Re: first draft aptitude howto

2000-03-29 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 02:33:43AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: (c) Copyright 2000, Bernd Eckenfels, Germany Please don't assert copyright without including a license. Actually there is no difference if the line is present or not, as long as i dont claim otherwise it is my intelectual

Encryption Builds

2000-03-29 Thread Brent Fulgham
Can anyone refresh my memory as to the legality of encryption-enabled builds of software inside the U.S. Did we (like Kernel.org) decide it was okay to host this in U.S.-based servers, or are we still recommending that members of the free world do such builds? If the answer is to not build

Re: woody mutt users, please read

2000-03-29 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Mar 28, Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to change all lists commands in your ~/.muttrc in subscribe. I have both. Do you mean I can get rid of lists altogether? You can't. If you use both commands then I suppose you know what they do and configured your system for your

Re: xterm and gnome-terminal have diferent defaults? [was: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors]

2000-03-29 Thread Franklin Belew
On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 02:57:11AM +0100, Pedro Guerreiro wrote: On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 04:46:04AM -0300, Nicol?s Lichtmaier wrote: Using the Space and the Backspace keys for up and down movement is absurd, it's even stupid. Backspace is back-space. Those keybindings where thought

Re: Idea: Debian Developer Information Center

2000-03-29 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Mon, Mar 27, 2000 at 02:58:15PM -0500, Jacob Kuntz écrivait: that's exactly the name i was going to suggest. has the author decided on a language to tame this beast in? if php, i'd love to help. No, not yet. But as it must integrate in what we already have ... WML has support for eperl. But

Re: how about a real unstable?

2000-03-29 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 02:14:39PM -0500, Elie Rosenblum wrote: On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 09:09:43AM -0800, Andrew Lenharth wrote: It is the unstable branch, lets take advantage of it and make it unstable to start out with. The sooner we can find problems and fix them, the shorter our

Re: how about a real unstable?

2000-03-29 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 01:48:01PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: This is what experimental is for, no? Unstable is for unstable Debian, not necessarily unstable software. The experimental distribution is much more appropriate for unstable upstream software. experimental is for

Re: Encryption Builds

2000-03-29 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 02:28:49PM -0800, Brent Fulgham wrote: Can anyone refresh my memory as to the legality of encryption-enabled builds of software inside the U.S. Did we (like Kernel.org) decide it was okay to host this in U.S.-based servers, or are we still recommending that members of

RE: Paradise

2000-03-29 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Please let me know what I need to do or who I need to contact. I should be on debian-devel but feel free to CC me. we would like to know what license your software is under. We only place Open Source licensed code into Debian proper. See our web site for details (you will often hear this

Re: Idea: Debian Developer Information Center

2000-03-29 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Raphael Hertzog wrote: No, not yet. But as it must integrate in what we already have ... WML has support for eperl. But I have decided of absolutely nothing and it's possible that I end without eperl and without php with a simple perl script (I don't know python but most

Re: Uninstallable packages testing

2000-03-29 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 01:20:33PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: There's a list of uninstallable packages for both woody and potato (sorted by source package) linked from there too. Stats for potato at the moment are: (number of uninstallable binary packages by arch) * sparc:45 *

Re: ITP: gnuplot-mode

2000-03-29 Thread Ryuichi Arafune
Thank you for your comment. In [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.S.G. I'll be interested in looking at it (you didn't provide a URL). http://feff.phys.washington.edu/~ravel/gnuplot/ P.S.G. I don't use gnuplot, but this looks like it would help the P.S.G.

Beta Testing

2000-03-29 Thread John and Donna Bristle
I would like to join the beta test team. I am presently a software test engineer for Ontrack Data International and do alpha test of software that is used for data recovery. I am interested in Linux and would like to help in whatever way I can. John Bristle [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Paradise

2000-03-29 Thread David Starner
On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 03:53:22PM -0600, Jeffrey Watts wrote: Hello, I'm a member of the Paradise Netrek development team. Paradise Netrek is a X based game that started as Xtrek back in 1986. It is a multiplayer, real-time, Internet game. Paradise has undergone a revival recently, and

