss of functionality

2000-03-11 Thread Herbert Xu
On Sun, Mar 12, 2000 at 01:09:26AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Why doesn't netstd depend: on all the packages it previously included? When upgrading to potato, tftpd functionality is lost because the new netstd only suggests it. And the parameters to tftpd have changed and the new package

weird NFS problem

2000-03-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
The behaviour of the user space nfs server has changed in a potentially nasty way and there's no documentation about it in the package or better yet at installation time. On slink, you could put the names of symlinks in /etc/exports eg /home, even though /home was a symlink to /local/home, you

Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 10, 2000

2000-03-11 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 12:07:11PM +0100, Christian Hammers wrote: Package: nfs-kernel-server (debian/main) Maintainer: Chip Salzenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 59641 nfs-kernel-server: conflicts with Standard package nfs-server Package: nfs-server (debian/main) Maintainer: Herbert Xu [EMAIL

Re: emacs19 removal? [was: rms@gnu.org: Bug#57636: Security problem with emacs19]

2000-03-11 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Mar 10, 2000 at 08:19:29PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: BTW I was told removing all non-current Netscape Navigator versions will be done RSN (if it wasn't already done, haven't checked today). that could be a problem on the powerpc branch as the only available netscape is an outdated

Re: emacs19 removal? [was: rms@gnu.org: Bug#57636: Security problem with emacs19]

2000-03-11 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 03:52:16PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: On Fri, Mar 10, 2000 at 08:19:29PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: BTW I was told removing all non-current Netscape Navigator versions will be done RSN (if it wasn't already done, haven't checked today). that could be a problem on

Re: (no subject)

2000-03-11 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Mark wrote: Not actually a bug, but a recommendation for later distributions security, i've noticed 2.1 only allows something along the lines of an 8 character password. If someone were to get ahold of someone's username, which is easy to do, and they of course had some queer

Re: nasty slink - potato upgrade problem

2000-03-11 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 07:06:24PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt écrivait: Trouble ahead? Please run apt-get install apt before doing the dist-upgrade. Old apt don't manage well the perl transition. This will be documented in the Release Notes. Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog -=-

Relating qpopper and hostname RC-bugs

2000-03-11 Thread Christian Hammers
Hello An addition to the Release-Critical bugs list: qpooper#60016: does not understand pass I've just closed that bug (may I as non qpopper-maintainer?) as the pass command works just find. The error message just occurs if the User tries to authentificate *twice* in a

Re: nasty slink - potato upgrade problem

2000-03-11 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 04:37:11PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog was heard to say: Le Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 07:06:24PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt écrivait: Trouble ahead? Please run apt-get install apt before doing the dist-upgrade. Old apt don't manage well the perl transition. This will be documented

Re: emacs19 removal? [was: rms@gnu.org: Bug#57636: Security problem with emacs19]

2000-03-11 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Takao KAWAMURA) writes: Can we remove emacs19 from unstable now? It's de facto orphaned both upstream and in Debian, and a new version exists, supported in both upstream and Debian. Yes we can. We should do so, I think. If so, please be sure to get rid of custom as

Potato fresh install

2000-03-11 Thread Philippe Troin
I installed a fresh copy of potato on a box, using the 2.2.7-2000-02-13 boot-disks. The base system install worked perfectly OK here. The first time I tried to run apt (on a NFS archive), the package scanning done by debconf failed because base-perl was missing getopt. = dpkg -i perl*.deb

Danger Will Robinson! Danger!

2000-03-11 Thread SCOTT FENTON
OK, Linus has just put out 2.3.51, the next patch will be a pre-2.4 one. To avoid the problems we've had with slink not being 2.2, I reccomend that, even if it's not the default, we include a 2.4 /binary/ in potato. You could even put a note in the potato release notes saying you don't reccomend

Re: Danger Will Robinson! Danger!

2000-03-11 Thread Ben Collins
On Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 01:57:49PM -0500, SCOTT FENTON wrote: OK, Linus has just put out 2.3.51, the next patch will be a pre-2.4 one. To avoid the problems we've had with slink not being 2.2, I reccomend that, even if it's not the default, we include a 2.4 /binary/ in potato. You could even

Re: Danger Will Robinson! Danger!

2000-03-11 Thread Jim Lynch
If debian puts a 2.4 in, they will have to spend time testing it. there's enough to do without more stuff that we don't even know will be out... If you want 2.3 or 2.4, build it yourself. Look into kernel-package. -Jim --- Jim Lynch Finger for pgp key as Laney College CIS admin: [EMAIL

Re: emacs19 removal?

2000-03-11 Thread Igor Mozetic
Can we remove emacs19 from unstable now? It's de facto orphaned both upstream and in Debian, and a new version exists, supported in both upstream and Debian. What happens to vm then? I depends on emacs19 (and not emacs20) ... -Igor Mozetic

Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 10, 2000

2000-03-11 Thread Bdale Garbee
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Bug stamp-out list for Mar 10 03:04 (CST) Package: dump (debian/main) Maintainer: Bdale Garbee [EMAIL PROTECTED] 59935 dump: dump segfaults A number of bugs have been fixed since the 0.4b12 snapshot that's in potato now. I agree with the submitter

Re: Free Documentation License

2000-03-11 Thread Jules Bean
On Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 04:54:20AM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: Jordi wrote: Should this new license be included in base-files? That seems very premature. Best wait until 1) It is a common-license 2) debian-legal has vetted it Personally, I have to wonder if this type of thing is

Re: emacs19 removal?

