On 13-Mar-00, 16:55 (CST), Alex Yukhimets [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I often find myself in the position when I use X libraries (Xt
mostly) built by myself with some changes to allow debugging of my
Xt widgets. I install new libs and headers in another directory and
-I/this/new/dir and
Hello All,
details at:
http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/57/57469.html
I submitted this bug report and labelled at is important, since it
prevented me from installing other packages (unless I put it on
hold). I have since heard other people on debian-devel say that such a
bug should be grave.
The
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 01:31:41PM +, Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS wrote:
Paul M Sargent [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
OK, Here's a question then. If Woody is unstable, which kernel is it
running?
Woody should be running 2.3 or pre-2.4. That should have been among the
first
things to change.
I
On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Steve Greenland wrote:
Why not? Have you read the compiler/linker docs? Adding -I/some/dir/inc
and -L/some/dir/lib causes those directories to be searched *before* the
default directories. I don't have an opinion about where the X stuff
should go, but the above argument
Brian May wrote:
I strongly suspect that problem is that the break cannot exit from the
while loop. As a test example:
perl -e 'while (1) { print hi\n; break; }'
this never exits the loop. Then again does break even exist in perl??
I think the fix is to replace break with last. Not
The realplayer installer package in potato is broken and useless because
Real has, in their infinite wisdom, removed version 6.x of the program from
their download sites now that they have a beta of 7.0. (Bug #60323.)
So the installer can't install anything. The package either needs to be
pulled
We are all using potato, but we are shipping slink, keep that in mind.
This is *wrong* as is wrong the claim that slink is useless. The vast
majority of the machines I manage are slinks.
You, but most of us are using potato in production systems.
Slink is a year old. It was released
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 05:47:41PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
The realplayer installer package in potato is broken and useless because
Real has, in their infinite wisdom, removed version 6.x of the program from
their download sites now that they have a beta of 7.0. (Bug #60323.)
So the
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
Package: sawmill (debian/main).
Maintainer: Mikolaj J. Habryn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
59760 sawmill: Sawmill fails to load -- missing file
/usr/lib/rep/0.11/i686-pc-linux-gnu/timers.so
This is filed against version 0.25-1. The version in potato is
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
Package: pilot-manager (debian/main).
Maintainer: Darren Stalder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
59202 pilot-manager: Method GetRecord missing in SyncPlan
The pilot-manager package is quite useful even if SyncPlan doesn't work, which
I can neither confirm nor deny.
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 11:21:58AM +1100, Brian May wrote:
Hello All,
details at:
http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/57/57469.html
I submitted this bug report and labelled at is important, since it
prevented me from installing other packages (unless I put it on
hold). I have since heard other
Is there anybody here using the Sangoma WANPIPE cards to do X.25?
Brian
( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )
---
When you love someone, you're always insecure.
Josip Rodin wrote:
But slink is practically completely adjusted for 2.2 already.
Sure, if you ignore the 12 packages that break
(http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/running-kernel-2.2)
--
see shy jo
Eray Ozkural wrote:
What happened to the package pools proposal?
It's not been implemented.
It's as if Debian developers are suffering from amnesia.
It's easy to be amnesiac about vaporware.
--
see shy jo
Moore, Paul wrote:
I disagree. The approach taken by slink was sensible. Have 2.0 as the base,
because it was QA'd to the high standards required by Debian, but include
the latest 2.2 source package for people willing to upgrade. Adding a bit
more support, in the form of including the
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 08:17:00PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
Josip Rodin wrote:
But slink is practically completely adjusted for 2.2 already.
Sure, if you ignore the 12 packages that break
(http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/running-kernel-2.2)
Most people can run 2.2 on slink without the
Ben == Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ben Next time please email me with correct version numbers and
Ben explain things a little better, other than just it still
Ben doesn't work. I've never been able to reproduce this, on any
Ben of the 4 machines that I am running the
Eray == Eray Ozkural [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Eray What happened to the package pools proposal? It's as if Debian
Eray developers are suffering from amnesia. I guess the package
Eray pools, as an idea at least, had found a significant appeal in
Eray this list. According to some form of that
Ari == Ari Makela [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ari Manoj Srivastava writes:
It is a quality of imlementation issue. If we are seriously
outmoded, we can't honestly say we are trying to be the best
distribution out there.
Ari I must say I completely fail to understand your point. Quality
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 21:54:09 -0500, Brian White wrote:
Is there anybody here using the Sangoma WANPIPE cards to do X.25?
X.25 isn't particularly popular under Linux, but people do use it. Your best
bet for information is probably the linux-x25@vger.rutgers.edu list.