Re: Paradise

2000-03-29 Thread Neil Hunt
Hi Jeffrey, I'm in the process of debianising the vanilla server, and a few of the clients, if you wish, I can also take care of the paradise server. Neil On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 03:53:22PM -0600, Jeffrey Watts wrote: Hello, I'm a member of the Paradise Netrek development team. Paradise

mozilla under frozen

2000-03-29 Thread Kenneth Scharf
Think I may have a bug report for Mozilla. Twice I tried to use it to download a rather large file (iso cd rom image) and after about 50-100 megs or so my computer went into a swap fit with constat disk thrashing. I was running mozilla under gnome desktop with sawmill as the window manager. I

Re: Paradise

2000-03-29 Thread Jeffrey Watts
On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Neil Hunt wrote: I'm in the process of debianising the vanilla server, and a few of the clients, if you wish, I can also take care of the paradise server. Unfortunately, this cannot be done. I have discovered that the Paradise server code has an annoying non-commercial

Re: WNPP\

2000-03-29 Thread Mike Markley
I've already got it packaged. I posted to debian-devel about it some time ago. I'm working out a couple of minor issues with the potato binary package, the slink one's up. See ftp.madhack.com/debian. I plan to post some info on the postinst problem I'm running into tomorrow, when I have better

Re: 0 days till bug horizon

2000-03-29 Thread Brian May
Richard == Richard Braakman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 10:03:33AM +1000, Brian May Richard wrote: I set the severity to important, as I feel that bbdb support is important for gnus, and also, because I think it should be easy to fix (if you

Re: 0 days till bug horizon

2000-03-29 Thread Ben Collins
Sorry, simple reply for the sake of testing out poor mail server. Ben

OT: Debian-Documentation for SelfLinux?

2000-03-29 Thread Andreas Tille
Hello, I want to help the authors of the German SelfLinux project. They are searching for German documentation of Debian and the license of it. Unfortunately I didn't looked for such stuff and I'm currently not able to do some investigation, because of short time. Could anyone possibly help

Re: how about a real unstable?

2000-03-29 Thread Petr Cech
On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 01:48:01PM -0800 , Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: This is what experimental is for, no? Unstable is for unstable Debian, not necessarily unstable software. The experimental distribution is much more appropriate for unstable upstream software. agreed with the

Re: Signing Packages.gz

2000-03-29 Thread Chris Frey
Robert Bihlmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's just the point: the security of a singly-signed Packages.gz would not be much higher than that of the ftp sites themselves. Nothing to win, here. Actually I'm not concerned right now with the security of the main debian ftp site. While that's

Re: RBL report..

2000-03-29 Thread Alexander Koch
On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 02:02:23PM -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, Alexander Koch wrote: DUL is interesting. I changed my mind on that. I rather say we use it since the amount of spam is certainly increasing the last weeks and DUL is understandable. Yes there is more

Re: RBL report..

2000-03-29 Thread Joseph Carter
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 09:17:46AM +0200, Alexander Koch wrote: Yes there is more spam, but I've been looking and I haven't seen that much (if any at all) would be blocked by DUL. I personally think the DUL is most harmless RBL and the most legitimate (bad wording probably) for use. And if

Re: Debconf LDAP (Was: Debconf question)

2000-03-29 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
Joey == Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Joey Turbo Fredriksson wrote: Ahh, I see... I was looking through the sources a little, but i couldn't find the 'main file' so to speak... :) How much is done, need any help? We need it at work, and i can do much of this

Re: Paradise

2000-03-29 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tuesday 28 March 2000, at 15 h 53, the keyboard of Jeffrey Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Paradise Netrek developers would like to work with Debian to get Paradise included in Debian GNU/Linux. Thanks for your interest in Debian and welcome here. First, you should tell what your

Re: Debconf LDAP (Was: Debconf question)

2000-03-29 Thread Joey Hess
Turbo Fredriksson wrote: Where's the design specs of the rest of the system so far? http://kitenet.net/doc/debconf/specification.html -- see shy jo

Re: debconf: how to configure non-interactive install

2000-03-29 Thread Thomas Gebhardt
Hi, Do you want to go in and change defaults in the database? Yes, that's doable, though there is no well-polished program to do it as of yet. yes, that's what I want to do. My aim is to use FAI (Fully automated installation, cf. http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/) for the installation of