2000-03-11 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 09:12:52PM +0100, Igor Mozetic wrote: Can we remove emacs19 from unstable now? It's de facto orphaned both upstream and in Debian, and a new version exists, supported in both upstream and Debian. What happens to vm then? I depends on emacs19 (and not emacs20) ...

Re: Danger Will Robinson! Danger!

2000-03-11 Thread Jacob Kuntz
our biggest handicap is that we're always a year behind everyone else. being a year behind is suicide in any industry. being a year behind in an industry that moves as fast as open source software, is idiocy. our stable release is using 2.0.36. most people are afraid of our 'unstable' tree. you've

Re: Danger Will Robinson! Danger!

2000-03-11 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 04:06:01PM -0500, Jacob Kuntz wrote: being a year behind is suicide in any industry. being a year behind in an industry that moves as fast as open source software, is idiocy. Why do we have to be a part of an industry? Debian would be commercial if we truely cared about

Re: Danger Will Robinson! Danger!

2000-03-11 Thread paul
I find it hard to believe that this issue arises every time a new kernel is released. It may be useful to some to run the latest, but for most it's not an issue. IMHO including the latest kernel is only useful as a marketing gimmick, and as Debian is non-commercial we don't need that kind of

unmets in potato

2000-03-11 Thread Alexander N. Benner
Hi I just updated my potato system, so except of 9 Packages who got updated in the last 3 hours :-} I should have a system as it is represented by ftp.de.debian.org. I still have 4 unmet dependencies: python-base (interpret) depends on libdb1.85 libdb1.85 does not appear to be available

Re: Danger Will Robinson! Danger!

2000-03-11 Thread Randolph Chung
IMHO, leaving out 2.4 is a bad idea. there were problems with 2.0 - 2.2. there are several indications that 2.4 proper won't be out till sometime in the summer. i sure hope potato is out before then... randolph -- Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.TauSq.org/

Re: Danger Will Robinson! Danger!

2000-03-11 Thread John Travers
paul wrote: I find it hard to believe that this issue arises every time a new kernel is released. It may be useful to some to run the latest, but for most it's not an issue. IMHO including the latest kernel is only useful as a marketing gimmick, and as Debian is non-commercial we don't

Re: Danger Will Robinson! Danger!

2000-03-11 Thread Jesse Jacobsen
I've been using unstable (now frozen) since before potato, mostly because there have been features I need only offered in unstable. This started before the fantastic work began on point releases of slink. So far I don't mind, because unstable has been stable enough for me. However, as a Debian

Re: Danger Will Robinson! Danger!

2000-03-11 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 04:06:01PM -0500, Jacob Kuntz wrote: our biggest handicap is that we're always a year behind everyone else. being a year behind is suicide in any industry. The simple fact you are missing is that Debian is not an industry. Don't make the same mistakes as the industry.

Re: Danger Will Robinson! Danger!

2000-03-11 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 04:06:01PM -0500, Jacob Kuntz wrote: IMHO, leaving out 2.4 is a bad idea. there were problems with 2.0 - 2.2. there was an incompatible build of lsof, as well as some networking problems. i feel the same way about xf86 4.0 and apache 2.0. all of these releases are

man tr segfault

2000-03-11 Thread Ajit Krishnan
hi, man segfaults when formatting tr. I've tried to include all relevant information below. I'm sorry if this is a known bug. I'm running woody updated late last night from the .us mirror. Cheers, ajit bash-2.04$ man tr Reformatting tr(1), please wait... groff: troff:

Caution Will Robinson! Caution!

2000-03-11 Thread Chad Miller
On Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 04:06:01PM -0500, Jacob Kuntz wrote: what do you folks think [about 2.4.0 in potato]? Gak! I hope not. As a distro, we should be very conservative in what we put our 'good enough for you' stamp on. 2.3.$bignum/2.4.0 is feature-rich, but not tested enough to be in

Re: Danger Will Robinson! Danger!

2000-03-11 Thread Jacob Kuntz
Marcus Brinkmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 04:06:01PM -0500, Jacob Kuntz wrote: our biggest handicap is that we're always a year behind everyone else. being a year behind is suicide in any industry. The simple fact you are missing is that Debian is not an industry.

Re: Danger Will Robinson! Danger!

2000-03-11 Thread ressu
as i have always used and will be using in future tha unstable version of Debian, i don't know about the problems in outdated software, but many of my friends tend to complain that debian is outdated, and you can't get all the Neat-O software for it, after i mention that they are in unstable i can

Re: Danger Will Robinson! Danger!

2000-03-11 Thread Robert Thomson
On Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 06:30:40PM -0500, Jacob Kuntz wrote: i don't really feel that this issue pertains specifically to the kernel, or X, or apache. it has much more to do with the fact that our release practice makes it impossible to have Good Software Now. we spend all of our time fixing

Re: nasty slink - potato upgrade problem

2000-03-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 04:37:11PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: Le Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 07:06:24PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt écrivait: Trouble ahead? Please run apt-get install apt before doing the dist-upgrade. Old apt don't manage well the perl transition. This will be documented in the

Re: netstd split results in loss of functionality

2000-03-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Mar 12, 2000 at 01:13:54AM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote: On Sun, Mar 12, 2000 at 01:09:26AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Why doesn't netstd depend: on all the packages it previously included? When upgrading to potato, tftpd functionality is lost because the new netstd only suggests