Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors

2000-03-20 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
The /etc/Muttrc in the mutt package makes a fruit salad of mutt. Most people like it. BTW, the default key bindings in mutt are horribly broken. No key does what someone would expect. that depends on what you're used to. if you've been using elm for years then mutt's key binding

Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors

2000-03-20 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 09:04:24PM -0300, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: The /etc/Muttrc in the mutt package makes a fruit salad of mutt. Most people like it. BTW, the default key bindings in mutt are horribly broken. No key does what someone would expect. that depends on what

Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors

2000-03-20 Thread Jonathan Walther
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I agree. Mutt should by default be much more like pine. I like all my multiple folders, each containing the mail from one mailing list, and I like being able to easily navigate between them like pine allows. - --sig-- Real Programmers consider what you see is

ITP: javawrapper

2000-03-20 Thread Colin Watson
Hi, I intend to package javawrapper. Package: javawrapper Version: 1.0-1 Section: utils Priority: optional Description: A wrapper for kernel execution of Java programs javawrapper uses the binfmt_misc feature of newer Linux kernels to execute a Java class file directly simply by supplying its

Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors

2000-03-20 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 05:21:55PM -0800, Jonathan Walther wrote: I agree. Mutt should by default be much more like pine. I like all my multiple folders, each containing the mail from one mailing list, and I like being able to easily navigate between them like pine allows. huh? mutt's folder

[transcript] source package formats

2000-03-20 Thread Joey Hess
[ This is a transcript of a conversation on the Debian developer irc channel. Note that Diziet is Ian Jackson. This transcript has been edited for clarity and to remove other simulantaneous conversations. ] Overfiend since both you dpkg guys are here. Overfiend Can I ask for something? How

Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 18, 2000

2000-03-20 Thread Ingo Saitz
MoiN On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 09:46:25AM -0600, BugScan reporter wrote: Package: gnofin (debian/main) Maintainer: Torsten Landschoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 60614 LANG=de_DE gnofin does weird things [...] Package: gnucash (debian/main) Maintainer: Tyson Dowd [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] 60615

ITP: eog

2000-03-20 Thread Dan Nguyen
Hello, I will be packaging eog (Eye of Gnome). Package: eog Priority: optional Section: graphics Version: 0.2-1 Description: The Eye of Gnome graphics viewer and cataloging program Gnome is the GNU Network Object Model Enviroment . The Eye of Gnome, an image viewer program. It is meant

Re: ITP: eog

2000-03-20 Thread Adam Heath
On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Dan Nguyen wrote: Hello, I will be packaging eog (Eye of Gnome). Package: eog Priority: optional Section: graphics Version: 0.2-1 Description: The Eye of Gnome graphics viewer and cataloging program Gnome is the GNU Network Object Model Enviroment . The

Re: ITP: eog

2000-03-20 Thread Dan Nguyen
On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 12:12:45AM -0600, Adam Heath wrote: On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Dan Nguyen wrote: Hello, I will be packaging eog (Eye of Gnome). Package: eog Priority: optional Section: graphics Version: 0.2-1 Description: The Eye of Gnome graphics viewer and cataloging

Re: [transcript] source package formats

2000-03-20 Thread Adam Heath
On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, Joey Hess wrote: [ This is a transcript of a conversation on the Debian developer irc channel. Note that Diziet is Ian Jackson. This transcript has been edited for clarity and to remove other simulantaneous conversations. ] Thanks Joey for posting that. Ok, now for

Re: ITP: eog

2000-03-20 Thread Adam Heath
On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Dan Nguyen wrote: On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 12:12:45AM -0600, Adam Heath wrote: On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Dan Nguyen wrote: Description: The Eye of Gnome graphics viewer and cataloging program Gnome is the GNU Network Object Model Enviroment . The Eye of

Re: [transcript] source package formats

2000-03-20 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Adam Heath wrote: You'll note the addition of 3 fields(Format, Patches, and Tarballs), and the different files specified for the files field. The existance of a Format Having a .tarballs.tar.gz seems rather pointless, just have all the tars seperate - as does including

Re: Anyone intents to package Guppi

2000-03-20 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: Accoring to http://www.gnome.org/guppi/#get, Cesar Talon [EMAIL PROTECTED] has already packaged it. The deb is at ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/guppi/Debian Any reason why this is not included in woody? Kind regards Andreas.