MiniVend Debian package

2000-03-29 Thread Stefan Hornburg
OK, now as MV 4.03 is out, there is a Debian package available now for testing. If you have a spare system, please try it out and blame me for problems. NOTE: This is not for production use !! More infos and download: http://www.linuxia.de/minivend/mvgoesdebian.en.html Any comments will be

Re: 0 days till bug horizon

2000-03-29 Thread Richard Braakman
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 03:05:26PM +1000, Brian May wrote: How do you say this bug is important enough to be fixed for frozen? Often, for instance, there are times when a really simple bug causes a package to break seriously for some users. While the package should not get dropped if it

Re: Debconf LDAP (Was: Debconf question)

2000-03-29 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
Joey == Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Joey Turbo Fredriksson wrote: Where's the design specs of the rest of the system so far? Joey http://kitenet.net/doc/debconf/specification.html I'll have a look at it, and see what I can come up with... -- nuclear Saddam Hussein

Re: Uninstallable packages testing

2000-03-29 Thread Richard Braakman
On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 01:20:33PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: tkirc (not installable on any arch, depends on ircii, which isn't in potato or woody) ircii is now in non-us. Richard Braakman

Re: RBL report..

2000-03-29 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 11:33:41PM -0800, Joseph Carter wrote: often than not knows better. (Let pacbell.net's shoody NT mail server route MY mail? NOT LIKELY!) Have you ever had mail actually disappear through their server, or do you just distrust it because it's running on NT? Seriously?

Re: Is someone working on Jazz++ ?

2000-03-29 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Mar 24, 2000 at 08:56:15AM -0300, Eduardo Marcel Macan wrote: Hello, I noticed Jazz++ (www.jazzware.com) is now released under the GPL, is there anyone working on it? Unfortunately I don't have the time to do it, but I'd like to see it packaged. It is the best linux midi sequencer

Re: WNPP

2000-03-29 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 08:58:38AM +0200, Radovan Garabik wrote: On Mon, Mar 27, 2000 at 08:27:29PM -0500, Brian Almeida wrote: ...or maybe not. It's got cryptographic hashing algos (tiger, sha1, etc), so I probably can't package it due to wonderful US laws. Drat. Strange... I read

Re: Encryption Builds

2000-03-29 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 02:28:49PM -0800, Brent Fulgham wrote: Can anyone refresh my memory as to the legality of encryption-enabled builds of software inside the U.S. Did we (like Kernel.org) decide it was okay to host this in U.S.-based servers, or are we still recommending that members of

Re: Paradise

2000-03-29 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 03:53:22PM -0600, Jeffrey Watts wrote: Hello, I'm a member of the Paradise Netrek development team. Paradise Netrek is a X based game that started as Xtrek back in 1986. It is a multiplayer, real-time, Internet game. Paradise has undergone a revival recently, and

Re: MiniVend Debian package

2000-03-29 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 10:11:57AM +0200, Stefan Hornburg wrote: OK, now as MV 4.03 is out, there is a Debian package available now for testing. Excellent. I've long been awaiting an upgrade to the mv command. -- G. Branden Robinson| A committee is a life form with six or

Re: RBL report..

2000-03-29 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 06:56:47PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Hell, Joseph, have you ever stopped to read one of your own posts to see what you really sound like? I agree, knghtbrd, you sound too fanatical(sp?). Calm down, and perhaps people will pay more attention to what you're saying. --

Re: RBL report..

2000-03-29 Thread Joseph Carter
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 12:06:19PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: Hell, Joseph, have you ever stopped to read one of your own posts to see what you really sound like? I agree, knghtbrd, you sound too fanatical(sp?). Calm down, and perhaps people will pay more attention to what you're saying.

Re: how about a real unstable?

2000-03-29 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 08:19:18AM +0200, Petr Cech wrote: This is what experimental is for, no? Unstable is for unstable Debian, not necessarily unstable software. The experimental distribution is much more appropriate for unstable upstream software. agreed with the addition

Re: how about a real unstable?

2000-03-29 Thread Petr Cech
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 12:13:45PM +0200 , Josip Rodin wrote: grep experimental /etc/apt/sources.list, please? deb http://samosa.debian.org/debian/project/experimental/ / Petr Cech -- Debian GNU/Linux maintainer - www.debian.{org,cz} [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Is someone working on Jazz++ ?