HTH,
Ray
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Tevens ben
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 11:50:47AM +, Paul M Sargent wrote:
On a side note. I'm really not sure that this 'release' stuff works
on debian. Coordinating the development cycles of an infinite number
of packages is impossible. What I would like to see is an unstable
tree where all development
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 07:32:06PM -0700, Bdale Garbee wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
Package: sawmill (debian/main).
Maintainer: Mikolaj J. Habryn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
59760 sawmill: Sawmill fails to load -- missing file
/usr/lib/rep/0.11/i686-pc-linux-gnu/timers.so
severity 59202 normal
thanks
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 07:36:12PM -0700, Bdale Garbee wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
Package: pilot-manager (debian/main).
Maintainer: Darren Stalder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
59202 pilot-manager: Method GetRecord missing in SyncPlan
The
Filip Van Raemdonck writes:
And if they have this new hardware, does it mean they should not be
able to run Debian then? If that's the case, better start rewriting
some documentation...
What I ment was that it's quite easy to upgrade Slink to use 2.2
series kernel or newer XFree86. Neither
Ari Makela wrote:
series kernel or newer XFree86. Neither it's difficult to change the
kernel on the rescue floppy if the provided kernel does not support
hardware. If, Samba, for example, is not new enough, it's not
difficult to fetch the sources and compile it.
Have you ever actually tried
Joey Hess writes:
Ari Makela wrote:
series kernel or newer XFree86. Neither it's difficult to change the
kernel on the rescue floppy if the provided kernel does not support
hardware. If, Samba, for example, is not new enough, it's not
difficult to fetch the sources and compile it.
I just noticed that the quota package (that I did maintain earlier) has a
release critical bug. In fact it is only a typo. The quota maintainer seems
to be unreachable. Is it okay, if I adopt the package for the time being or
at least do a NMU?
Michael
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Michael Meskes |
Ari Makela wrote:
Yes, I've installed Slink on an exotic AST server hardware. 2.0 didn't
work. There was nothing that was hard to fix.
You're a better man than I.
--
see shy jo
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 11:02:04AM -0500, Mark Mealman wrote:
I really don't like unstable either, but I've pretty much abandoned the
stable tree as too behind the times back when slink was nearing freeze.
Here's a serious question for you: which parts are too old on slink
to perform the
Hi,
Until recently I only had a PGP key, and as
suggested by /usr/share/doc/debian-keyring/README.gz, I've
now generated a GPG one, signed it with my PGP key, and
submitted it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A couple of hours later I uploaded a package (fakeroot_0.4.4-5)
signed with my new GPG keys.
That
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 09:08:43AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
Woody should be running 2.3 or pre-2.4. That should have been among
the first things to change.
We are knee deep in a release cycle. We should not be expending our
resources on woody right now.
speak for yourself. not everyone
SOETE Joël wrote:
Dear all,
I run Debian 2.1r4 on a PC with an amd486 120 MHz and 16Mb of ram.
I also recompile last release of Ckermit. To manage installed software, I
would like make a package with this soft.
I found also package sources (.dsc, orig.tar.gz and diff.gz files) of a
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 08:17:00PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
But slink is practically completely adjusted for 2.2 already.
Sure, if you ignore the 12 packages that break
(http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/running-kernel-2.2)
I believe 12 out of ~2250 counts as practically completely.
--
From: Hamish Moffatt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 11:02:04AM -0500, Mark Mealman wrote:
I really don't like unstable either, but I've pretty much
abandoned the stable tree as too behind the times back when
slink was nearing freeze.
Here's a serious question for
Fabrizio Polacco wrote:
snipped
bash-2.04$ man tr
Reformatting tr(1), please wait...
groff: troff: Segmentation fault
||/ Name Version
+++-=-==
ii groff 1.15-3.ja.2
groff_1.15-3.ja.3 in Incoming fixes
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 01:44:09AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Not having released for nearly 18 months [...]
Which eighteen months do you refer to here?
--
enJoy -*/\*- don't even try to pronounce my first name
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 10:29:23AM +0100, Michael Meskes wrote:
I just noticed that the quota package (that I did maintain earlier) has a
release critical bug. In fact it is only a typo. The quota maintainer seems
to be unreachable. Is it okay, if I adopt the package for the time being or
at
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 10:55:31AM +0200, joost witteveen wrote:
That was all march 10, nearly 4 days ago, and fakeroot still isn't
dinstalled.
Was it rejected, or is it just stuck? If it was rejected, you have to
reupload, if it is stuck, then ssh to master, go into incoming directory,
and run
On Tuesday 14 March 2000, at 12 h 38, the keyboard of Paul Seelig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Depends on the functions one needs. But i'd like to generalize a bit:
the included *apps* are far too old. Stuff like teTeX,
Since the teTeX in slink works fine and the one is potato is broken (a bug
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 01:44:09AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Another point is that to an extent. being outmoded means that
fewer people use Debian; and, that implies that Debian no longer
meets their goals. Not having released for nearly 18 months (that's 3
generations in
Thanks a lot.