Re: Apt-Problem

2000-03-20 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On 18 Mar 2000, Brian May wrote: I believe the original poster used dpkg -i to install the same copy that apt had downloaded - ie only one copy ever downloaded. Then dpkg should have failed to install it since it is a truncated file. No all

Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors

2000-03-20 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 05:21:55PM -0800, Jonathan Walther wrote: I agree. Mutt should by default be much more like pine. I like This sounds like a lot of recent threads on debian-devel -- the defaults should suite MY PREFERENCES! That's why they're defaults -- you can change them. Personally

Re: Apt-Problem

2000-03-20 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Andreas Tille wrote: output after failing to install 42 packages). I repeat: All packages were installable with dpkg -i after apt-get was unable to install That doesn't mean anything, if the file was only 1 byte short chances are it would still be entirely valid, dpkg -i

Re: Apt-Problem

2000-03-20 Thread Brian May
Jason == Jason Gunthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jason On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Andreas Tille wrote: output after failing to install 42 packages). I repeat: All packages were installable with dpkg -i after apt-get was unable to install Jason That doesn't mean anything, if

Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors

2000-03-20 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
I agree. Mutt should by default be much more like pine. I like This sounds like a lot of recent threads on debian-devel -- the defaults should suite MY PREFERENCES! That's why they're defaults -- you can change them. Personally I can't stand Mutt's default colours (green on blue? ugh!)

Re: [transcript] source package formats

2000-03-20 Thread Adam Heath
On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Adam Heath wrote: You'll note the addition of 3 fields(Format, Patches, and Tarballs), and the different files specified for the files field. The existance of a Format Having a .tarballs.tar.gz seems rather pointless,

Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors

2000-03-20 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 09:04:24PM -0300, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: Up and down arrow keys doesn't scroll a message ap down? Nope. But that's the way it is in slrn, too: backspace and enter scroll the message text, and uparrow and downarrow scroll the message list. It's good once you get used

Re: blue on black is unreadable (was Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors)

2000-03-20 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 10:31:40AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: lynx has the same problem. hyper links are blue on black, which makes it very difficult to see where you are going. fixed with: COLOR:1:cyan:black COLOR:5:brightcyan:black I wonder who made up the default lynx

Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors

2000-03-20 Thread Luca Filipozzi
On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 02:30:55AM -0600, Zed Pobre wrote: From my experiments with the above, only two things behave in a way that I would expect an unfamiliar user to find strange: asymmetry in PgUp/PgDown behaviour, and maybe UpArrow and DownArrow moving between messages instead of up

Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors

2000-03-20 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 02:30:55AM -0600, Zed Pobre wrote: Besides, configuration should always target the norma-naive user. The tough user can always edit a configfile. From my experiments with the above, only two things behave in a way that I would expect an unfamiliar user to find

Re: Apt-Problem

2000-03-20 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: That doesn't mean anything, if the file was only 1 byte short chances are it would still be entirely valid, dpkg -i would take it, apt would not due to a size and md5 mismatch. Do you expect a file of size 1 byte to install and work without problems?

Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors

2000-03-20 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For an example why I think this is really a bug with severity normal, and not a wish or feature request, see http://duckman.blub.net/~wouter/muttdefaults.png Seen. My xterms are *very*

Re: Apt-Problem

2000-03-20 Thread Andreas Tille
On 20 Mar 2000, Brian May wrote: I have to agree with Jason here, I was confused. In this case the error is generating by apt-get, in my case the error was generated by dpkg. I will take Jason's word for it that a deb file with bytes missing can still be valid... OK, I take the word as

bug postgresql-client

2000-03-20 Thread grover
I am having trouble installing postgresql in woody. I try to install the postgresql package and it asks for postgresql-client. Postgresql-client gives the following error:- Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: postgresql-client: Depends: libreadlineg2 (= 2.1-13.5) but