2000-03-29 Thread Diana Galletly
On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Branden Robinson wrote: On Fri, Mar 24, 2000 at 08:56:15AM -0300, Eduardo Marcel Macan wrote: Hello, I noticed Jazz++ (www.jazzware.com) is now released under the GPL, is there anyone working on it? Unfortunately I don't have the time to do it, but I'd like to see

Re: RBL report..

2000-03-29 Thread Joseph Carter
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 06:56:47PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: often than not knows better. (Let pacbell.net's shoody NT mail server route MY mail? NOT LIKELY!) Have you ever had mail actually disappear through their server, or do you just distrust it because it's running on NT?

Re: Signing Packages.gz

2000-03-29 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: Well, it'd be nice to be able to do so, to verify that a mirror hasn't been compromised, but no, you're right. Actually I don't care that much if the mirror is compromised, if it affects only packages that I don't install. If it affects some of

Re: important vs release critical bugs

2000-03-29 Thread Brian May
Richard == Richard Braakman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard If you think a bug is particularly important, then by all Richard means do whatever you can to fix it, or call attention to Richard the bug in some other way. Severity normal does not Richard mean please ignore this

Re: MiniVend Debian package

2000-03-29 Thread Stefan Hornburg
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 10:11:57AM +0200, Stefan Hornburg wrote: OK, now as MV 4.03 is out, there is a Debian package available now for testing. Excellent. I've long been awaiting an upgrade to the mv command. Oh, don't you know that Linux is

Re: MiniVend Debian package

2000-03-29 Thread Grendel
** On Mar 29, Stefan Hornburg scribbled: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 10:11:57AM +0200, Stefan Hornburg wrote: OK, now as MV 4.03 is out, there is a Debian package available now for testing. Excellent. I've long been awaiting an upgrade to the

Re: MiniVend Debian package

2000-03-29 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 12:53:12PM +0200, Stefan Hornburg wrote: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 10:11:57AM +0200, Stefan Hornburg wrote: OK, now as MV 4.03 is out, there is a Debian package available now for testing. Excellent. I've long been

Re: ITP: manpages-da

2000-03-29 Thread Paul Slootman
On Tue 28 Mar 2000, Peter Makholm wrote: Paul Slootman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wouldn't manpages-dk be the correct name? That depends The two letter language code is da and the two letter country code is DK (making the correct locale: LC_ALL=da_DK) There shouldn't be any

Re: important vs release critical bugs

2000-03-29 Thread Richard Braakman
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 09:24:38PM +1000, Brian May wrote: That sounds good in theory, but does it work in practise? I don't think so. Last time I checked, we were fixing some 30 bugs per day. Let's not look only at the unmaintained packages. I have a number of bugs, which I consider

Re: MiniVend Debian package

2000-03-29 Thread Stefan Hornburg
Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 12:53:12PM +0200, Stefan Hornburg wrote: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 10:11:57AM +0200, Stefan Hornburg wrote: OK, now as MV 4.03 is out, there is a Debian package available now

Re: MiniVend Debian package

2000-03-29 Thread Stefan Hornburg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grendel) writes: ** On Mar 29, Stefan Hornburg scribbled: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 10:11:57AM +0200, Stefan Hornburg wrote: OK, now as MV 4.03 is out, there is a Debian package available now for testing.

Re: MiniVend Debian package

2000-03-29 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 12:53:12PM +0200, Stefan Hornburg wrote: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 10:11:57AM +0200, Stefan Hornburg wrote: OK, now as MV 4.03 is out, there is a Debian package available now for testing. Excellent. I've long been

Entering in the Official Debian's distribution

2000-03-29 Thread lorenzo . zampese
How can a programmer have the right of putting his own program on the Official Debian's Distribution ? I have heard something about the PGP key, but I haven't a clear idea. Please, is there anybody who can explain it to me ? Thank you.

Re: how about a real unstable?