Joel
-Original Message-
From: Martin Schulze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 12:03 PM
To: SOETE Joël
Cc: Debian Development
Subject: Re: (Re)build a Debian package
SOETE Joël wrote:
Dear all,
I run Debian 2.1r4 on a PC with
Once again I am reading about the infamous debian
release cycle. I agree that having a stable distro is
important, but so is having up to date support for
critical items. For most of the packages in Debian,
not having the latest version is not a big deal as
these packages are so mature that
Calm down man. The men in the white coats will be here soon.
Branden Robinson wrote:
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 05:47:41PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
The realplayer installer package in potato is broken and useless because
Real has, in their infinite wisdom, removed version 6.x of the program
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 10:01:15PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 09:08:43AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
Woody should be running 2.3 or pre-2.4. That should have been among
the first things to change.
We are knee deep in a release cycle. We should not be expending our
libglide2-v3 (libs) depends on device3dfx-module
device3dfx-module does not appear to be available
That's Bug #57702, but it's not release critical, although it makes the
package uninstallable!
Package: libglide2-v3
Depends: libc6 (= 2.1.2), xlib6g (= 3.3.6), device3dfx-module
Recommends:
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 04:13:52PM +1100, Brian May wrote:
Ben == Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ben Next time please email me with correct version numbers and
Ben explain things a little better, other than just it still
Ben doesn't work. I've never been able to reproduce
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 11:02:04AM -0500, Mark
Mealman wrote:
I really don't like unstable either, but I've
pretty much abandoned
the stable tree as too behind the times back when
slink was nearing
freeze.
Here's a serious question for you: which parts are
too old on slink
to perform the
Source: icradius
Section: net
Priority: extra
Maintainer: Piotr Roszatycki [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Standards-Version: 3.0.1
Upstream-Source: URL:ftp://ftp.cheapnet.net/pub/icradius/
Description: RADIUS daemon with PAM and MySQL support
Copyright: GPL
Package: icradius
Architecture: any
Provides: radiusd
This bug is listed as important bug against metamail. I do wonder though if
it is important enough to warrant a removal. This bug has been reported
against mime-support originally. Since no bug in mime-support was found it
was re-assigned to metamail. The bug log says:
I've looked at the mailcap
*Ari Makela wrote:
Joey Hess writes:
Ari Makela wrote:
series kernel or newer XFree86. Neither it's difficult to change the
kernel on the rescue floppy if the provided kernel does not support
hardware. If, Samba, for example, is not new enough, it's not
difficult to fetch the
Ari Makela ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Filip Van Raemdonck writes:
And if they have this new hardware, does it mean they should not be
able to run Debian then? If that's the case, better start rewriting
some documentation...
What I ment was that it's quite easy to upgrade Slink to use
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 11:02:04AM -0500, Mark Mealman wrote:
I really don't like unstable either, but I've pretty much abandoned the
stable tree as too behind the times back when slink was nearing freeze.
Here's a serious question for you: which parts are too old on slink
to perform
Has the process for admiting new debian developers
gone on line yet?
There is a ham radio program that I would like to see
as a debian package. As I am not currently a
developer, pehaps someone else might like to look into
packaging this. Otherwise, I will do it, if I can run
your ganlet and
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 10:08:34AM -0800, Kenneth Scharf wrote:
Has the process for admiting new debian developers
gone on line yet?
There is a ham radio program that I would like to see
as a debian package. As I am not currently a
developer, pehaps someone else might like to look into
Kenneth Scharf wrote:
The program is QSSTV (the ONLY slow scan TV program
that I know of that works on Linux.) As the name
implies, it is based on QT. It now (version 3.0m)
works with both qt1.44 and 2.0.2. It is also GPL'ed.
Hope it can go in main, or at least contrib.
The URL is
From what I read on this subject, I thought that most
of the flame war was on KDE, and that it might be
possible to include KDE IF, they made certain specific
releases in their license. Since I thought that RMS
had appoved the newer QT license as a free license
(does KDE yet use Qt2, which is the
To everyone that replied to my previous email.
It appears that QSSTV is licensed under the QT public
license. It is not clear if this is the older or
newer version of the QT license. However, there would
be no GPL infection here! I have emailed the author
to get more details. The license info
Greetings all. I am in the process of engeneering a tryout of XFree 4
and I need to know this to continue. What packages come directly from
the XFree86 sources. I know the basics (xserver-*, xfree86-common), but
does anyone have a complete list?