Re: bug postgresql-client

2000-03-20 Thread grover
Sorry, submitted where it should've gone.. Neil On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 05:57:13PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am having trouble installing postgresql in woody. I try to install the postgresql package and it asks for postgresql-client. Postgresql-client gives the following error:-

Re: Apt-Problem

2000-03-20 Thread Petr Cech
On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 10:29:35AM +0100 , Andreas Tille wrote: By the way. Shouldn't dpkg at least warn that md5 sums are wrong? It can't. dpkg doesn't know the md5sum of the .deb. Petr Cech -- Debian GNU/Linux maintainer - www.debian.{org,cz} [EMAIL

Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors

2000-03-20 Thread Colin Watson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craig Sanders) wrote: On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 09:04:24PM -0300, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: Pg-down advancing to next message? PgDn scrolls down the message, as expected. PgUp scrolls back up. the only annoying thing is that if you are already at the end of a message, then

ITP: javawrapper

2000-03-20 Thread Kristoffer . Rose
Dear Colin, I intend to package javawrapper. Package: javawrapper Version: 1.0-1 Section: utils Priority: optional Description: A wrapper for kernel execution of Java programs javawrapper uses the binfmt_misc feature of newer Linux kernels to execute a Java class file directly simply

SuSe proxy suite

2000-03-20 Thread Michael Meskes
What happened to the ITP for it? I didn't see a package yet. Michael -- Michael Meskes | Go SF 49ers! Th.-Heuss-Str. 61, D-41812 Erkelenz| Go Rhein Fire! Tel.: (+49) 2431/72651 | Use Debian GNU/Linux! Email: Michael@Fam-Meskes.De | Use

Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors

2000-03-20 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 02:30:55AM -0600, Zed Pobre wrote: On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 04:46:04AM -0300, Nicol?s Lichtmaier wrote: It's a tough issue, but there's certainly a line somewhere. And mutt does not have reasonable defaults. In the keyboard, each key has a function, I (along

Re: [transcript] source package formats

2000-03-20 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 01:51:08AM -0600, Adam Heath wrote: Comments? Suggestions? You still owe me documentation for this :-) bug#52351 on xawtv. Cheers Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [transcript] source package formats

2000-03-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Adam Heath wrote: However, it has its drawbacks, the 2 most glaring that it hides the source in subtrees, all packed up, and that it doesn't extract into pkg-ver directly. You conveniently ignored Ian's biggest con: it does not gave you a way to get to the source as it is compiles

Re: [dickey@clark.net: Re: http://cgi.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=59191]

2000-03-20 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Darren O. Benham wrote: Anyway... there is a second problem you mentioned that deserves to be addressed. Bugs should either be dealt with by the maintainer (if they're involved with mods they made or the packaging) or the bugs are supposed to be forwarded upstream

Re: Single architecture on -announce lists

2000-03-20 Thread Colin Watson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joey Hess) wrote: Ben Collins wrote: The lists already exist, they are just not used at all. Maybe it would be easier to keep just the one debian-devel-changes list to send to and write some extra procmail stuff into sending it to the write outlist. Well, we could just sign

Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors

2000-03-20 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 02:30:55AM -0600, Zed Pobre wrote: On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 04:46:04AM -0300, Nicol?s Lichtmaier wrote: Using the Space and the Backspace keys for up and down movement is absurd, it's even stupid. Backspace is back-space. Those keybindings where thought for

Re: [transcript] source package formats

2000-03-20 Thread Ben Collins
On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 11:55:27PM -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Adam Heath wrote: You'll note the addition of 3 fields(Format, Patches, and Tarballs), and the different files specified for the files field. The existance of a Format Having a .tarballs.tar.gz seems

Libc6 functions such as wprintf() (widechar/multibyte/UNICODE support)