2000-03-29 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 12:08:31PM +0200, Petr Cech wrote: grep experimental /etc/apt/sources.list, please? deb http://samosa.debian.org/debian/project/experimental/ / Here's a prettier one, as discussed on IRC :) deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ project/experimental/ -- Digital

Re: Entering in the Official Debian's distribution

2000-03-29 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 01:59:19PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can a programmer have the right of putting his own program on the Official Debian's Distribution ? I have heard something about the PGP key, but I haven't a clear idea. Please read the information in Debian Developer's

Re: Entering in the Official Debian's distribution

2000-03-29 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wednesday 29 March 2000, at 13 h 59, the keyboard of [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can a programmer have the right of putting his own program on the Official Debian's Distribution ? #ifdef I_WANT_TO_BE_A_DEBIAN_MAINTAINER_MYSELF Debian lesson #1

Re: Debconf LDAP (Was: Debconf question)

2000-03-29 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Turbo Fredriksson wrote: I'll have a look at it, and see what I can come up with... Be warned that I reasonably know what I would like to see there and there is already code (gconf) which implements it. I really need to check what the build and runtime-dependencies for gconf are

Re: Potato - update-alternatives (Ian Jackson) and window managers - doubt (and Slink to Potato Success)

2000-03-29 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Branden Robinson wrote: gnome-session itself does NOT provide window management services. The package also doesn't depend on a real window manager. True. I think having it masquerade as a window manager could lead to people not having a window manager installed at all. Hmm, can't

Re: MiniVend Debian package

2000-03-29 Thread Stefan Hornburg
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 12:53:12PM +0200, Stefan Hornburg wrote: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 10:11:57AM +0200, Stefan Hornburg wrote: OK, now as MV 4.03 is out, there is a Debian package available now

Re: RBL report..

2000-03-29 Thread Alexander Koch
On Wed, 29 March 2000 01:57:45 -0800, Joseph Carter wrote: I'm not the only person here who thinks so. Make Debian use all the blacklists you want. You'll find users and developers dropping like flies. If everything else fails, this is the best argument to bring up, really. Tell me why I

Re: MiniVend Debian package

2000-03-29 Thread Robert Ramiega
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 01:51:35PM +0200, Stefan Hornburg wrote: Normally linuxia.de is well connected, but I uploaded both archives to ftp://www.ecoservice.de/debian/. This at least geographically closer to Poland (I assume you come from this country). Could You please put source packages

Re: RBL report..

2000-03-29 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 01:57:45AM -0800, Joseph Carter wrote: I have read them. (I did write them after all.) One does not necessarily follow based on the other. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: RBL report..

2000-03-29 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 03:07:59AM -0800, Joseph Carter wrote: First: YOUR SPAM IS NOT MY FUCKING PROBLEM. Second: Broadband providers are not a commodity. And they're usually not cheap. Third: The difference in cost between my DSL service and any other broadband service (even with lest

Re: Encryption Builds

2000-03-29 Thread Ben Collins
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 04:46:29AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 02:28:49PM -0800, Brent Fulgham wrote: Can anyone refresh my memory as to the legality of encryption-enabled builds of software inside the U.S. Did we (like Kernel.org) decide it was okay to host this

Re: MiniVend Debian package

2000-03-29 Thread Stefan Hornburg
Robert Ramiega [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 01:51:35PM +0200, Stefan Hornburg wrote: Normally linuxia.de is well connected, but I uploaded both archives to ftp://www.ecoservice.de/debian/. This at least geographically closer to Poland (I assume you come from this

Re: first draft aptitude howto

2000-03-29 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
(I'm also a first-time aptitude user) Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (Remark: I think I would find the overloading of the '-' key confusing. Please consider using a different key for hold operations. 'h' seems intuitive but might be pressed by novices as an attempt to get help.

Re: xterm and gnome-terminal have diferent defaults? [was: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors]

2000-03-29 Thread Christian Marillat
FB == Franklin Belew [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] FB This is actually a bug in libzvt2, I have submitted a patch to libzvt2 to FB comply with debian xterm specs. Hopefully the maintainer will apply this FB and upload to potato soon I've make a more friendly patch for libzvt2. Soon in

Test

2000-03-29 Thread Maurizio Boriani
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Permissions/ownerships of /cdrom and /floppy

2000-03-29 Thread Santiago Vila
Hi. The following bug (#25847) is currently assigned to base-files: The mountpoints /cdrom and /floppy are set to g+wxs. However, I think that the g+w flag is of no use here, as when a fstab entry with 'user' option enabled is mounted, the access flags are changed and the mount point is

Re: RBL report..