TIA,
The configuration script for cvs_1.10.7-6 mentions that you can create
a repository with standard permissions using cvs-makerepos. Is that a
program or an option to cvs or ...?
I couldn't find anything like that.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (SCOTT FENTON) wrote:
Greetings all. I am in the process of engeneering a tryout of XFree 4
and I need to know this to continue. What packages come directly from
the XFree86 sources. I know the basics (xserver-*, xfree86-common), but
does anyone have a complete list?
Install the
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 01:23:58PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
There is a ham radio program that I would like to see
as a debian package. As I am not currently a
developer, pehaps someone else might like to look into
packaging this. Otherwise, I will do it, if I can run
your ganlet and
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 10:31:58AM -0800, Kenneth Scharf wrote:
(does KDE yet use Qt2, which is the new QT license?),
No, it doesn't in 1.x. KDE 2.x will be linked against QT2.
Is there a way to search the archives on debian-legal
for QT? Maybe some of my questions will have answers
I
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 02:23:12PM +0900, Julian Stoev wrote:
I personally don't like the Stormpkg thing. Maybe I am broken by
dselect ;) I included slink ftp in apt and got many nice programs,
which are not part of Stormix using dselect. No problem at all. But
Stormpkg may be
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 01:11:03PM +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
Since the teTeX in slink works fine and the one is potato is broken
(a bug in babel which prevents compilation of *every* document in
French), I prefer the old stuff.
Surely that should be an important bug (#42698)? In fact,
Thanks. One more question (sorry!). Is there a way to do the equivilent
of dpkg -L on an uninstalled package?
Colin Watson wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (SCOTT FENTON) wrote:
Greetings all. I am in the process of engeneering a tryout of XFree 4
and I need to know this to continue. What packages
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 04:01:51PM -0500, SCOTT FENTON wrote:
Thanks. One more question (sorry!). Is there a way to do the equivilent
of dpkg -L on an uninstalled package?
dpkg -c packagename.deb
Yes, it is documented in dpkg(8) :P
-mj
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On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 03:16:56PM +0100, Martin Waitz wrote:
compile devicd3dfx-source and you are done :)
Am I the only one where make-kpkg modules-image fails on devicd3dfx? I
have to do it manually! But maybe that's related to my non debian
2.2.14 Kernel???
Thanks,
Matthias
--
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 09:02:50AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 10:01:15PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 09:08:43AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
We are knee deep in a release cycle. We should not be expending our
resources on woody right now.
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 10:34:54PM +0100, Matthias Berse wrote:
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 03:16:56PM +0100, Martin Waitz wrote:
compile devicd3dfx-source and you are done :)
Am I the only one where make-kpkg modules-image fails on devicd3dfx? I
have to do it manually! But maybe that's related
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 08:42:07AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
this same empirical evidence has also proved that 'stable' is LESS
stable and reliable and secure than 'unstable'. the few debian boxes
which i know of that have been compromised were cracked BECAUSE they
were still running stable
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 11:02:20PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 08:42:07AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
this same empirical evidence has also proved that 'stable' is LESS
stable and reliable and secure than 'unstable'. the few debian boxes
which i know of that have been
Well, it's really sad that you like to dredge up year old context for this
thread to suit your mundane arguments, they have little context with what
I was saying.
resources on woody right now.
speak for yourself. not everyone in debian has your priorities. more to
the point, your
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 11:02:20PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 08:42:07AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
this same empirical evidence has also proved that 'stable' is LESS
stable and reliable and secure than 'unstable'. the few debian boxes
which i know of that have been
On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Dylan Paul Thurston wrote:
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 01:11:03PM +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
Since the teTeX in slink works fine and the one is potato is broken
(a bug in babel which prevents compilation of *every* document in
French), I prefer the old stuff.
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 09:18:00AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
this same empirical evidence has also proved that 'stable' is LESS
stable and reliable and secure than 'unstable'. the few debian boxes
which i know of that have been compromised were cracked BECAUSE they
were still running
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 05:27:26PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
it doesn't distract me at all. i mostly ignore it these days as it is of
little or no relevance to me.
Safe to say, that is a really self-centered attitude. One which I hope
that most developers don't have. Not a very team
John Lapeyre writes:
Maybe you find it easy. But you are relatively elite in debian
knowledge.
I'm not a beginner. I even earn my living as an unix
administrator. But I'm certainly not a unix guru.
I got a notebook two months ago. The video, sound, and pcmcia are
not supported by
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 01:11:03PM +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
Since the teTeX in slink works fine and the one is potato is broken
(a bug in babel which prevents compilation of *every* document in
French), I prefer the old stuff.
I've provided information to close #42698, here it is
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