2000-03-20 Thread Jerry Lundström
Ive been looking around the manual pages of wprintf and include files of the latest potato. Widechar/Multibyte support exist (wchar.h) but almost all the usefull function is not in the libc distribution of potato. Functions like wprintf that a vital is no where to be found and still they have

motors for Washing Machine, Electrical Fan, Refrigerator, Fume Hood, Food Blender, etc

2000-03-20 Thread Yuan Feng
Yuanfeng Motor Company is a professional motor manufacturer and are dedicated to developing and researching high efficient products. Various types of motor with different specification are for Washing Machine, Electrical Fan, Refrigerator, Fume Hood, Food Blender, etc. All motors we

Re: ITP: solfege

2000-03-20 Thread Ben Armstrong
Tom, I'm looking forward to it very much. This is on Debian Jr.'s list of programs suitable for children that we'd like to see packaged. (My children are not yet old enough to make use of it, I think, but it won't be long.) I'm a programmer and musician. I could've used something like this

Re: Debian and GNOME, partnership with Helixcode?

2000-03-20 Thread Miguel de Icaza
Hello guys, I just got forwarded a few messages from a discussion that is going on at the Debian lists, let me reply: First of all, this fragment --which started the whole debate-- is completely wrong: I assisted today to a conference by Miguel de Icaza here in Madrid, it seems he is

Re: [dickey@clark.net: Re: http://cgi.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=59191]

2000-03-20 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 03:38:34PM +0100, Santiago Vila écrivait: Perhaps we should open the Bug System to upstream maintainers by adding a flag to every package. If this flag is on, reports are automatically forwarded to a given upstream email address. I'm sure many upstream authors would ask

Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors

2000-03-20 Thread Jacob Kuntz
Hamish Moffatt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Personally I can't stand Mutt's default colours (green on blue? ugh!) but the default keybinds are fine. I have a .muttrc which I copy around between all my accounts. i bet most people do. probably a .bash{rc,_profile} and .joerc too. that's why

Re: [transcript] source package formats

2000-03-20 Thread Adam Heath
On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Adam Heath wrote: However, it has its drawbacks, the 2 most glaring that it hides the source in subtrees, all packed up, and that it doesn't extract into pkg-ver directly. You conveniently ignored Ian's biggest con: it does not

Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 18, 2000

2000-03-20 Thread Kevin Dalley
BugScan reporter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bug stamp-out list for Mar 18 09:21 (CST) Total number of release-critical bugs: 192 Number that will disappear after removing packages marked [REMOVE]: 9 Package: clisp (debian/main) Maintainer: Kevin Dalley [EMAIL PROTECTED] 46059 package

Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 18, 2000

2000-03-20 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 02:41:45AM -0800, Kevin Dalley wrote: [sth] Is it just me or did something make this message go out like 12 times? Each time it had more and more of these: MBOX-Line: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 20 13:55:55 2000 X-Envelope-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MBOX-Line: From

Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors

2000-03-20 Thread Steve Greenland
On 20-Mar-00, 01:46 (CST), Nicolás Lichtmaier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using the Space and the Backspace keys for up and down movement is absurd, it's even stupid. Backspace is back-space. Those keybindings where thought for keyboards without arrows, and those keyboards no longer exists...

Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 18, 2000

2000-03-20 Thread David Starner
On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 09:10:08PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 02:41:45AM -0800, Kevin Dalley wrote: [sth] Is it just me or did something make this message go out like 12 times? Just you. At least, I didn't get more than one copy of it, so I would guess it's something

Re: ITP: Kannel, open source WAP and SMS gateway

2000-03-20 Thread Stefan Hornburg
Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kannel is an open source WAP and SMS gateway. It's what I do for a living. I intend to make Debian package for it. See http://www.kannel.org for more. This is fine. WAP programming is on my schedule for April. As a Debian user it would be nice to

Re: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors

2000-03-20 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Mar 19, Nicolás Lichtmaier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, the default key bindings in mutt are horribly broken. No key does what someone would expect. mutt does what I expect, and I think what every former elm user expects. PINE sucks. If newbies don't have the correct expectations to use