2000-03-29 Thread Joseph Carter
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 01:16:11PM +, Alexander Koch wrote: btw - if you really need to find a smarthost that is working well I doubt you have to search for a long time. Mail is not just mail and I can imagine many specials for those like you that need a decent smarthost. It is just the

Re: RBL report..

2000-03-29 Thread jpb
Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 11:33:41PM -0800, Joseph Carter wrote: often than not knows better. (Let pacbell.net's shoody NT mail server route MY mail? NOT LIKELY!) Have you ever had mail actually disappear through their server, or do you just distrust it because

Re: how about a real unstable?

2000-03-29 Thread John Haggerty
I second this. I can't tell you how many times I have had to get the source to something try to get it to compile and bang my head on the computer for 10 hours trying to get it to work. Having say the newest version of blackbox would be nice as well as some of the newer kernels, the newest Xemacs

Re: Is someone working on Jazz++ ?

2000-03-29 Thread Will Lowe
I tried, but it would not build and failed in several places. Ditto. Yup. I have actually resolved most of these issues (not all), and I've been thinking about setting up a package. I actually started working on a package of the (still-alpha-quality) Gseq sequencer, but it needs some

Re: Permissions/ownerships of /cdrom and /floppy

2000-03-29 Thread Bruce Perens
Permissions on mount points don't seem to make much difference. I was able to mount a filesystem on a mount point with mode 0, and once mounted the permissions come from the mounted filesystem, not the mount point. Thanks Bruce

Re: RBL report..

2000-03-29 Thread Steve Greenland
On 29-Mar-00, 07:16 (CST), Alexander Koch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 29 March 2000 01:57:45 -0800, Joseph Carter wrote: I'm not the only person here who thinks so. Make Debian use all the blacklists you want. You'll find users and developers dropping like flies. If everything

Re: first draft aptitude howto

2000-03-29 Thread Steve Greenland
On 29-Mar-00, 09:00 (CST), Robert Bihlmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (I'm also a first-time aptitude user) Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (Remark: I think I would find the overloading of the '-' key confusing. Please consider using a different key for hold operations. 'h'

aide and packaging problems

2000-03-29 Thread Mike Markley
OK. Michael Vogt and I spoke and he's fine with me maintaining the aide package (I'm still waiting on new-maintainer, but it looks like it'll fully reopen long before the cutoff for uploading packages to woody ;). I do have one strange problem I'd like to ask about. I include in my package a

Re: how about a real unstable?

2000-03-29 Thread Juergen A. Erhard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew == Andrew Lenharth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Andrew It is the unstable branch, lets take advantage of it and make it unstable Andrew to start out with. The sooner we can find problems and fix them, the Andrew shorter

Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-03-29 Thread Branden Robinson
Mar 29 15:20:15 apocalypse sendmail[7886]: e2T8qEi03048: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=branden (1000/1000), delay=11:28:01, xdelay=00:00:21, mailer=esmtp, pri=6332789, relay=chiark.greenend.org.uk. [195.224.76.132], dsn=4.2.0, stat=Deferred: 450 Site not yet trusted, try later [Irritated] Maybe

Processed: Old and new man - clean solution possible.

2000-03-29 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: reopen 49962 = Bug#49962: Debian FSS-upgrade process: man pages Bug reopened, originator not changed. severity 49962 wishlist Bug#49962: Debian FSS-upgrade process: man pages Severity set to `wishlist'. End of message, stopping processing here.

Re: RBL report..

2000-03-29 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 12:42:14PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: A. swbell has frequent problems with their mail-servers, both inbound (POP) and outbound (SMTP). I don't know (or care) what OS they run. B. When I got my DSL line, swbell was the *only* ISP possibile in houston. That's part

Bug#49962: Old and new man pages - clean solution possible.

2000-03-29 Thread Andreas Krüger
Closing Bug 49962, Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Everything has been said, and there's no clean solution. It would be a crude hack to make (all or most of the) packages conflict with an old man-db simply because the man page moved. That'd be a crude hack indeed. But aren't

Re: RBL report..

2000-03-29 Thread Nils Jeppe
Branden, Hey, please leave me out of that ;-) But would you please provide me with a link for DUL so I can finally check out what it's all about? But the points about ORBS are still valid, no matter what DUL is. Being listed in orbs IS something you can change: Fix your server! And if you're

Re: RBL report..

2000-03-29 Thread Larry Gilbert
Rather than contribute to the flame war, I would like to ask a question. Apologies if this is a total rookie question. Why is murphy.debian.org not adding a Received: header to show where messages are originating? This information is useful when trying to track down actual spammers. Is this

What's changed in su/bash? bash: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable

2000-03-29 Thread Oliver Elphick
If I su, I then get the message bash: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable on almost every command I try. I found that `exec sh' let me do things. So it seems that something has changed in the set-up of bash or su -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of

Re: RFP: bidwatcher

2000-03-29 Thread Larry Gilbert
Hi Bdale, Since I'm the one maintaining the SourceForge version, maybe you and I should talk. :-) -- Larry Gilbert Seattle, WA, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, 26 Mar 2000, Bdale Garbee wrote: The original author has abdicated, and a fork has occurred. I'm currently using the version from

Re: RBL report..

2000-03-29 Thread Lawrence Walton
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 11:06:19PM +0200, Nils Jeppe wrote: Branden, Hey, please leave me out of that ;-) But would you please provide me with a link for DUL so I can finally check out what it's all about? But the points about ORBS are still valid, no matter what DUL is. Being listed in

Re: RBL report..

2000-03-29 Thread Alexander Koch
On Wed, 29 March 2000 12:42:14 -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: Joseph's arguments, while occasionally strident, are not foolish. I find it interesting that his opponents devolve into name calling and obscenity. You can read? Sure, you can. I tried to explain some point to him on irc but I

Re: RBL report..

2000-03-29 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 11:06:19PM +0200, Nils Jeppe wrote: Hey, please leave me out of that ;-) But would you please provide me with a link for DUL so I can finally check out what it's all about? Leave you out of what? I mailed the list, not you personally. But the points about ORBS are

no freeramdisk? - util-linux

2000-03-29 Thread Eric Delaunay
Hello, I'm attempting to write support for scsidev at boot time in conjonction with a fork of hwtools to create a new scsitools package that will provide only the scsi stuff of hwtools and compile on non-i386 Debian architectures. However, my scripts will eventually make use of freeramdisk

Re: What's changed in su/bash? bash: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable

2000-03-29 Thread Jacob Kuntz
is somebody running main(for(;;){fork();})? :) Oliver Elphick (olly@lfix.co.uk) wrote: If I su, I then get the message bash: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable on almost every command I try. I found that `exec sh' let me do things. So it seems that something has changed in the set-up

Re: RBL report..

2000-03-29 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 01:15:27PM -0800, Larry Gilbert wrote: Rather than contribute to the flame war, I would like to ask a question. Apologies if this is a total rookie question. Why is murphy.debian.org not adding a Received: header to show where messages are originating? This

Re: RBL report..

2000-03-29 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Larry Gilbert wrote: Why is murphy.debian.org not adding a Received: header to show where messages are originating? This information is useful when trying to track down actual spammers. Is this being deliberately omitted or does qmail just normally not include this

Re: RBL report..

2000-03-29 Thread Larry Gilbert
On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Branden Robinson wrote: Some MTA's -- and I don't know which ones -- apparently choke if there is more than n bytes' worth of Received: headers. So, as I understand it, these are stripped out by murphy to help make sure the list mails get to all the recipients. Maybe

Re: RBL report..

2000-03-29 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 01:21:52PM -0800, Lawrence Walton wrote: Nils: you still need a DNS named, nope, DUL doesn't care whether you have a DNS entry and a matching reverse lookup. static, yep. the DUL lists dynamic (dialup) IPs, it doesn't list static IPs. that's why it's called the MAPS

Re: first draft aptitude howto

2000-03-29 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With those two keys you usually will type 'u' and then 'f' in aptitude to reset it to its default working mode. In that mode you have a list of: If you have a packe selected, you will get information about it in the status

Re: RBL report..

2000-03-29 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 04:28:39PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 01:15:27PM -0800, Larry Gilbert wrote: Why is murphy.debian.org not adding a Received: header to show where messages are originating? This information is useful when trying to track down actual

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